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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2007, 04:24:44 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2007, 09:54:53 PM »
Quote from: 24 DuPont Chevrolet on August 09, 2007, 03:55:27 PM
Nay, we should be making a path to citizenship harder not easier.  It also opens up the door to things being legalized by an incredible radical senate in the future to allow illegals to gain citizenship

This shouldn't affect it one way or the other. It is only affecting a technicality in the application process. If an Atlasian citizen committed a crime and the act was decriminalized, then that person should be pardoned. This should not be a reward for breaking the law, only not punishing someone from breaking what is no longer law.

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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2007, 08:11:50 AM »
Quote from: Senator Brandon H on August 09, 2007, 09:54:53 PM
Quote from: 24 DuPont Chevrolet on August 09, 2007, 03:55:27 PM
Nay, we should be making a path to citizenship harder not easier.  It also opens up the door to things being legalized by an incredible radical senate in the future to allow illegals to gain citizenship

This shouldn't affect it one way or the other. It is only affecting a technicality in the application process. If an Atlasian citizen committed a crime and the act was decriminalized, then that person should be pardoned. This should not be a reward for breaking the law, only not punishing someone from breaking what is no longer law.

Aye.
I disagree, they committed a crime and broke our countries law, therefore I do not favor granting them citizenship even if we decriminallized it.
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2007, 08:31:38 AM »
Current Tally on Brandon's Amendment
Aye: 5 (Sam; Lewis; Phil; Ebowed; Brandon)
Nay: 1 (DWTL)
Absent: 3 (Al; Earl; PBrunsel)
Yet to Vote: 1 (Rob)
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2007, 01:26:38 PM »
Quote from: 24 DuPont Chevrolet on August 10, 2007, 08:11:50 AM
Quote from: Senator Brandon H on August 09, 2007, 09:54:53 PM
Quote from: 24 DuPont Chevrolet on August 09, 2007, 03:55:27 PM
Nay, we should be making a path to citizenship harder not easier.  It also opens up the door to things being legalized by an incredible radical senate in the future to allow illegals to gain citizenship

This shouldn't affect it one way or the other. It is only affecting a technicality in the application process. If an Atlasian citizen committed a crime and the act was decriminalized, then that person should be pardoned. This should not be a reward for breaking the law, only not punishing someone from breaking what is no longer law.

Aye.
I disagree, they committed a crime and broke our countries law, therefore I do not favor granting them citizenship even if we decriminallized it.

That has been my stance on this issue, too. I misread the amendment.



I change my vote to Nay.
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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2007, 09:30:15 PM »
When a minor crime is decriminalized, people in jail have their sentences removed or reduced.  Why would we apply a different standard to immigrants?
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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2007, 06:46:09 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2007, 06:30:12 AM »
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2007, 11:14:52 AM »
With 6 votes in favor, 2 against and 2 not voting, the amendment has passed.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2007, 12:23:45 PM »
As 24 hours have passed since debate concluded and no other amendments have been presented on the floor, we are now voting on final passage of the legislation under consideration:


2nd Immigration Reform Bill of 2007

1. The Illegal Immigrant Act (F.L. 18-8) is hereby repealed.

2. Illegal aliens who have been convicted of a state or federal offense and sentenced to a term of imprisonment less than 12 months in duration within the last 5 years of their application shall be denied citizenship in all instances, even if their application is presently pending under the auspices of F.L. 18-8.  This shall not apply to persons imprisoned for actions which have since become decriminalized.

3. Illegal aliens who have been convicted of a state or federal offense and sentenced to a term of imprisonment less than 12 months in duration not within the last 5 years of their application whose application is presently pending under the auspices of F.L. 18-8 shall be allowed to become citizens, if meeting the separate requirements of all other relevant legislation.

4. Illegal or legal aliens who have become citizens because of changes in the law effectuated by F.L. 18-8 shall not have their citizenship revoked.

Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.


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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2007, 01:02:40 PM »
Aye

I still an not happy with this bill, it is still amnesty
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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2007, 02:11:10 PM »
I proudly vote aye for this bill! Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2007, 03:09:18 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2007, 03:48:41 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2007, 05:53:23 PM »
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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2007, 07:22:03 PM »
Not perfect, but an improvement over what we have now.

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« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2007, 08:57:23 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2007, 06:35:17 AM »
Nay.
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2007, 11:18:00 AM »
Tally on Final Vote
Aye: 4 (Sam; DWTL; PBrunsel; Brandon)
Nay: 5 (Earl; Phil; Ebowed; Al; Rob)
Yet to Vote: 1 (Lewis)
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« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2007, 01:59:44 PM »
Nay.
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« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2007, 02:02:54 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2007, 02:12:04 PM by Sam Spade »
With 4 votes in favor and 6 votes against, this bill has failed.
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