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« Reply #4125 on: November 05, 2024, 10:24:20 PM »

Can we now all agree that the Liz (+Dick) Cheney endorsement tour was pointless at best and actively destructive at worst?

Democrats fought against the baddies of the Bush Administration for 8 years and Harris surrounded herself with those baddies.

It was awful for every Democrat who fought in 2000-2008.

This is qualitatively different
I’m not sure we are going to have anything that could be considered free or fair elections in 2028

Oh we'll be fine.
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« Reply #4126 on: November 05, 2024, 10:24:24 PM »

Where does this rank on the list of worst election nights? Worse than 2016 and 2004? I think so.

This isn't worse than 2016. The fact that this election would be a close win at best for Harris was obvious if you looked at the data. The fact that people jammed their fingers in their ears and closed their eyes and refused to observe the polls slipping in the last month changes nothing. No amount of crying "herding!" or "flooding the zone!" changes the reality on the ground.

2016 was such a shock because Trump over-performed the polling averages by 6-8% in the states that put him over 270.

Don't remember 2004, so I can't say.
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« Reply #4127 on: November 05, 2024, 10:24:29 PM »

Give it a rest. The country is sick of your party and how insanely extreme it is. Trump will bring us together.
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« Reply #4128 on: November 05, 2024, 10:24:58 PM »


No it doesn't! Do the math? What counties will have the vote?

I'm serious, I would love for you to own me and prove me wrong right now.
Gwinnett only has 17% in.
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« Reply #4129 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:02 PM »

In hindsight he probably won after that ridiculously hard picture of him came out.

Democrats should just recruit someone like the Rock to run in 2028. Someone charismatic and tough. And the VP should be Whitmer or Klobuchar or even AOC? Idk.
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« Reply #4130 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:07 PM »

Trump is favored right now but Kamala hopes of Blue Wall sweep to win isn't gone yet.

Popular vote gonna be big story. Trump competitive and might actually win it. Outside chance of Trump PV win Kamala EC win but you'd rather be Trump right now for EV.
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« Reply #4131 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:12 PM »

Even Connecticut and Rhode Island are just barely into double digits. What the heck?!
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« Reply #4132 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:25 PM »


Probably has the best trend for the Ds in nation. Longterm the like of CT, NJ & RI are probably more winnable for the Rs.
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« Reply #4133 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:33 PM »

If he does wind up winning, it will vindicate the biggest pieces of sh-t on this forum, ing hell…
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« Reply #4134 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:35 PM »

Only McDonalds can stump Trump now.
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« Reply #4135 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:40 PM »


No it doesn't! Do the math? What counties will have the vote?

I'm serious, I would love for you to own me and prove me wrong right now.

Yes, the door is almost closed for Harris in Georgia (though it's still open just a sliver).
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« Reply #4136 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:43 PM »


I believe!

Keep dreaming.
Kakyo, how's your night ?

Pretty good. Red mirage like 2020 is happening, and certain people here are going to look very foolish once that is apparent.
Might as well give your concession speech like Harris will.
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« Reply #4137 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:46 PM »

Where is Selzer?
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« Reply #4138 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:50 PM »


79% counted in IA-3 and Baccam still up 4 over Nunn -- might be a Democratic counter-trend gain, so there's still something going on.

On the GOP side, looks very clear that Herrell will beat Vasquez, and it looks like a shock gain shaping up in MD-6.
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« Reply #4139 on: November 05, 2024, 10:25:56 PM »

✨Gallegomentum✨
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« Reply #4140 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:05 PM »


I believe!

Keep dreaming.
Kakyo, how's your night ?

Pretty good. Red mirage like 2020 is happening, and certain people here are going to look very foolish once that is apparent.

Maybe if you try being negative you'll end up with an accurate take.
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« Reply #4141 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:06 PM »

I'm actually surprising myself with how I'm mostly just feeling a sort of calm acceptance and not anger, sadness, shock, or disgust. Just kind of numb maybe? I feel ok.
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« Reply #4142 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:06 PM »


I believe!

Keep dreaming.
Kakyo, how's your night ?

Pretty good. Red mirage like 2020 is happening, and certain people here are going to look very foolish once that is apparent.
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« Reply #4143 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:12 PM »

The Democrats have fundamentally misunderstood the stakes of this era. Faced with an authoritarian GOP determined to consolidate power, they clung to a strategy of restraint and adherence to tradition, which ultimately limited their effectiveness. While the GOP reshaped the rules of the game, Democrats remained fixated on maintaining the status quo, prioritizing appearances over impact. This approach left them hamstrung, unable to counter a movement that doesn’t hesitate to defy convention when it suits its goals.

The Democratic Party’s insistence on following norms in an era where their opponents do not share the same respect for democratic principles has left them vulnerable. By refusing to adapt to the shifting dynamics, they allowed an insurgent, authoritarian movement to gain ground. At a time when decisive action was critical, the Democrats’ caution and adherence to tradition came off as weakness, exposing their inability to defend against a force committed to undermining the very system they vowed to protect. This unwillingness to wield power with the necessary urgency and conviction may ultimately be their undoing.
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« Reply #4144 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:28 PM »


No it doesn't! Do the math? What counties will have the vote?

I'm serious, I would love for you to own me and prove me wrong right now.
Gwinnett only has 17% in.

It was 78% in
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« Reply #4145 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:29 PM »

It is becoming increasingly apparent that my forecast significantly underestimated Trump, which I am more than willing to admit. I think the error I made was being skeptical that the 2016/2020 polling error could repeat for a third time.

At one point, I did have an alternative model that factored in historical polling errors, and as I recall, it was producing results similar to what we're seeing now. But ultimately, I became convinced that pollsters might be overcorrecting for their past errors, and I did not believe it would be sound to assume the past errors would repeat. So I chose to not to go with that model. In hindsight, I should have, and it was an incorrect assumption that pollsters were overcorrecting.

The conclusion is that polling has very serious problems that still have not been fixed, and I was mistaken to think otherwise.

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« Reply #4146 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:34 PM »

Palestinianism is electoral poison
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« Reply #4147 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:38 PM »

This country is really lost. That's all I can say. I can't believe what I am seeing.
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« Reply #4148 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:47 PM »

Where does this rank on the list of worst election nights? Worse than 2016 and 2004? I think so.

This isn't worse than 2016. The fact that this election would be a close win at best for Harris was obvious if you looked at the data. The fact that people jammed their fingers in their ears and closed their eyes and refused to observe the polls slipping in the last month changes nothing. No amount of crying "herding!" or "flooding the zone!" changes the reality on the ground.

2016 was such a shock because Trump over-performed the polling averages by 6-8% in the states that put him over 270.

Don't remember 2004, so I can't say.

2004 the exit polls suggested a Kerry win and then a lot of solid red states that you would have expected to be called at close took like an hour. And it wasn't until late in the night that it started looking good for Bush.
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« Reply #4149 on: November 05, 2024, 10:26:47 PM »

If he does wind up winning, it will vindicate the biggest pieces of sh-t on this forum, ing hell…
Wbrocks67 said he would lose
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