How many Trump Cabinet nominees don't get confirmed?
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QuietlyCalm
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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2024, 03:12:58 AM »

Trump has been taking RFK Jr around with him on flights, UFC events and such like, which might be his way of sending a message to his party's Senators.
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2024, 04:01:08 AM »

I have no idea how this is going to play out, but my guess is that Gaetz fails and everyone else is confirmed. There's a handful I would like to fail.
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2024, 06:39:24 PM »

I expect all of his nominees to be confirmed.  I expect the Senators who might be willing to vote against one or more of the nominees to take turns voting no so that they can claim to be serious and claim to be providing some sort of check on Trump without actually jeopardizing any of his picks.
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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2024, 01:15:21 PM »

I have no idea how this is going to play out, but my guess is that Gaetz fails and everyone else is confirmed. There's a handful I would like to fail.

So far, so good. Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2025, 02:48:27 PM »

I have no idea how this is going to play out, but my guess is that Gaetz fails and everyone else is confirmed. There's a handful I would like to fail.

Well what do you know, this turned out to be...exactly correct lol.

I will now be accepting ALL of my well deserved accolades.
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« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2025, 02:52:38 PM »

I have no idea how this is going to play out, but my guess is that Gaetz fails and everyone else is confirmed. There's a handful I would like to fail.

Well what do you know, this turned out to be...exactly correct lol.

I will now be accepting ALL of my well deserved accolades.

Indeed, the moment Gaetz gave away the only card he had, which was his House seat, he probably was doomed.
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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2025, 10:21:12 PM »

I believe all controversial picks are now confirmed (Hegseth, RFK, Gabbard, Patel), but have truly all Cabinet, Cabinet-level, and Assistant/Deputy Secretary jobs been confirmed?
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« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2025, 10:41:39 PM »

I have no idea how this is going to play out, but my guess is that Gaetz fails and everyone else is confirmed. There's a handful I would like to fail.

Well what do you know, this turned out to be...exactly correct lol.

I will now be accepting ALL of my well deserved accolades.


Congratulations on your precision and accuracy!

I'd be more effusive in my praise, but I'm feeling a little tired after following too much of the Trump regime's words and actions for the last month. (I think it is time to take a break - what I can honestly do, I've already done. Now its just watching for worthy causes to donate to as the horrible results of Trump in power manifest more thoroughly in coming months.)
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« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2025, 10:44:57 PM »

I believe all controversial picks are now confirmed (Hegseth, RFK, Gabbard, Patel), but have truly all Cabinet, Cabinet-level, and Assistant/Deputy Secretary jobs been confirmed?

Stefanik, McMahon, Greer, and DeRemer are still waiting.

Deputies haven't been confirmed yet.
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« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2025, 10:47:00 PM »

I believe all controversial picks are now confirmed (Hegseth, RFK, Gabbard, Patel), but have truly all Cabinet, Cabinet-level, and Assistant/Deputy Secretary jobs been confirmed?

Stefanik, McMahon, Greer, and DeRemer are still waiting.

Deputies haven't been confirmed yet.
Are there any Deputy Secretaries near the level of controversy as Hegseth, Gabbard, Patel, RFK?
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« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2025, 10:49:11 PM »

I'm considering it a done deal since it's obvious how they will go. There'd have to be an unknown scandal or a health scare or something.
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« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2025, 11:05:52 PM »

I'm considering it a done deal since it's obvious how they will go. There'd have to be an unknown scandal or a health scare or something.

DeRemer might need some Democratic help still...
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2025, 08:34:27 AM »

If she doesn't get it the accolades can be rescinded. But for now I'm gobbling them up with abandon.
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« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2025, 12:07:51 AM »

I'm considering it a done deal since it's obvious how they will go. There'd have to be an unknown scandal or a health scare or something.

DeRemer might need some Democratic help still...

She didn't.
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« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2025, 12:19:16 AM »

I'm considering it a done deal since it's obvious how they will go. There'd have to be an unknown scandal or a health scare or something.

DeRemer might need some Democratic help still...

She didn't.

Actually she would have failed in committee 11-12 without their help.
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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2025, 12:28:49 AM »

That's effectively advisory. Thune could still put the vote on the floor.
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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2025, 12:44:07 AM »

That's effectively advisory. Thune could still put the vote on the floor.

I'm not really sure where this common online rumor got started, but it's not as true as it seems:

Under the regular rules of the Senate, it is unusual for Senators to attempt to discharge a
committee by motion or resolution, instead of by unanimous consent, and only a few attempts have ever been successful. Senate Rule XVII does permit any Senator to submit a motion or resolution that a committee be discharged from the consideration of a subject referred to it. The discharge process, however, does not allow a simple majority to quickly initiate consideration of a nomination still in committee. It requires several steps and, most notably, a motion or resolution to discharge is debatable. This means that a cloture process may be necessary to discharge a committee in circumstances not covered in the 117th Congress by S.Res. 27. Cloture on a discharge motion or resolution requires the support of three-fifths of the Senate, usually 60 Senators, and several days of floor time.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL31980/26

Maybe 8 Democrats (subtract Paul from the R side) would've helped DeRemer on such a vote, but it'd still be help they'd need to provide.

A few notes on various senate rules you may think of:

- S. Res. 27, 117th Congress refers to a Senate that is evenly divided between the parties, obviously not applicable here.
- A resolution from the 112th Congress allows certain nominations to bypass committee as long as no member actively requests they be referred to a committee, but Secretary of Labor is not covered by that.
- A committee could issue a neutral or even unfavorable report. Historically, Robert Bork received an unfavorable report while Clarence Thomas received a neutral report. However, it's unclear why Senators opposed to a nomination would agree to any type of report in our current, highly contentious political era.
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« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2025, 01:17:49 AM »

Up to the parliamentarian and they could of course nuclear it out and no one would care since it only takes 50 votes anyway now for cloture. Of course we should note, the prediction was everyone but Gaetz would get through, not that they would still get through if every Democrat voted no at every procedural step.
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