Ireland General Discussion

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Any chance the government falls?

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Could the Greens do what Labour did and switch coalitions?

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So, what are the chances that the Government holds together for the Dáil's full term?

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So, this government can be called Epic Fáil, then?

Has been for over a year.

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A FG-Lab coalition would now be a grand coalition.

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I have a question: Is there much of a libertarian movement in Ireland?

There isn't much of a "libertarian movement" anywhere, certainly not in Europe. The liberal Progressive Democrats were the closest thing to it, but they disbanded last year.

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I have a question: Is there much of a libertarian movement in Ireland?

No. Don't be silly. The PDs can't be seen as libertarian either - they introduced the minimum wage for a start. They are really more of a right-wing liberal party. Libertarianism would do even worse than Trotskyism here; I can't think of any one natural constituency for it (Except Rich Nerds under the age of 30, perhaps?).

Trotskyism does pretty well in Dublin, doesn't it? Or is that just the electoral system at work?

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Guess who's back!

Yes side guarantees 'meaningless' - Ganley

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Guess who's back!

Yes side guarantees 'meaningless' - Ganley

Is he done crying after his epic fail in June?

Apparently. Now all we need is Lech Wałęsa.

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So, then, what are the cahnces of an election being called in the next week?

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Can the Dáil force out cabinet members, or was the vote of confidence simply advisory?

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Can the Dáil force out cabinet members, or was the vote of confidence simply advisory?

Good question - I'm not sure.

I'm not aware of a motion of confidence against an individual Minister having ever been won by the opposition. Though politically, the position of any such Minister would presumably be untenable, constitutionally, Ministers serve at the pleasure of the Taoiseach.

It may be complicated depending on whether one considers the confidence motion to indicate that the Taoiseach has lost majority support in the Dáil...

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Ah, I see. Votes of confidence on ministers are something that I've only heard of in Weimar.

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Would Fine Gael be willing to be a junior coalition partner to Labour if such a situation were to arise?

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This happened without controversy in Ireland of all places? Interesting.

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It doesn't look like the government can last until Christmas.

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Would you be happier with a military coup?

In most countries, this is precisely what would happen now.

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Would Labour-SF be possible, even if the numbers were there? I'm not sure how the other parties in the Republic treat Sinn Féin. It would of course be very interesting to see Provisional Sinn Féin join a government headed by a member of Official Sinn Féin.

Labour?

I thought Irish Labour was hovering around 10% each election and was very weak outside its strong areas.

Something happened to them to be popular lately?

They've been polling very well for a long time. It's the same thing that has happened in many countries: Fianna Fáil is very unpopular, but FIne Gael has not done a good job in opposition.

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Sinn Féin ahead of Fianna Fáil...wow.

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Didn't Lucinda Creighton also say she would resign if she weren't promoted to the frontbench in the next government?

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Also, "justice, equality and defence"?

As I recall, Defence is mandated by the Constitution, but it's not important enough to warrant its own portfolio. Hence this.

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I for one am caught completely unawares by these accusations.

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What of Senate reform?

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Oh, yes, watching Dick Roche go down last time was hilarious.

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Amazing.

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politicalreform.ie seat projection:

FF 56
FG 44
SF 28
Ind/Oth 20
Lab 10

On these numbers, a grand coalition would seem to be the only viable prospect.