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« Reply #4025 on: November 05, 2024, 10:13:49 PM »

Maybe Harris got too overly ambitious, and the campaign should have just focused on the Rust Belt trio...

The extreme minimalist strategy rarely works. If she'd done that lost Wisconsin narrowly but also missed NC & GA narrowly everyone would be calling her a useless strategist & the worst presidential candidate ever.
She also had a billion dollars, investing heavily in all 7 was only strategy
I think she picked the right states tbh... Not investing in Texas, Iowa, Ohio or Florida was a good decision.

Barring maybe Arizona or Nevada that we don't have enough votes in from to say, she's not going to lose any state she invested heavily in by more than a point or so. That indicates that they were all the right investment. Certainly different from the Clinton post mortem, or the Biden retrospective after he won much more narrowly than anticipated.
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« Reply #4026 on: November 05, 2024, 10:13:54 PM »

I won't put too much of the blame on Harris. Biden bowed out too late, she was given a near impossible task, and she hit the states she need to. She did not bring up her race her gender, she focused on unity, and she tried to appear sincere. It just wasn't enough to beat out the baked in views on Dems regarding immigration and weird social issues, nor was it enough to beat out the anti incumbent mood sweeping the world.

Trump has gone from a deep, narrow base to a wide but shallow one. Remember, elections are controlled at the state level. There' still a chance to salvage the country in 2026. If we continue on this trajectory after 2028 however, the antidemocratic norms will become too baked in and the republic as we know it will likely be over.
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« Reply #4027 on: November 05, 2024, 10:13:59 PM »

Remember how right wing twitter was relentless mocked for saying that Virginia might be in play? With the early voting data showing how energized the rural areas were?
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« Reply #4028 on: November 05, 2024, 10:14:19 PM »

DeKalb GA fully in. 3 point shift right from 2020.
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« Reply #4029 on: November 05, 2024, 10:14:20 PM »

So how much up will the R Senate and House numbers go?
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« Reply #4030 on: November 05, 2024, 10:14:24 PM »

Georgia is still within grasp imo. The forecasts seem different but the outstanding vote appears to skew significantly Democratic. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm keeping an open mind on that one.
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« Reply #4031 on: November 05, 2024, 10:14:28 PM »

https://twitter.com/umichvoter/status/1853998910445965317


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FIRST VOTES FROM DETROIT (in-person early vote)

Harris 42,488 (90%)
Trump 3,850 (8%)
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« Reply #4032 on: November 05, 2024, 10:14:33 PM »

I won't put too much of the blame on Harris. Biden bowed out too late, she was given a near impossible task, and she hit the states she need to. She did not bring up her race her gender, she focused on unity, and she tried to appear sincere. It just wasn't enough to beat out the baked in views on Dems regarding immigration and weird social issues, nor was it enough to beat out the anti incumbent mood sweeping the world.


The blame is clearly gonna be the Walz gaffe
Trump has gone from a deep, narrow base to a wide but shallow one. Remember, elections are controlled at the state level. There' still a chance to salvage the country in 2026. If we continue on this trajectory after 2028 however, the antidemocratic norms will become too baked in and the republic as we know it will likely be over.
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« Reply #4033 on: November 05, 2024, 10:14:36 PM »


Yes agree 100%...

Individuals should not be able to buy American Citizenship for $1 Million Dollars, as is currently the case and bring their entire kids and family over.

Totally agree that we should shut down the pipeline of individuals who come over from South Asia while they get paid $120-$150k jobs in the High Tech Factory where I work at in Oregon.

Meanwhile, absolutely agree, we need to do a massive deportation of those Central Americans working in the Farms and Fields that produce our Food, as well as those who help work in the Meatpacking Plants of the Midwest.

I can't wait to see the massive deportation program of the Trump regime while meanwhile Americans are wondering why their crops aren't getting harvested and their meat isn't coming through when the Trump Deportation Squad comes for you....

I mean if you can bring back 2012 reality on immigration , the country would seem much more left on it. Voters are much more pragmatic than given credit for and if you had an immigration system where:

- Laws and regulations are followed

- It doesnt strain public resources

- doesnt overwhelm demand

- they assimilate to a reasonable degree


people would be pro Immigration. In 2012 we basically had all 4 which is why the country was more pro immigration. Now we dont have any which is why the public moved to the right on the issue

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« Reply #4034 on: November 05, 2024, 10:14:44 PM »

HAHAHAHA

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« Reply #4035 on: November 05, 2024, 10:14:57 PM »

Every state is slipping away in the needle. Still "possible" but no reason for optimism.
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« Reply #4036 on: November 05, 2024, 10:14:59 PM »

If Dems fall to 47 or 46 seats in the senate, I fail to see how we get back into the majority even after a good midterm in 2026 and a Dem victory in 2028.
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« Reply #4037 on: November 05, 2024, 10:15:08 PM »

There is a very real possibility that we are heading towards the funniest scenario.
270-268 Harris EV win - Trump PV win
Yes. The election isn't over yet.
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« Reply #4038 on: November 05, 2024, 10:15:15 PM »


     I was expecting this. Casey wasn't running far enough ahead of Harris to survive a major right-wing lurch by the state of PA. If this holds, what an end it will be for the Casey Dynasty.
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« Reply #4039 on: November 05, 2024, 10:15:15 PM »

WYA COCKY LIBS?

wbrock, u still here?
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« Reply #4040 on: November 05, 2024, 10:15:22 PM »

Looks like we might be heading for something we never thought possible in as recently as a week ago:

A Trump popular vote win
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« Reply #4041 on: November 05, 2024, 10:15:29 PM »

I'm saying again what I said before and just told my wife as well: Imagine going back to January 7, 2021, and telling your former self this would happen. And no, Biden didn't have a scandal, didn't preside over a recession and he didn't get us to war either. But Trump meanwhile has been convicted of 34 felony chanrges and is under multiple indictments. That's how low we have sunk.

This is beyond insane.

It's not insane if you look at it that 2020 was the anomaly, not 2016.

I thought looking at election night results in 2020 that Trump would run again and win.

Democrats ran America badly for 4 years, so it wasn't a surprise in the end.

The persecution of Trump also rubbed badly, very badly. Biden fell behind in the polling the day Trump was indictied.
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« Reply #4042 on: November 05, 2024, 10:15:33 PM »

The Democrats are a pathetic party. They ran a fine campaign, but they time in office was a complete joke. These four years have been so pathetic and underwhelming that no solid campaign could recover from that. That is on Biden, that is on Pelosi and the House, and that is on the Senators. They wasted these years, and have given voters nothing to believe in. Absolutely ridiculous, and they all deserve to have their legacies tarnished forever for this.

They did a lot. Biden and the administration just weren't good enough at selling their accomplishments.
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« Reply #4043 on: November 05, 2024, 10:15:59 PM »

Remember how right wing twitter was relentless mocked for saying that Virginia might be in play? With the early voting data showing how energized the rural areas were?

I called this. People laughed.
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« Reply #4044 on: November 05, 2024, 10:16:09 PM »

Can we now all agree that the Liz (+Dick) Cheney endorsement tour was pointless at best and actively destructive at worst?
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« Reply #4045 on: November 05, 2024, 10:16:15 PM »



Wow! Means that probably 1 of 4 Black men voted Trump.

Diversity Candidate!
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« Reply #4046 on: November 05, 2024, 10:16:16 PM »

this was ****ING OBVIOUS to anyone that wanted to look

never in history has an incumbent party not gotten destroyed when their sititng president has 40% approval

dems dont care about logic though, they just stick their heads in the sand. thanks for your money on polymarket.
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« Reply #4047 on: November 05, 2024, 10:16:19 PM »


Talk about premature celebration.
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« Reply #4048 on: November 05, 2024, 10:16:20 PM »

The Democrats are a pathetic party. They ran a fine campaign, but they time in office was a complete joke. These four years have been so pathetic and underwhelming that no solid campaign could recover from that. That is on Biden, that is on Pelosi and the House, and that is on the Senators. They wasted these years, and have given voters nothing to believe in. Absolutely ridiculous, and they all deserve to have their legacies tarnished forever for this.

They did a lot. Biden and the administration just weren't good enough at selling their accomplishments.
That would strengthen the Poppy Bush comparison if so.
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« Reply #4049 on: November 05, 2024, 10:16:22 PM »

Looks like we might be heading for something we never thought possible in as recently as a week ago:

A Trump popular vote win

Yup. I wonder whether he can surpass W's vote share of 2004 at 50.7%?
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