Were Indian Americans the ethnicity thats swung the most R or one of the most R in this election

[OSR stands with Israel]

Just look at these numbers:

https://twitter.com/twizzyu/status/1859834666494390526

This is the place:

https://twitter.com/twizzyu/status/1860033900501958754

https://twitter.com/IndC0N/status/1854909279150416206?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwca...

https://twitter.com/_fat_ugly_rat_/status/1855821892160020559?ref_src=twsrc%5Etf...

[super6646]

OSR is having orgasms right now. I swear this has to be the 4th or 5th time I've seen this mentioned by him this week.

[OSR stands with Israel]

OSR is having orgasms right now. I swear this has to be the 4th or 5th time I've seen this mentioned by him this week.

Cause nobody else is pointing this out lol

[Vosem]

Yeah, it's actually sort of noticeable even on a county swing map (suburban areas which I stereotypically associate with high numbers of Indians seem like they had pretty big swings to Trump). Why was this the case, and why wasn't it really covered much? Is it just that Indians aren't numerous enough to get coverage?

[lfromnj]

No, first of all surrounding precincts swung far less , I drove through the area a few days ago and its lots of apartments and business owners. Basically either working class or petit bourgeoise which is the Trumpist base . The rest of Edison Indians are largely W2 tech workers or similar . Texas precincts also  include a decent number of Muslim Indians afaik .

[有爭議嘅領土 of The Figgis Agency]

Yeah, it's actually sort of noticeable even on a county swing map (suburban areas which I stereotypically associate with high numbers of Indians seem like they had pretty big swings to Trump). Why was this the case, and why wasn't it really covered much? Is it just that Indians aren't numerous enough to get coverage?

The swing seems more occupation/class based than OSR is making it sound, as lfromnj is pointing out. Indians (and Subcontinental Asians more broadly) have historically been more D than other Asians for what seem to be in-group (i.e. idpol) reasons.

[OSR stands with Israel]

No, first of all surrounding precincts swung far less , I drove through the area a few days ago and its lots of apartments and business owners. Basically either working class or petit bourgeoise which is the Trumpist base . The rest of Edison Indians are largely W2 tech workers or similar . Texas precincts also  include a decent number of Muslim Indians afaik .

except Hindus vote to the right of Indian Muslims .

Indian Muslims even in this election polled much to the left of Muslims as a whole

[पिकाचु]

Yeah, it's actually sort of noticeable even on a county swing map (suburban areas which I stereotypically associate with high numbers of Indians seem like they had pretty big swings to Trump). Why was this the case, and why wasn't it really covered much? Is it just that Indians aren't numerous enough to get coverage?

The swing seems more occupation/class based than OSR is making it sound, as lfromnj is pointing out. Indians (and Subcontinental Asians more broadly) have historically been more D than other Asians for what seem to be in-group (i.e. idpol) reasons.

Yeah, after spending 15 minutes looking at New Jersey precinct results, it does look like Harris held up in the ~70% range in the West Windsor-Plainsboro area. For context, that is where I spent a good deal of my childhood and it is affluent PMC Asian (mostly Indian these days, but it used to be more pan-Asian) ethnoburbia.

On the occupational point - Harris seems to held up surprisingly ok in Jackson Heights (mix of Bangladeshi and Indian these days with a lean towards the former) and kinda hilariously seems to have lost a lot of ground the Little Punjab of Richmond Hill, Queens so maybe Trump has some appeal to the Khalistanis?

Distressing results all around, but alas.

[kwabbit]

Yeah, it's actually sort of noticeable even on a county swing map (suburban areas which I stereotypically associate with high numbers of Indians seem like they had pretty big swings to Trump). Why was this the case, and why wasn't it really covered much? Is it just that Indians aren't numerous enough to get coverage?

The swing seems more occupation/class based than OSR is making it sound, as lfromnj is pointing out. Indians (and Subcontinental Asians more broadly) have historically been more D than other Asians for what seem to be in-group (i.e. idpol) reasons.

Yeah, after spending 15 minutes looking at New Jersey precinct results, it does look like Harris held up in the ~70% range in the West Windsor-Plainsboro area. For context, that is where I spent a good deal of my childhood and it is affluent PMC Asian (mostly Indian these days, but it used to be more pan-Asian) ethnoburbia.

On the occupational point - Harris seems to held up surprisingly ok in Jackson Heights (mix of Bangladeshi and Indian these days with a lean towards the former) and kinda hilariously seems to have lost a lot of ground the Little Punjab of Richmond Hill, Queens so maybe Trump has some appeal to the Khalistanis?

Distressing results all around, but alas.

Harris still lost significant ground in the Indian parts of Mercer and South Middlesex. Based on precinct results, it seems likely that Whites swung left in the area which counteracted the Indian swing. My precinct which is not very Indian swung left by 8 points. It appears that Indians swung about 20 points and Whites not at all (or even left) and the swing is very correlated to the balance between the two groups in a precinct.

I’m not really sure why the swing was more muted. Maybe a media market thing in Mercer, maybe even an industry/occupational element. Pharma is big and perhaps the anti-vax elements of the GOP were particularly off-putting.

[OSR stands with Israel]

No, first of all surrounding precincts swung far less , I drove through the area a few days ago and its lots of apartments and business owners. Basically either working class or petit bourgeoise which is the Trumpist base . The rest of Edison Indians are largely W2 tech workers or similar . Texas precincts also  include a decent number of Muslim Indians afaik .

https://twitter.com/SidKhurana3607/status/1866317528139710488

It's also 78% college educated

[lfromnj]

Again we need to find the Jill Stein percentage .

[#LANK]

The word thru my mom from asking around at the last Central Chesco Dems (which first of all, those people were not acting like they'd just lost an election. second of all, she had to hear some lady who retired at 46 talk about how hard it was raising 2 twins. Get those people out of the Democratic Party) is that many Indian-Americans voted for Trump because they do not want immigrants competing with their children for jobs. When my mom pointed out to her that those who will be mass deported are nowhere near the STEM jobs most Indian-American grads want, the Indian-American woman's response was "oh okay".  After all, what does American history tell us if not that nobody hates immigrants more than an immigrant who made it?

[OSR stands with Israel]

The word thru my mom from asking around at the last Central Chesco Dems (which first of all, those people were not acting like they'd just lost an election. second of all, she had to hear some lady who retired at 46 talk about how hard it was raising 2 twins. Get those people out of the Democratic Party) is that many Indian-Americans voted for Trump because they do not want immigrants competing with their children for jobs. When my mom pointed out to her that those who will be mass deported are nowhere near the STEM jobs most Indian-American grads want, the Indian-American woman's response was "oh okay".  After all, what does American history tell us if not that nobody hates immigrants more than an immigrant who made it?

It’s less the deportations and more they probably hope that he cuts the amount of H1B visas . Now whether he does that given all the tech bros who back him is another story

[#LANK]

It’s less the deportations and more they probably hope that he cuts the amount of H1B visas . Now whether he does that given all the tech bros who back him is another story

So you love Modi, claim most Indian-Americans love Modi, but hate Ds bc of H1B expansion despite Modi pushing Biden to expand H1B. H1B visas mostly benefits native-born Indians who remit money back home. Many are currently upset with the Indian gov’t not pushing even harder. I knew FYIGM is a feature in your software not a bug but Christ bro rlly only cares ab Hindu nationalism as an excuse to hate Muslims

[OSR stands with Israel]

It’s less the deportations and more they probably hope that he cuts the amount of H1B visas . Now whether he does that given all the tech bros who back him is another story

So you love Modi, claim most Indian-Americans love Modi, but hate Ds bc of H1B expansion despite Modi pushing Biden to expand H1B. H1B visas mostly benefits native-born Indians who remit money back home. Many are currently upset with the Indian gov’t not pushing even harder. I knew FYIGM is a feature in your software not a bug but Christ bro rlly only cares ab Hindu nationalism as an excuse to hate Muslims

I like Modi cause I’m Right Wing and the opposition there is truly godawful . It was also the Indian left wing whose policies wrecked India and the INC has reembraced that legacy so yes backing Modi there is a no brainer . I do not back him , because I want to see India become the number 1 power lmao . I do not want any nation to ever replace the U.S. in that and frankly I don’t trust any other nation to have the role that we have as well .

So just cause Modi supports more H1B here doesn’t mean I have to. I’d rather us support lifting the per country cap when it comes to green cards but then reducing the number of H1Bs to make up for it .

I also don’t hate Ds cause of their H1B policy lmao . I hate them more for their economic policies , their social policies and on immigration their policy on illegal immigration/refugees .

[Reactionary Libertarian]

It’s less the deportations and more they probably hope that he cuts the amount of H1B visas . Now whether he does that given all the tech bros who back him is another story

So you love Modi, claim most Indian-Americans love Modi, but hate Ds bc of H1B expansion despite Modi pushing Biden to expand H1B. H1B visas mostly benefits native-born Indians who remit money back home. Many are currently upset with the Indian gov’t not pushing even harder. I knew FYIGM is a feature in your software not a bug but Christ bro rlly only cares ab Hindu nationalism as an excuse to hate Muslims

I like Modi cause I’m Right Wing and the opposition there is truly godawful . It was also the Indian left wing whose policies wrecked India and the INC has reembraced that legacy so yes backing Modi there is a no brainer . I do not back him , because I want to see India become the number 1 power lmao . I do not want any nation to ever replace the U.S. in that and frankly I don’t trust any other nation to have the role that we have as well .

So just cause Modi supports more H1B here doesn’t mean I have to. I’d rather us support lifting the per country cap when it comes to green cards but then reducing the number of H1Bs to make up for it .

I also don’t hate Ds cause of their H1B policy lmao . I hate them more for their economic policies , their social policies and on immigration their policy on illegal immigration/refugees .

The alternative to Modi is the socialist policies that have held back India for decades. He is a flawed but superior choice.

[OSR stands with Israel]

It’s less the deportations and more they probably hope that he cuts the amount of H1B visas . Now whether he does that given all the tech bros who back him is another story

So you love Modi, claim most Indian-Americans love Modi, but hate Ds bc of H1B expansion despite Modi pushing Biden to expand H1B. H1B visas mostly benefits native-born Indians who remit money back home. Many are currently upset with the Indian gov’t not pushing even harder. I knew FYIGM is a feature in your software not a bug but Christ bro rlly only cares ab Hindu nationalism as an excuse to hate Muslims

I like Modi cause I’m Right Wing and the opposition there is truly godawful . It was also the Indian left wing whose policies wrecked India and the INC has reembraced that legacy so yes backing Modi there is a no brainer . I do not back him , because I want to see India become the number 1 power lmao . I do not want any nation to ever replace the U.S. in that and frankly I don’t trust any other nation to have the role that we have as well .

So just cause Modi supports more H1B here doesn’t mean I have to. I’d rather us support lifting the per country cap when it comes to green cards but then reducing the number of H1Bs to make up for it .

I also don’t hate Ds cause of their H1B policy lmao . I hate them more for their economic policies , their social policies and on immigration their policy on illegal immigration/refugees .

The alternative to Modi is the socialist policies that have held back India for decades. He is a flawed but superior choice.

Yes that is basically the case . Anyway it also is inaccurate to even say Modi is the reason for this trend either given that :

- pre election polling showed younger/American born Indian-Americans trending more right than older/naturalized Indian-Americans and the latter definitely cares more about Indian politics than the former

- Trump made huge gains for example in Tamil neighborhoods, which aren’t exactly the type of people you’d expect to be fans of Modi


Now some may argue that precient data shows he probably made major gains with older Indian American voters but even then I’d argue the Modi impact was more indirect . Basically pro Modi TV channels have adopted much of the same buzz words as right wing media does here (railing against wokeness/liberal globalists for example) and also social media has made it easier for them to realize that the Dems don’t really represent their views as much as they thought.

[有爭議嘅領土 of The Figgis Agency]

Anyway it also is inaccurate to even say Modi is the reason for this trend either given that :

- pre election polling showed younger/American born Indian-Americans trending more right than older/naturalized Indian-Americans and the latter definitely cares more about Indian politics than the former

- Trump made huge gains for example in Tamil neighborhoods, which aren’t exactly the type of people you’d expect to be fans of Modi

These two points are what I found shocking about the Carnegie Mellon poll of Indian Americans you posted- not that fact that there was a big R shift among Indians in and of itself. What are some examples of Tamil neighborhoods where Trump made huge gains though?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Anyway it also is inaccurate to even say Modi is the reason for this trend either given that :

- pre election polling showed younger/American born Indian-Americans trending more right than older/naturalized Indian-Americans and the latter definitely cares more about Indian politics than the former

- Trump made huge gains for example in Tamil neighborhoods, which aren’t exactly the type of people you’d expect to be fans of Modi

These two points are what I found shocking about the Carnegie Mellon poll of Indian Americans you posted- not that fact that there was a big R shift among Indians in and of itself. What are some examples of Tamil neighborhoods where Trump made huge gains though?

My bad , that neighborhood is Telugu not Tamil . Anyway the point stands as they aren’t usually BJP types (though Modi made gains in Telengana this time , so it’s not true as it used to be).

https://twitter.com/SidKhurana3607/status/1866322771455971506


Also the local gop put up ads there in Telugu and Tamil


https://twitter.com/fladvor1/status/1866324626097193458

[nclib]

I think Hispanics (or a subset of Hispanics) may have swung R by more than Asian Indians.

But this thread is ironic because Kamala is half Indian.

[TDAS04]

Trump likely overperformed quite a bit among Pakistani-Americans as well, for…um…reasons.

[Vosem]

Trump likely overperformed quite a bit among Pakistani-Americans as well, for…um…reasons.

Is it because of people shipping Donald Trump/Imran Khan as a couple?

[Chief Justice PiT]

I think Hispanics (or a subset of Hispanics) may have swung R by more than Asian Indians.

But this thread is ironic because Kamala is half Indian.

     Timescale is a factor, because a lot of Hispanic areas started swinging towards Trump in 2020. Starr County, TX went from Hillary+60 to Biden+5 to Trump+16 this year. Indians beat RGV Latinos in 2020 -> 2024 swing, but probably not 2016 -> 2024.

[Tekken_Guy]

I wonder if there’s a Vivek effect.