Have you ever seen a swing distribution like this before?
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Averroës
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« on: November 23, 2024, 08:33:57 PM »

From the NYT's recent summary:


Harris's resilience in less Democratic places makes sense. But, as with the county map, it's as if Trump's gains have almost nothing to do with the existing coalitions. He somehow found new voters in almost every geography. There aren't many social statistics like that in a country as big and diverse as the USA. 
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2024, 09:02:58 PM »

I still think one of the most shocking aspects of this election is how close to universal swing it was. I would have assumed that in a Trump + 1.5% environment we would still see some noticeable shifts left and more places that lurch like 10%+ right. Like compare this swing map to the 2016-->2020 swing map which was more dynamic, and you saw a lot of larger swings in both directions.

To me, the relative uniformity of the swing is this loss was less about any specific issues that Democrats had with individual Demographics, but moreso a problem of inflation and social media which are more universal phenomenon. Since 2020, Conservatives have seemed far more effective at leveraging social media, and I think the right did a good job at bringing in a lot of people by appealing to one wedge issue that for whatever reason hit them whether it was vaccine skepticism, anti-trans stuff, ect.

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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2024, 11:01:58 PM »

Why we acting like 2008 didn't exist?
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2024, 11:23:03 PM »


I don't think this is true? The Deep South and Appalachia were still trending hard towards the GOP at the time.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2024, 11:27:46 PM »

I still think one of the most shocking aspects of this election is how close to universal swing it was. I would have assumed that in a Trump + 1.5% environment we would still see some noticeable shifts left and more places that lurch like 10%+ right. Like compare this swing map to the 2016-->2020 swing map which was more dynamic, and you saw a lot of larger swings in both directions.

To me, the relative uniformity of the swing is this loss was less about any specific issues that Democrats had with individual Demographics, but moreso a problem of inflation and social media which are more universal phenomenon. Since 2020, Conservatives have seemed far more effective at leveraging social media, and I think the right did a good job at bringing in a lot of people by appealing to one wedge issue that for whatever reason hit them whether it was vaccine skepticism, anti-trans stuff, ect.



Harris' campaign seemed to have what looked like a decent foothold on social media, so that probably helped contribute to her appearing to have a stronger position to be elected.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2024, 11:41:31 PM »

This does suggest it was primarily a 'referendum' election rather than a 'choice' election, which wouldn't have been obvious beforehand.
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