Trump is currently up 1.7% percent, will his margin decrease to under 1.5%?

[Progressive Pessimist]

A majority of voters didn't vote for Trump for the third time in a row. It's one of the only positive things from the results of the Presidential race.

That actually makes me angrier. It's those soft-supporters of his I hold in the mkst contempt. At least his cultish base are genuine and ride-or-die.

How dare people hate both sides that are objectively bad.

But they're still backing a side...

[Pericles]

It doesn't matter. Trump won every swing state, got a trifecta, had every state swing to him from 2020, and didn't lose a single county that he won in 2020. He also won the popular vote, second time for a Republican in the last 35 years, and got a higher vote share than HRC in 2016.

It's objectively a mandate.

It's also objectively a smaller mandate than Biden 2020.

[jaichind]

I think a "mandate" means that there is solid public backing for you to implement your political agenda. I don't even think that is close to being the case here. Trump probably got less than 50% of the overall vote and there is no indication that his actual political platform has much public support outside of a vague idea that there needs to be more control with immigration. People have no idea what Trumps tariffs would result in, for instance.

Clinton won 43% of the vote in 1992

[Alan Simpson]

Last night on Fox News, Brit Hume instructed Trump that he only has a mandate with respect to deportations.   The dismantling of the federal instrumentality has yet to be approved by the electorate. 

[SN2903]

People got tired of him in 2020. They will be even more tired of him in 2 and 4 years.

You wish. There won't be obstruction like the first term and people will see the results of what he gets to implement. Trump was undermined by his own party constantly on top of the construct obstruction from a united Dem caucus. The Dems will be a lot more divided this time.

[New World Man]

People got tired of him in 2020. They will be even more tired of him in 2 and 4 years.

You wish. There won't be obstruction like the first term and people will see the results of what he gets to implement.

Nah. You wish. Congress is likely to make some drastic cuts to food stamps,healthcare,the safety net)at the expense of tax cuts. As for obstruction,Trump was most hated when he had both houses of congress and they broke sh**t.

[SN2903]

People got tired of him in 2020. They will be even more tired of him in 2 and 4 years.

You wish. There won't be obstruction like the first term and people will see the results of what he gets to implement.

Nah. You wish. Congress is likely to make some drastic cuts to food stamps,healthcare,the safety net)at the expense of tax cuts. As for obstruction,Trump was most hated when he had both houses of congress and they broke sh**t.

  Cope harder. Will be a long 12 years for you till Dems win again.

[SN2903]

Obama in 2008 was a “mandate”. Every election since has been very close by historical standards.

This is at least a consistent position.

2008 was the only landslide of my lifetime.

But this election goes into the 1996, 2004, 2012 range in my opinion of being a "mandate" (solid win) but not a landslide.

I think a "mandate" means that there is solid public backing for you to implement your political agenda. I don't even think that is close to being the case here. Trump probably got less than 50% of the overall vote and there is no indication that his actual political platform has much public support outside of a vague idea that there needs to be more control with immigration. People have no idea what Trumps tariffs would result in, for instance.

Clinton didn't get 50% either time either and Trump outperformed his 1996 margin. You guys need to to actually look at what your party stands for and believes in, but that would actually take some introspection. Dems have none of that. At least Trump offered something different and turned the GOP in a more populist direction and it worked. He's gotten more popular slowly for 10 years now.

[LBJer]

It doesn't matter. Trump won every swing state, got a trifecta, had every state swing to him from 2020, and didn't lose a single county that he won in 2020. He also won the popular vote, second time for a Republican in the last 35 years, and got a higher vote share than HRC in 2016.

It's objectively a mandate.

If this is a "mandate," then what did Reagan have after the 1984 election?

[Arizona Iced Tea]

"Trump didn't get 50%" is the new "Trump didn't win the popular vote" isn't it.

Democrats a month ago -> "This election is a referendum on Trump"
Trump wins the PV and goes 7/7 in the battlegrounds -> "Trump doesn't have a mandate he won because of egg prices!"

Like you know it was a decisive win, when all his opponents can celebrate was that he fell 0.2% short of a majority of the votes. No swing state win, no improvement in a single state, not even a mere county flip!!!

[Pericles]

"Trump didn't get 50%" is the new "Trump didn't win the popular vote" isn't it.

Democrats a month ago -> "This election is a referendum on Trump"
Trump wins the PV and goes 7/7 in the battlegrounds -> "Trump doesn't have a mandate he won because of egg prices!"

Like you know it was a decisive win, when all his opponents can celebrate was that he fell 0.2% short of a majority of the votes. No swing state win, no improvement in a single state, not even a mere county flip!!!

It was a clear and legitimate win, but it also was obviously a close election.

It also was largely a negative vote on the Biden administration, which doesn't change the result but it should be a practical lesson to Republicans not to take future elections for granted.

[Skill and Chance]

"Trump didn't get 50%" is the new "Trump didn't win the popular vote" isn't it.

Democrats a month ago -> "This election is a referendum on Trump"
Trump wins the PV and goes 7/7 in the battlegrounds -> "Trump doesn't have a mandate he won because of egg prices!"

Like you know it was a decisive win, when all his opponents can celebrate was that he fell 0.2% short of a majority of the votes. No swing state win, no improvement in a single state, not even a mere county flip!!!

Trump also won enough states to be decisive by a majority vote, everything except WI and MI, where RFK Jr was left on the ballot against his will after endorsing Trump.

[SWE]

You guys are coping too hard.

(logging onto the website talkelections.org and seeing people talk about an election): lmao why are you guys coping

[Skill and Chance]

I don't think California is coming in hot enough for Harris to push it down to 1.5 or 1.4.  It probably settles at 1.6ish unless there's a flood of Bay Area late mail or something...