MI-Sen 2026: Peters retiring

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Have to say I'm pretty worried about El Sayed somehow eking through the primary in this fractured field. I just have a hard time seeing someone named Abdulrahman Mohamed El-Sayed getting elected statewide especially one who is considered in the Bernie wing of the party. I wish he would primary Thanedar instead.

Yeah, El Sayed would definitely cost us the seat

Do you think he would have won in 2018 for governor? Trump was more unpopular than he is now and Snyder's approval ratings were even worse

[Schumer can go f*** himself!]

Have to say I'm pretty worried about El Sayed somehow eking through the primary in this fractured field. I just have a hard time seeing someone named Abdulrahman Mohamed El-Sayed getting elected statewide especially one who is considered in the Bernie wing of the party. I wish he would primary Thanedar instead.

Yeah, El Sayed would definitely cost us the seat

Do you think he would have won in 2018 for governor? Trump was more unpopular than he is now and Snyder's approval ratings were even worse

Not a chance.  He’s a terrible candidate.

[President Johnson]

Have to say I'm pretty worried about El Sayed somehow eking through the primary in this fractured field. I just have a hard time seeing someone named Abdulrahman Mohamed El-Sayed getting elected statewide especially one who is considered in the Bernie wing of the party. I wish he would primary Thanedar instead.

Yeah, El Sayed would definitely cost us the seat

I'm not sure his loss would be assured. He seems weaker than Generic Democrat and would underperform by a few points. If 2026 is a blue wave, he'd probably pull it off. However, I wouldn't take the risk. Better nominate a mainstream Democrat.

[YE]

I don’t see why El Sayed would win a primary with most of the grassroots energy behind McMorrow.

[South Dakota Democrat]

There's a lot of talk about how a state senator wouldn't beat a member of Congress for the nomination.  I think that's too simplistic though.  Neither are going to have statewide name recognition.  Where a member of the legislature would usually struggle in a primary against a member of Congress is due to name recognition - both won't be universal, but you'd expect the member of Congress to be a bit better known.  However, that's countered by the fact that McMorrow has better name recognition than most state legislators would have.  Plus, she would occupy a clear anti-Schumer lane in the primary.  Fundraising is also a barrier to a state legislator seeking a Senate seat, at times, but again that should be blunted somewhat due to the above factors.

[Roll Roons]

https://twitter.com/NolanFinleyDN/status/1910758315291730272

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

In a Trump midterm Rs won't win MI looking at the blowout in the Gubernatorial Eday

[Blair]

There's a lot of talk about how a state senator wouldn't beat a member of Congress for the nomination.  I think that's too simplistic though.  Neither are going to have statewide name recognition.  Where a member of the legislature would usually struggle in a primary against a member of Congress is due to name recognition - both won't be universal, but you'd expect the member of Congress to be a bit better known.  However, that's countered by the fact that McMorrow has better name recognition than most state legislators would have.  Plus, she would occupy a clear anti-Schumer lane in the primary.  Fundraising is also a barrier to a state legislator seeking a Senate seat, at times, but again that should be blunted somewhat due to the above factors.

Yes I agree with this; the tea party wave saw a lot of races where you would have excepted the congress person, attorney general or some other figure to win only to end up getting curb stomped by some random state official who understood the mood.

[henster]

There's a lot of talk about how a state senator wouldn't beat a member of Congress for the nomination.  I think that's too simplistic though.  Neither are going to have statewide name recognition.  Where a member of the legislature would usually struggle in a primary against a member of Congress is due to name recognition - both won't be universal, but you'd expect the member of Congress to be a bit better known.  However, that's countered by the fact that McMorrow has better name recognition than most state legislators would have.  Plus, she would occupy a clear anti-Schumer lane in the primary.  Fundraising is also a barrier to a state legislator seeking a Senate seat, at times, but again that should be blunted somewhat due to the above factors.

I think Stevens is less formidable because she hasn't had to run competitive races like Slotkin did. Slotkin ran in several tough races and spent millions on ads in the biggest media markets in the state boosting her name ID. That's why I think Scholten or Rivet would've been in better positions if they ran because their name ID is higher from their races.

[JMT]

https://twitter.com/jessicataylor/status/1911739492882436586?s=46&t=-r8JGlJn...

[Horus]

Stevens insulted people in her own district for having the audacity to own guns. Even in a very Dem year it would be close with her. She's just unappealing.

[Schumer can go f*** himself!]

Stevens insulted people in her own district for having the audacity to own guns. Even in a very Dem year it would be close with her. She's just unappealing.

Nah, she’d do about the same as a generic Dem; she’s fairly inoffensive (although McMorrow would be a better Senator imo).

[MargieCat]

https://twitter.com/jacobrubashkin/status/1910446700352712733?s=46&t=DDrUxaE...

[Anti-Penguin Tariff Voter]

My personal rankings would probably be

McMorrow
Tate
Stevens

[Schumer can go f*** himself!]

https://twitter.com/jacobrubashkin/status/1910446700352712733?s=46&t=DDrUxaE...

McMorrow or Stevens would be better than Tate

[John Fettercuck]

I admittedly don't know a whole lot about Tate. What's objectionable about him? I know he's not McMorrow but we don't need any more Quislingcrats like Stevens.

[henster]

Compared to McMorrow and Stevens, Tate’s background just seems like it’d be more interesting and inspiring to voters. Born in Detroit to a working class family, played in the NFL, served in the Marines and then went into business & public office. You look at McMorrow and her bio looks like the typical politician the same for Stevens. If Tate runs he’d be a major dark horse candidate.

[Schumer can go f*** himself!]

Compared to McMorrow and Stevens, Tate’s background just seems like it’d be more interesting and inspiring to voters. Born in Detroit to a working class family, played in the NFL, served in the Marines and then went into business & public office. You look at McMorrow and her bio looks like the typical politician the same for Stevens. If Tate runs he’d be a major dark horse candidate.

Tate is a generic Detroit machine politician and a weak one at that.  He’s looking at running for Senate because despite being a Detroit machine hack and all that implies, he didn’t even have enough pull there to make a serious mayoral bid.  He’d probably lose statewide or at least make things much closer than necessary.

[Horus]

Compared to McMorrow and Stevens, Tate’s background just seems like it’d be more interesting and inspiring to voters. Born in Detroit to a working class family, played in the NFL, served in the Marines and then went into business & public office. You look at McMorrow and her bio looks like the typical politician the same for Stevens. If Tate runs he’d be a major dark horse candidate.

Tate is a generic Detroit machine politician and a weak one at that. 

Still better than Stevens who goes out of her way to be "bipartisan" in all the wrong places.

[Anti-Penguin Tariff Voter]

Compared to McMorrow and Stevens, Tate’s background just seems like it’d be more interesting and inspiring to voters. Born in Detroit to a working class family, played in the NFL, served in the Marines and then went into business & public office. You look at McMorrow and her bio looks like the typical politician the same for Stevens. If Tate runs he’d be a major dark horse candidate.

Tate is a generic Detroit machine politician and a weak one at that. 

Still better than Stevens who goes out of her way to be "bipartisan" in all the wrong places.

Stevens needs to be put on Fetterman-Sinema watch

[Storr]

Compared to McMorrow and Stevens, Tate’s background just seems like it’d be more interesting and inspiring to voters. Born in Detroit to a working class family, played in the NFL, served in the Marines and then went into business & public office. You look at McMorrow and her bio looks like the typical politician the same for Stevens. If Tate runs he’d be a major dark horse candidate.

I know the situations aren't the same, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Michigan Dem establishment is concerned that nominating Tate would result in a Mandela Barnes type scenario.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Compared to McMorrow and Stevens, Tate’s background just seems like it’d be more interesting and inspiring to voters. Born in Detroit to a working class family, played in the NFL, served in the Marines and then went into business & public office. You look at McMorrow and her bio looks like the typical politician the same for Stevens. If Tate runs he’d be a major dark horse candidate.

I know the situations aren't the same, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Michigan Dem establishment is concerned that nominating Tate would result in a Mandela Barnes type scenario.

Barnes lost by 1 pt and Tate isn't Barnes, and Johnson clearly got a bump from Hurricane IAN, Johnson was losing before then

Remember 22 was an R yr they won FL, WI and NU races when Hurricane IAN hit and Rs gotta bump, and George Santos won his seat on an upset. Ds were favs to hold the if it wasn't for NY in 22

But, Tate isn't Mandela Barnes he's like Allred a football star, I will endorse him once he runs

[MargieCat]

Is Tate a conservative Democrat?

I thought I read somewhere that he was obstructing Gretchen Whitmer and Michigan Dems but don't remember where I read it and can't find it.

[henster]

Compared to McMorrow and Stevens, Tate’s background just seems like it’d be more interesting and inspiring to voters. Born in Detroit to a working class family, played in the NFL, served in the Marines and then went into business & public office. You look at McMorrow and her bio looks like the typical politician the same for Stevens. If Tate runs he’d be a major dark horse candidate.

I know the situations aren't the same, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Michigan Dem establishment is concerned that nominating Tate would result in a Mandela Barnes type scenario.

Mandela Barnes was problematic because he was unvetted and in the Bernie wing of the party, had expressed support for defunding the police and abolishing ICE along with some other weird things like praising the ayatollahs. From what I gather Tate is pretty establishment & moderate and to get elected Speaker like he did you have to be pretty mainstream anyways.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Compared to McMorrow and Stevens, Tate’s background just seems like it’d be more interesting and inspiring to voters. Born in Detroit to a working class family, played in the NFL, served in the Marines and then went into business & public office. You look at McMorrow and her bio looks like the typical politician the same for Stevens. If Tate runs he’d be a major dark horse candidate.

I know the situations aren't the same, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Michigan Dem establishment is concerned that nominating Tate would result in a Mandela Barnes type scenario.

Mandela Barnes was problematic because he was in the Bernie wing of the party and had expressed support for defunding the police and abolishing ICE along with some other weird things like praising the ayatollahs. From what I gather Tate is pretty establishment & moderate and to get elected Speaker you have to be pretty mainstream anyways.

He still lost by 1 pt and it was due to Hurricane IAN, Barnes was leading Johnson before IAN, he was strong enough to win as LT Gov.  The Ds nominated Beasley in NC that yr and she was branded as defunding the police , as well

I posted most of the Barnes  v Johnson polls before and after IAN.

That's why Tate isn't in yet because he is controversial but I hope he wins