Why would Stefanik give up House leadership for UN Ambassador?
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« on: November 22, 2024, 07:44:43 PM »

Stefanik was young (only 40) but already high in the leadership team. If she stays, she could potentially compete for speakership. UN Ambassador was largely ceremonial. Say she serves four years, what's next? She won't win NY governorship or senator. Her seat is safe R and will be taken, and it's very unlikely for her to primary her successor.

While she can claim "FP experiences" like Haley did, she was very far from ready for a presidential run.
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2024, 08:52:01 PM »

Easiest path to President of her options. Not that it’s likely. Her odds were zero coming from the House, so it’s better than zero.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2024, 12:53:47 AM »

The GOP House leadership pipeline is an utter sh**show since 2023, and being UN Ambassador gives her more airtime and name recognition. Tha'ts how Nikki Haley became a household name through that role. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2024, 12:57:18 AM »

The GOP House leadership pipeline is an utter sh**show since 2023, and being UN Ambassador gives her more airtime and name recognition. Tha'ts how Nikki Haley became a household name through that role. 
I'd argue she became a household name during the confederate flag controversy in 2015.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2024, 01:07:20 AM »

I wonder if there is any chance Vance picks her as a running mate.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2024, 01:14:05 AM »

I wonder if there is any chance Vance picks her as a running mate.
I could see that.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2024, 01:37:01 AM »

I wonder if there is any chance Vance picks her as a running mate.

Why would Vance pick a neocon who sponsored the Equality Act? Just because she’s a woman?
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2024, 02:18:15 AM »

I wonder if there is any chance Vance picks her as a running mate.

Why would Vance pick a neocon who sponsored the Equality Act? Just because she’s a woman?
To try and shore up old school Republicans and appeal to social moderates.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2024, 03:42:59 AM »

I wonder if there is any chance Vance picks her as a running mate.

Why would Vance pick a neocon who sponsored the Equality Act? Just because she’s a woman?
To try and shore up old school Republicans and appeal to social moderates.

The fact that Vance was on a winning ticket with Trump shows that there is no need to "shore up old school Republicans". Any "Republican" who needs shoring up is voting for the Democrat no matter what, especially considering Vance doesn't carry the same baggage as Trump.
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2024, 07:45:44 AM »

Hoping for the VP slot in 2028 or Secretary of State if the Republican nominee wins.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2024, 11:41:08 AM »

The GOP House leadership pipeline is an utter sh**show since 2023, and being UN Ambassador gives her more airtime and name recognition. Tha'ts how Nikki Haley became a household name through that role. 
I'd argue she became a household name during the confederate flag controversy in 2015.

Yeah, that's when. She was big in the news. She's been probably my dad's favorite politician since then, and still is. I remember him being all excited in the family group chat when she announced her 2024 campaign, and I'm sure he's already all-in on Haley 2028. He's very impressed that as a minority woman she won election to the governorship of South Carolina, "the most Confederate of Confederate states." He was also very supportive of her removal of the Confederate flag, which was a pleasant surprise (he's a conservative white southerner, so there was no guarantee).

You know, now that I think about it, considering its history and overall politics, South Carolina has had some surprisingly decent governors.
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2024, 12:50:06 PM »

The GOP House leadership pipeline is an utter sh**show since 2023, and being UN Ambassador gives her more airtime and name recognition. Tha'ts how Nikki Haley became a household name through that role. 
I'd argue she became a household name during the confederate flag controversy in 2015.

Yeah, that's when. She was big in the news. She's been probably my dad's favorite politician since then, and still is. I remember him being all excited in the family group chat when she announced her 2024 campaign, and I'm sure he's already all-in on Haley 2028. He's very impressed that as a minority woman she won election to the governorship of South Carolina, "the most Confederate of Confederate states." He was also very supportive of her removal of the Confederate flag, which was a pleasant surprise (he's a conservative white southerner, so there was no guarantee).

You know, now that I think about it, considering its history and overall politics, South Carolina has had some surprisingly decent governors.

Yeah, even McMaster has been… well, not *good* but considering what we’ve seen in less R states like FL and TX, not the worst…
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2024, 01:16:10 PM »

I wonder if there is any chance Vance picks her as a running mate.

Why would Vance pick a neocon who sponsored the Equality Act? Just because she’s a woman?
To try and shore up old school Republicans and appeal to social moderates.

The fact that Vance was on a winning ticket with Trump shows that there is no need to "shore up old school Republicans". Any "Republican" who needs shoring up is voting for the Democrat no matter what, especially considering Vance doesn't carry the same baggage as Trump.

This is the same reductive thinking that got Biden/Kamala into trouble this year.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2024, 01:22:31 PM »

It's been mentioned before that she is both a very ambitious politician - see her morphing to fit where the party is going at any time - while also lacking any viable outlets. It's a double whammy being a Republican from New York, and specifically Upstate New York. New York is still too Dem, and even though every now and again there will be the odd statewide opportunity, suburban downstate tend to monopolize that potential. It's tough coming straight from the base when the base is powerless electorally.

The alternative is House leadership. Beyond recent events dissuading many, many, more people than her from seeing that as a goal worth pursuing, there's also the problem of getting there in the first place. Upstate New York is again a ways away from the center of the caucus in more ways than geographic.

So the only outlet is the national scene. In this case she'll take what she can get. Who knows what a few years bring. She's in a similar spot to Buttigieg in 2020, willing to risk a distant dead end to get away from one more closer.
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2024, 05:35:41 PM »

It's been mentioned before that she is both a very ambitious politician - see her morphing to fit where the party is going at any time - while also lacking any viable outlets. It's a double whammy being a Republican from New York, and specifically Upstate New York. New York is still too Dem, and even though every now and again there will be the odd statewide opportunity, suburban downstate tend to monopolize that potential. It's tough coming straight from the base when the base is powerless electorally.

The alternative is House leadership. Beyond recent events dissuading many, many, more people than her from seeing that as a goal worth pursuing, there's also the problem of getting there in the first place. Upstate New York is again a ways away from the center of the caucus in more ways than geographic.

So the only outlet is the national scene. In this case she'll take what she can get. Who knows what a few years bring. She's in a similar spot to Buttigieg in 2020, willing to risk a distant dead end to get away from one more closer.
Buttigieg was in much tougher position than her. At least she could somehow get the spotlight as the House leader and climb the ladder. Buttigieg basically has no other choice.

I think House leadership is more about status within the party and not so correlated with district. Johnson, McCarthy, Ryan, etc came from vastly different districts.

I am suspicious whether UNA can get her more media exposure. And if she cannot get VP or SOS position in the next R admin (very tough fight), UNA is career ending.
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2024, 05:43:02 PM »

I don't think she ever saw House leadership as anything more than a bridge to something else, as effective as she was at getting her image out there while also bringing home enough pork to get reelected.
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2024, 06:00:12 PM »

To stay in Trump's good books. Because that is more politically valuable than a position in a ed up House GOP that never seems to be able to cobble together a coherent majority anyway.

I wonder if there is any chance Vance picks her as a running mate.

Why would Vance pick a neocon who sponsored the Equality Act? Just because she’s a woman?

Because I think, for those very reasons, she would have (or at least be perceived to have) some appeal with moderate suburban women. Y'know, the same people that Vance called "childless cat ladies" and is despised by. She would provide a good balance to Vance for that very reason.

I honestly thought Stefanik would've been a good choice for Trump even this year. Definitely the best female choice (Haley is overrated af and was just not going to happen after her repeated pivots).
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