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« on: November 11, 2024, 12:04:03 AM »

Judging from some of the takes I've seen, plenty of users here seem to think that the 2026 midterms will be a neutral year or even R-leaning. My question is, how exactly is that possible?

Like, I get that Trump won bigly but:

1) The turnout dynamics that favored Democrats in 2022 despite a miserable economic situation are still there
2) The electorate usually turns against the President's party in a midterm and the improvement the Democrats need to take back the House is like 10,000 votes.
3) The economy won't be doing hot two years into tariffmania
4) Things like mass deporting millions of people won't boost it either
4) Trump is clearly on the decline mentally, the job will have clearly gotten to him by then.

Like the economy was great in 2018 and it was still D+8 lmao. I don't see how they improve here lol
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2024, 12:17:21 AM »

Trump winning the PV likely gives him a higher floor. In addition, while it's unlikely, him passing all his big policies would cut of many attack routes the Dems have and possibly pump up the base. Plus, people might still like the mass deportations-the law and order types would, at least.

I think 2026 will likely end up being a 2018 and 2020 mix, with the Dems getting about ~230 House seats and pushing the Senate down to 51-47-2, but it's an unlikely possibility the GOP does decently well and the economy stays stable enough that they can push the seat margin to single digits-and maybe win Georgia and Michigan.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2024, 12:22:09 AM »

too early to predict 2026..

but even a blue ripple probably flips the House.

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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2024, 12:28:10 AM »
« Edited: November 11, 2024, 12:39:52 AM by Existing in the context »

I think mostly people view the Democrats of having limited options in the Senate and the House. While said limited options does give the majority in the House. It just not likely to be a large wave because they are locked out of a lot places because of partisanship. This early out its kind of hard to tell. The pendulum shift can be fast and maybe more opportunities open up nobody thought would.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2024, 10:15:29 AM »

I think mostly people view the Democrats of having limited options in the Senate and the House. While said limited options does give the majority in the House. It just not likely to be a large wave because they are locked out of a lot places because of partisanship. This early out its kind of hard to tell. The pendulum shift can be fast and maybe more opportunities open up nobody thought would.
Even if the Senate doesn't flip and we only gain ME+NC, it doesn't not make it a d wave year. I don't think we win any of the R + 10ish states but they could be close in that environment. And several republicans are in seats that voted for Joe Biden in 2020 or/and didn't trend massively r(Schweikert, McKenzie etc).
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2024, 10:30:01 AM »

Because declaring the losing party dead or saying it’s impossible for them to make inroads with voters they didn’t win in the last election is a tradition as old as time.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2024, 10:33:21 AM »

Because declaring the losing party dead or saying it’s impossible for them to make inroads with voters they didn’t win in the last election is a tradition as old as time.

Yup, if you go back earlier in this thread back in late 2016 and early 2017, you can see a lot of users making similar claims about the midterms then. Voters goldfish memories benefit both parties. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2024, 11:22:25 AM »

Dem's will win the house in 2026. Question is if they can keep GA,and flip NC ME.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2024, 02:35:25 PM »

Judging from some of the takes I've seen, plenty of users here seem to think that the 2026 midterms will be a neutral year or even R-leaning. My question is, how exactly is that possible?

Like, I get that Trump won bigly but:

1) The turnout dynamics that favored Democrats in 2022 despite a miserable economic situation are still there
2) The electorate usually turns against the President's party in a midterm and the improvement the Democrats need to take back the House is like 10,000 votes.
3) The economy won't be doing hot two years into tariffmania
4) Things like mass deporting millions of people won't boost it either
4) Trump is clearly on the decline mentally, the job will have clearly gotten to him by then.

Like the economy was great in 2018 and it was still D+8 lmao. I don't see how they improve here lol

No.1 is enough.

The GOP doesn't have a shot in 2026 due to Midterm electorates being Older and Whiter which favour Democrats since 2018.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2024, 04:51:42 PM »

Dem's will win the house in 2026. Question is if they can keep GA,and flip NC ME.

Probably. I think they lose 2 seats in the senate and 15 in the house if the next two years are OK and both parties are excited. If the cheese slips out of the sandwich on the R side and turnout is bad, we are looking at 4/25 instead.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2024, 05:04:06 PM »

House generic ballot swings against incumbent party from presidential to following midterm

1992=11.8
1996=1.1
2000= -4.3
2004=10.6
2008=17.4
2012=6.9
2016=9.7
2020=5.8

There are some signs it could be narrowing, the last three midterms only had a single digit margin swing, though even a middling single digit swing is in theory more then enough. That said it doesn't help Democrats much if that gain comes mostly from the safe D and safe R jurisdictions they lost ground in during the 2022 and 2024 cycles.
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2024, 05:19:34 PM »

House generic ballot swings against incumbent party from presidential to following midterm

1992=11.8
1996=1.1
2000= -4.3
2004=10.6
2008=17.4
2012=6.9
2016=9.7
2020=5.8

There are some signs it could be narrowing, the last three midterms only had a single digit margin swing, though even a middling single digit swing is in theory more then enough. That said it doesn't help Democrats much if that gain comes mostly from the safe D and safe R jurisdictions they lost ground in during the 2022 and 2024 cycles.

There’s a lot of seats in blue states that they can probably win back. Even if this was like a D+4 election, it would probably be enough to win about a dozen seats when it’s looking like they will only need 3.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2024, 07:19:53 PM »

Only if Trump and the party succeed with f***ery.
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2024, 08:31:26 PM »

House generic ballot swings against incumbent party from presidential to following midterm

1992=11.8
1996=1.1
2000= -4.3
2004=10.6
2008=17.4
2012=6.9
2016=9.7
2020=5.8

There are some signs it could be narrowing, the last three midterms only had a single digit margin swing, though even a middling single digit swing is in theory more then enough. That said it doesn't help Democrats much if that gain comes mostly from the safe D and safe R jurisdictions they lost ground in during the 2022 and 2024 cycles.

That's to do with the economy at the time more than anything.  2010 was after the 2008 crash so the swing was huge.   In 2022 the economy was on the upswing from all COVID stuff ending and inflation not setting in yet.   Most of the rest are pretty normal (high single digits to low double digits).

2002 was just an oddball case due to 9/11 and Bush barely winning in 2000.
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2024, 08:54:30 PM »

1: Trends are increasingly becoming meaningless. Polling is unreliable. Only four of the past seven midterms - after but excluding the Republican Revolution of 1994 - have been opposition waves. What's not to say this particular convention can't be coinflipped away?

2: A fair few of the representatives who people think are vulnerable - such as Schweikert, Evans and Bacon - have been repeatedly underestimated. The smart money is on people underestimating them in 2026, too.
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2024, 09:51:14 PM »

"A shot" at what? Stopping a D wave would take some relatively unusual events, and the House is probably flipping, but Republicans are favored to hold the Senate given the map.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2024, 09:52:00 PM »

The House probably flips, but the GOP has a shot at keeping Senate at 53-47.
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2024, 01:07:56 AM »

I do think the economy should be in fairly decent shape in 2026 (hopefully) which would validate the Trump claims of "fixing" things even if it just being elected at the right time.

Even if he implements tariffs to the extent he says (which I'm skeptical of) the effects won't be felt until after the 2026 midterms.

And there aren't that many social issues Democrats can run on unless Trump truly goes through with his campaign ideas - possible, but I think we saw in 2018 that these issues didn't actually activate as much of a swing against Trump as expected.

Democrats will need to be ready to activate their voters in a way that Republicans did in 2021-2022 - bringing up issues like schools, inflation, etc. which still managed to fail because of Dobbs. Democrats need to be ready for what might happen including Trump going through with some items that prove popular or other events that might favor Republican policies. California, New York and other "blue states" will continue to serve as an effective foil for Republicans that will be used to try and motivate voters to support Republicans against "leftists".
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2024, 12:29:42 PM »

The GOP controls the internet. That's why
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2024, 07:48:28 PM »


The media. Which makes sense. They’re the establishment elite.

What this election did was to show that macros or even the campaigns themselves might be meaningless if you are that good or that bad.
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2024, 08:09:21 PM »

The Senate Map is a reasonable one, whereas 2022 was largely D-favoring and 2024 was largely R-favored.
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2024, 08:28:35 PM »

The Senate Map is a reasonable one, whereas 2022 was largely D-favoring and 2024 was largely R-favored.

If we have a D+8 situation, Democrats sweep
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2024, 09:24:18 PM »

The biggest thing about 2026 will be the senate, and the fundamentals simply favor Republicans. Outside of Maine and North Carolina, you have every state where Trump won by 10 points or more, and with how much polarization there is nowadays, it's hard to see Republicans losing the senate.

The house, yeah it definitely flips in 2026. The gubernatorial and state legislative races will be something, but it is not a census year like 2030 where whoever wins that year gets to control redistricting for the next decade. Outside of Nevada, New Hampshire, and Georgia, Dems are essentially maxed out at the gubernatorial level. Phil Scott will never lose reelection.

I want to be convinced that Dems can win in more republican states again, and I'll have to see it to believe it.
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2024, 09:41:22 PM »

The biggest thing about 2026 will be the senate, and the fundamentals simply favor Republicans. Outside of Maine and North Carolina, you have every state where Trump won by 10 points or more, and with how much polarization there is nowadays, it's hard to see Republicans losing the senate.

The house, yeah it definitely flips in 2026. The gubernatorial and state legislative races will be something, but it is not a census year like 2030 where whoever wins that year gets to control redistricting for the next decade. Outside of Nevada, New Hampshire, and Georgia, Dems are essentially maxed out at the gubernatorial level. Phil Scott will never lose reelection.

I want to be convinced that Dems can win in more republican states again, and I'll have to see it to believe it.
One thing to keep in mind is that Joni Ernst did underperform Trump big last time she was on the ballot. And who knows, maybe she doesn't seek re-election or gets a job in the Trump admin?

And Rob Sand was able to win Iowa in a red wave by the skin of his teeth.

I could see Democrats getting an upset in a Plains state or something.
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2024, 09:51:03 AM »

They don't they have 1 or 2 pickups for Govs that's not what they got in 24 they got all 7 battlegrounds. That's not gonna happen in 26
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