AZ Senate- What if Gallego ran a further left campaign?
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Question: Who would have won Az Senate if Gallego didn't shift towards the center like he did in reality and ran on his actual voting record?
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« on: November 28, 2024, 10:40:56 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2024, 02:07:18 PM »

Still Gallego.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2024, 02:10:37 PM »

The Green candidate did awfully well, I think he would've improved.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2024, 03:16:03 PM »

Gallego
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2024, 06:40:25 PM »

AZ hates Lake way too much Gallego would have still won.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2024, 07:35:38 PM »

Lake overperformed expectations and almost won. She absolutely would have if Gallego ran as a progressive, which is an unelectable position in swing areas most of the time. Even as it is right now, Sinema was almost vindicated.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2024, 11:51:44 PM »

If you ask this forum ‘how would X have done if they had run further left’, the answer will universally be ‘better’.

In reality, the answer is almost always ‘worse’.

Given Gallego barely won, it’s pretty clear he would’ve been a goner if he had run much to the left of where he did.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2024, 12:10:16 AM »

Honestly one thing myself from a year ago would be kind of surprised by is how Gallego was effectively able to run as a moderate despite the whole Kyrsten Sinema situation I always thought Republicans would effectively find a way to capitalize on "Kyrsten Sinema wasn't extreme enough for Democrats so they replaced her", effectively Gallego as far-left, but it just never happened.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2024, 12:12:28 AM »
« Edited: November 29, 2024, 12:18:49 AM by Roll Roons »

Honestly one thing myself from a year ago would be kind of surprised by is how Gallego was effectively able to run as a moderate despite the whole Kyrsten Sinema situation I always thought Republicans would effectively find a way to capitalize on "Kyrsten Sinema wasn't extreme enough for Democrats so they replaced her", effectively Gallego as far-left, but it just never happened.

I think Republicans basically soft-triaged this race when it became clear that Lake would be the nominee. And I think that decision was just as much about Senate Republicans not wanting her as a colleague as it was about her being electorally weak, which is also probably why Masters didn't get a lot of money.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2024, 12:53:30 AM »

Honestly one thing myself from a year ago would be kind of surprised by is how Gallego was effectively able to run as a moderate despite the whole Kyrsten Sinema situation I always thought Republicans would effectively find a way to capitalize on "Kyrsten Sinema wasn't extreme enough for Democrats so they replaced her", effectively Gallego as far-left, but it just never happened.

I think Republicans basically soft-triaged this race when it became clear that Lake would be the nominee. And I think that decision was just as much about Senate Republicans not wanting her as a colleague as it was about her being electorally weak, which is also probably why Masters didn't get a lot of money.
It's like Daines and the NRSC just decided that blocking out Kari Lake from the nomination would lead to lots of headaches.

They could have convinced a stronger GOP nominee to get in (not Lamb) like KTR, Kimberly Yee, or Juan Ciscomani, and gotten Trump to endorse against her. Trump doesn't even like her that much anymore.

They just decided to let her be the nominee and figured she would lose and that would be the end of it. It doesn't even seem like MAGA likes her that much.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2024, 12:56:37 AM »

Lake overperformed expectations and almost won. She absolutely would have if Gallego ran as a progressive, which is an unelectable position in swing areas most of the time. Even as it is right now, Sinema was almost vindicated.

Kyrsten Sinema was not almost vindicated and she almost definitely would’ve lost. The Green Party candidate would’ve gotten 5% or more, and I’m not sure Sinema would’ve won as many Trump voters as Gallego did. Elections are about vibes and a hispanic Marine is going to win more Trump voters than a lady that dyes her hair weird colors and wears hooker boots on the Senate floor.
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2024, 08:20:01 AM »

Lake overperformed expectations and almost won. She absolutely would have if Gallego ran as a progressive, which is an unelectable position in swing areas most of the time. Even as it is right now, Sinema was almost vindicated.

Lake almost certainly did not overperform expectations, so much as Trump won Arizona by a much large than expected margin. There is basically zero evidence for your Sinema cheerleading.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2024, 09:56:42 AM »

Given that Kari Lake is electoral poison in Arizona Gallego still wins, albiet by a slightly smaller margin
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2024, 12:26:50 PM »

Lake overperformed expectations and almost won. She absolutely would have if Gallego ran as a progressive, which is an unelectable position in swing areas most of the time. Even as it is right now, Sinema was almost vindicated.

Kyrsten Sinema was not almost vindicated and she almost definitely would’ve lost. The Green Party candidate would’ve gotten 5% or more, and I’m not sure Sinema would’ve won as many Trump voters as Gallego did. Elections are about vibes and a hispanic Marine is going to win more Trump voters than a lady that dyes her hair weird colors and wears hooker boots on the Senate floor.

She actually had decent approvals among Republicans and it was well known by this point that she was a different kind of Democrat. She would’ve gotten a ton of crossover votes.
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2024, 03:18:22 PM »

Lake overperformed expectations and almost won. She absolutely would have if Gallego ran as a progressive, which is an unelectable position in swing areas most of the time. Even as it is right now, Sinema was almost vindicated.

me when i purposefully spread misinformation over the internet
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2024, 04:08:23 PM »

Lake overperformed expectations and almost won. She absolutely would have if Gallego ran as a progressive, which is an unelectable position in swing areas most of the time. Even as it is right now, Sinema was almost vindicated.

me when i purposefully spread misinformation over the internet

Name some progressives who haven’t underperformed recently, I’ll wait
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2024, 05:30:01 PM »

Lake overperformed expectations and almost won. She absolutely would have if Gallego ran as a progressive, which is an unelectable position in swing areas most of the time. Even as it is right now, Sinema was almost vindicated.

me when i purposefully spread misinformation over the internet

Name some progressives who haven’t underperformed recently, I’ll wait

Sherrod Brown, massive overperformance actually.

Tammy Baldwin, great performance.
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