How long would Ron Kind last in congress had he never retired?
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Question: How long would Ron Kind have lasted in congress had he never retired?
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He would survive both 2022 and 2024
 
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He would survive 2022 but not 2024
 
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He would go down in 2022
 
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« on: November 23, 2024, 02:01:14 PM »

How long would Ron Kind last in congress had he never retired?
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2024, 02:36:24 PM »

He would win both, Van Orden is a terrible candidate and his seat should be a top Dem target in 2026
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2024, 04:30:14 PM »

He'd hold the seat in both 2022 and 2024. He shouldn't have retired, or instead ran against Johnson.
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2024, 06:07:28 PM »

He would win both, Van Orden is a terrible candidate and his seat should be a top Dem target in 2026

Yeah van Orden had a weak performance this year too, winning by 3 points in a district Trump likely won by about 7ish. He is like Wisconsin's MMM.

I think Kind would pull through in both 2022 AND 2024 if the GOP nominated van Orden both times. But that's a big if - I'm thinking they may move on to another candidate in 2024 if van Orden were to lose twice. (Depending on who they nominated, Kind may well go down in 2024.) Then again, Iowa Republicans gave MMM a fourth go at it, so idk.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2024, 06:09:09 PM »

He'd hold the seat in both 2022 and 2024. He shouldn't have retired, or instead ran against Johnson.

I agree with the latter. Given that we came within a point of taking Johnson out with a pretty mediocre and underfunded candidate, really seems like Kind (and WI Dems) stood on business.

Same could be said of WI Repubs this year, tbh - who even was Hovde? I bet they're kicking themselves right now for not nominating a less crappy candidate (Gallagher or Steil would have toppled Baldwin).
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2024, 09:51:25 AM »

He would've won both, and he would've beat Johnson for Senate in 2022. I understand why he thought he likely would've lost in 2022, though.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2024, 02:04:28 PM »

He beats Van Orden in 2022. Think the R's run Sen.Pat Testin of Stevens Point in 2024.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2024, 05:48:39 PM »

Loses in 2022

He'd hold the seat in both 2022 and 2024. He shouldn't have retired, or instead ran against Johnson.
Johnson would have beaten Kind by more than he beat Barnes.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2024, 11:38:51 PM »

He's gone in 2024, after holding on in 2022.

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2024, 12:48:00 AM »

Just dawned on me that Van Orden won by both a smaller percentage and raw vote margin than he did in 2022. Don’t see how his seat doesn’t start as a tossup for ‘26.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2024, 01:16:39 AM »

He'd have been the last of his Kind.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2024, 12:21:27 PM »

Just dawned on me that Van Orden won by both a smaller percentage and raw vote margin than he did in 2022. Don’t see how his seat doesn’t start as a tossup for ‘26.

The 3rd is the epitome of a place loaded with Trump only voters. Also,the district still has a really strong Democratic base in Eau Claire and LaCrosse. Plus smaller college towns(River Falls,Menomonie,Platteville,Stevens Point.
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2024, 12:41:29 PM »

Just dawned on me that Van Orden won by both a smaller percentage and raw vote margin than he did in 2022. Don’t see how his seat doesn’t start as a tossup for ‘26.

The 3rd is the epitome of a place loaded with Trump only voters. Also,the district still has a really strong Democratic base in Eau Claire and LaCrosse. Plus smaller college towns(River Falls,Menomonie,Platteville,Stevens Point.
Interestingly people said in 2020 that the colleges being remote made the district swing R . Turns out Trump actually won the La Crosse campus !
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2024, 06:34:33 PM »

Cooke,like Brad Pfaff,was badly outspent. That was a big difference. They actually wasted money trying to beat Steil in CD 1.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2024, 01:01:08 PM »

He'd still be in Congress.
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2024, 08:50:26 AM »

Would have won in both 2022 and 2024 if he had stayed in the House, would have beaten Ron Johnson in 2022 if he had run for Senate.
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