Why are working class democrats rejected by the democratic establishment and progressives?
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Queen Isuelt
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« on: November 10, 2024, 05:13:53 AM »
« edited: November 10, 2024, 05:23:07 AM by Queen Isuelt »

A long, long list of working class democrats rejected by the democratic establishment and progressives

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Heidi Heitkamp - North Dakota; still the most extraordinary senate win in 2012. It will be a long, long time before a democrat is elected statewide in north dakota again.
Joe Manchin - West Virginia won when the seat was 70-30 republican and was slaughted for trying to represent his constituents.
Kyrsten Sinema  - Arizona you will struggle to find many politicians who have won in red republican districts and also became the first democrat elected statewide in decades but she did it. She said throughout the campaign she would be independent but for democrats and progressives to be outraged by how she votes. She would have won by 60% of the vote and held the seat for decades but instead she was destoyed by the progressives and the democratic establishment.
Sherrod Brown - Ohio when he's repeatedly told to not run for president you know something is up. He should have ran in 2020. He was going to by Amy Klobuchars VP had she won the nomination in 2020 but that was unacceptable to the party because the republican governor would pick the next senator. So he can't run for president or be vp.
Amy Klobuchar - Minnesota She had no money unlike Harris, Warren, Sanders and Biden in 2020 and had the best record based on achievements in the senate and her electoral record of winning in red district is real. She got more endorsements from editorial boards because when they met her they realized holy sh**t shes actually done stuff and got it passed. Destroyed by the democratic establishment after her result in new hampshire.
Evan Bayh - Indiana Another democrat who picked up working class votes but was destoryed because he supported the death penalty and the right to own a gun. Ridiculous.
Mary Landrieu - Louisiana Another democrat who got destroyed by the progressive left for her support with the oil and gas industry. She's representing Louisiana!!! What do you expect? She could have had a seat for life. The republicans ran democrats against her to defeat her but she lost because democrats didn't vote for her.
Ben Nelson - Nebraska Another democrat representing a red republican state demolished by the democratic establishment and left to rot. Won comfortable re-election but was hung out to dry on the affordable care act and he never recovered and lost every independent and republican with it.

Next victims
Jared Golden (Maine)
Elissa Slotkin (Michigan)
Mary Peltola (Alaska)

When is it going to stop this cannibalization from establishment democrats and progressives to expect democrats who win votes in republican areas to expect them to behave like they represent San Francisco or Hawaii?

The result is you have less rights than before. Your finger pointing and constant complaining pushes people away and you marginalize yourself resulting in republican majorities, republican supreme courts and ineffective democrats making decisions that are for themselves not the country.  
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2024, 05:23:05 AM »

I think you might make your case better if you did a better job of picking examples who were either from working class backgrounds themselves or (actually, ideally, and) were interested in advocating for working class interests.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2024, 05:36:02 AM »

Well, the elite, with it's elitist interests (which have little common with ordinary people interests) generously donates money for electoral campaigns. And "he, who pays the fiddler, calls the tune". For many elite members, say, transgender's rights are MUCH more important then working people concerns about inflation, unemployment, crime, and so on. Whole i support transgender's rights, priority (IMHO) must be different.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2024, 06:17:34 AM »

I don't know enough about the others, but I know for certain that Manchin and Bayh sure as hell were not working class by any stretch.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2024, 08:18:15 AM »

Love the idea that Evan Bayh is a working class populist.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2024, 08:25:54 AM »

Maybe because their actual records didn’t match their initial perception?

Plus, with some of them it was inevitable that they would lose at some point.

Like, unless Romney managed to win 2012, (and even that probably wouldn’t have been enough) there was no way Landrieu was ever going to hold on in 2014.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2024, 08:29:33 AM »

Bring up more of the AOCs and recruit from diners and manufacturing jobs
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2024, 10:18:46 AM »

I'm sorry but half of these aren't "working class" senators
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2024, 12:39:57 PM »

Manchin blocked a filibuster and decided it was a good idea to stop the Child Tax Credit,which would have taken many children and families out of poverty. He is no more populist than Sinema.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2024, 02:12:50 PM »

Manchin blocked a filibuster and decided it was a good idea to stop the Child Tax Credit,which would have taken many children and families out of poverty. He is no more populist than Sinema.
Exactly.

Many of those “red state Dems” were just as corporate as the Republicans. Some of them voted to massively increase the military budget and bail out wall street.

If anything they were anti populist. Their only “populism” comes from pointing out when Republicans are even worse, and holding guns (or some other state related culture crap) while doing so, while offering nothing to actually improve their constituents’s lives.  


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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2024, 02:18:03 PM »

Normally I disagree with this stuff but the way some liberals trying to railroad Elissa Slotkin was so bizarre to me. She was literally just a normie Dem and so many hated her for no reason.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2024, 07:38:21 PM »

This thread proves that "working class" has become a meaningless, nebulous term.
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2024, 04:03:27 AM »

The funniest part of this post to me is not attributing the moniker "working class Democrat" to a bunch of people who are anything but, as others have pointed out, but the suggestion that Hawaii is notorious for electing "progressives" and politically comparable to San Francisco.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2024, 10:19:02 AM »

Hardliners in both parties do this because they’re too shortsighted to see that winning with moderates in tough districts is better than not winning. Republicans do this too - look at all the people online calling for Susan Collins to be primaried for not 100% suckling Trump’s ass for example.
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2024, 10:20:37 AM »

What the hell is your definition of "working class"?
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2024, 12:29:03 PM »

Ok......

Heidi Heitkamp is awesome. Not sure she was rejected by anybody unless you mean triaged at the end of Senate campaign she was destined to lose?

Joe Manchin is great at pretending to be working class, but he is quite literally the managerial class. Did you forget when his daughter was personally invested in keeping prescription drug prices high? Not to mention he was not only not rejected, but allowed to write and promote Biden's greatest piece of legislation lmao

Sherrod Brown IS a progressive. That's the craziest part of this. He has almost nothing in common with the others. Not only was he not rejected, but people are trying to make him DNC chair rn lol

In fact, everyone you've listed is a popular Democratic senator who received collectively billions in party funds and support lol....

But what's truly insane is that you are calling Kyrsten Sinema working class. Google "Kyrsten Sinema designer clothes" or "Kyrsten Sinema flight requirements." She is a diva. I have personally witnessed her berate a minimum wage worker for making a martini not to her liking. She is Human Resources personified. Not working class lol.

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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2024, 02:24:46 PM »

How were any of these people rejected by the Democratic establishment??? Democrats probably spent $1 billion total, if not more, supporting their campaigns.
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2024, 02:39:12 PM »
« Edited: November 15, 2024, 02:45:41 PM by I love MAGA, don’t send me to the camps »

This is the funniest list/thread of all time.

Heidi Heitkamp - the ONE potentially true example here: Heidi did not seem to come from an affluent background or run in elite circles

Joe Manchin - he owns a goddamn houseboat/yacht … how the hell is Manchin working class…?

Kyrsten Sinema  - while her political story highlights the food stamps upbringing, by all accounts she is the poster child of elite consumption today with her Ritz Carlton stays and Euro trips

Sherrod Brown - He grew up with a silver spoon — his father was a doctor, his mother college educated (unusual for her time) and seemingly from Southern aristocracy, and Sherrod went to Yale for college; any story suggesting he is or was working class is lying to you

Amy Klobuchar - her father was a well-known Minnesotan journalist who has his own Wikipedia page; not exactly a working class upbringing

Evan Bayh - his father was a US Senator…

Mary Landrieu - her father was the mayor of New Orleans…

Ben Nelson - harder to find info on his family tree but Nelson himself worked up the corporate ladder in insurance, eventually becoming an executive before pursuing politics — definitely not working class
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2024, 06:09:03 PM »

Tempted to ask whether this belongs on the What Ifs board. It reads like electoral fan fiction. A narrative supported almost entirely by candidate profiles ripped straight out of an active imagination. Naming candidates who retired after long careers or who lost reelection in the general as examples from the establishment hit list is particularly funny.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2024, 07:36:46 PM »

Because the democratic establishment and progressives are elitists and they despise the working class.
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2024, 01:43:21 AM »

Because the democratic establishment and progressives are elitists and they despise the working class.


That's why nominating Dr. Oz, Hershel Walker, Eric Hovde, Kari Lake, and Adam Laxalt worked out so well!
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2024, 09:41:55 AM »

If the phenomenon you're describing were real surely you'd be able to come up with examples of it happening
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