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« on: August 19, 2024, 12:49:41 PM »

If Cuomo doesn't run for Governor he should run for NY-11.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2024, 01:21:14 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2024, 01:32:37 PM »

Why?
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2024, 01:45:41 PM »

His current registered voting address is located within NY-16 instead of NY-11. On that basis, I don't think his ties with NY-11 would be regarded as sufficient.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2024, 01:53:57 PM »

His current registered voting address is located within NY-16 instead of NY-11. On that basis, I don't think his ties with NY-11 would be regarded as sufficient.
He won States Island every time he ran and he just needs to lose it by 8 to win the District,he can do it,DCCC should talk to him.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2024, 02:02:07 PM »

His current registered voting address is located within NY-16 instead of NY-11. On that basis, I don't think his ties with NY-11 would be regarded as sufficient.
He won States Island every time he ran and he just needs to lose it by 8 to win the District,he can do it,DCCC should talk to him.

You’re forgetting the crucial piece that democrats don’t want him. The Cuomo name is mud.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2024, 02:03:16 PM »

His current registered voting address is located within NY-16 instead of NY-11. On that basis, I don't think his ties with NY-11 would be regarded as sufficient.
He won States Island every time he ran and he just needs to lose it by 8 to win the District,he can do it,DCCC should talk to him.

You’re forgetting the crucial piece that democrats don’t want him. The Cuomo name is mud.
Yes his stupid Judges that strucked down the hochulmander,but if he flips NY-11 i might forgive him for that.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2024, 02:10:18 PM »

Also Malliotakis is not a weak incumbent. It's certainly not impossible that she loses in a blue wave year, but she wouldn't lose against someone as damaged as Cuomo.
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2024, 02:14:33 PM »

Also Malliotakis is not a weak incumbent. It's certainly not impossible that she loses in a blue wave year, but she wouldn't lose against someone as damaged as Cuomo.
Cuomo was always strong in SI and Southern Brooklyn,his weakness is in Upstate New York.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2024, 02:17:24 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2024, 02:20:29 PM by Roll Roons »

Also Malliotakis is not a weak incumbent. It's certainly not impossible that she loses in a blue wave year, but she wouldn't lose against someone as damaged as Cuomo.
Cuomo was always strong in SI and Southern Brooklyn,his weakness is in Upstate New York.

That was before he killed nursing home residents, covered up their deaths and got accused of sexual harassment. Had he run for reelection in 2022 and made it past the primary, he would have gotten crushed in these areas just like Hochul did.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2024, 03:03:47 PM »

His current registered voting address is located within NY-16 instead of NY-11. On that basis, I don't think his ties with NY-11 would be regarded as sufficient.
He won States Island every time he ran and he just needs to lose it by 8 to win the District,he can do it,DCCC should talk to him.

You’re forgetting the crucial piece that democrats don’t want him. The Cuomo name is mud.
Yes his stupid Judges that strucked down the hochulmander,but if he flips NY-11 i might forgive him for that.

?? That’s not why people dislike him? Did you forget the whole sexual harassment and COVID coverup?
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2024, 11:20:05 PM »

His current registered voting address is located within NY-16 instead of NY-11. On that basis, I don't think his ties with NY-11 would be regarded as sufficient.
He won States Island every time he ran and he just needs to lose it by 8 to win the District,he can do it,DCCC should talk to him.

That was before all his baggage - at this point, running Cuomo would be a redux of Max Rose 2022 (on paper a decent candidate - although Cuomo is far from it atp - who still fails miserably). Also, it seems that Staten Island's trending pretty hard right. Zeldin literally took 2/3 of the vote.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2024, 11:21:40 PM »

Also Malliotakis is not a weak incumbent. It's certainly not impossible that she loses in a blue wave year, but she wouldn't lose against someone as damaged as Cuomo.

Imho Malliotakis would hold on even in a big blue wave, tbh. Staten Island seems to be trending right and is fairly reliably Republican.

Katko held on in 2018 in a far more Democratic district than Malliotakis'.

Only combination where NY-11 would be flippable is if it's an open seat in a blue wave year.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2024, 11:27:13 PM »

I basically don't think NY-11 is a winnable seat for Dems anymore unless there is a very extreme circumstance - Cuomo wouldn't be enough. NY Dems have become toxic for this type of place.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2024, 01:18:49 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2024, 10:40:57 AM »

No. NY-11 was still considered a swing district when Rose won it in 2018, with Trump’s 2016 win being seen as a one-off at the time due to Hillary’s unpopularity.
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2024, 12:36:47 PM »

The allegtions against Cuomo were complete BS,same with Al Franken.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2024, 12:34:27 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2024, 12:50:02 PM by Pump for Trump! »

Cuomo was a political "swamp creature" long before COVID. He dissolved the Moreland Commission as soon as they started looking into him instead of just focusing on his opponents. He supported the Independent Democratic Caucus in the State Senate, a splinter party group used to maintain Republican dominance of the state senate long after Democrats had started receiving majorities of both votes and seats. I've never voted for him and never will.
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2024, 12:28:20 PM »

Cuomo was political "swamp creature" long before COVID. He dissolved the Moreland Commission as soon as they started looking into him instead of just focusing on his opponents. He Supported the Independent Democratic Caucus in the State Senate, a splinter party group used to maintain Republican dominance of the state senate long after Democrats had started receiving majorities of both votes and seats. I've never voted for him and never will.
Frankly I think it's very stupid for NYGOP to force Cuomo to resign. It's much better for them to make deals with him and save him. With Cuomo in governor mansion, he would keep damage NYDEM, and has to rely on NYGOP to hold on.
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2024, 12:31:12 PM »

Cuomo was political "swamp creature" long before COVID. He dissolved the Moreland Commission as soon as they started looking into him instead of just focusing on his opponents. He Supported the Independent Democratic Caucus in the State Senate, a splinter party group used to maintain Republican dominance of the state senate long after Democrats had started receiving majorities of both votes and seats. I've never voted for him and never will.
Frankly I think it's very stupid for NYGOP to force Cuomo to resign. It's much better for them to make deals with him and save him. With Cuomo in governor mansion, he would keep damage NYDEM, and has to rely on NYGOP to hold on.

He probably would have lost the primary if he didn’t resign/retire.
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2024, 12:36:37 PM »

Cuomo was political "swamp creature" long before COVID. He dissolved the Moreland Commission as soon as they started looking into him instead of just focusing on his opponents. He Supported the Independent Democratic Caucus in the State Senate, a splinter party group used to maintain Republican dominance of the state senate long after Democrats had started receiving majorities of both votes and seats. I've never voted for him and never will.
Frankly I think it's very stupid for NYGOP to force Cuomo to resign. It's much better for them to make deals with him and save him. With Cuomo in governor mansion, he would keep damage NYDEM, and has to rely on NYGOP to hold on.
NYGOP should help him win the primary, like Dems did for numerous horrible R candidates.
He probably would have lost the primary if he didn’t resign/retire.
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2024, 12:45:23 PM »

If I wanted to vote for a Republican I'd vote for Malliotakis.
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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2024, 03:55:15 PM »

Update: Trump won NY-11 by 25, making it redder than ID-02, UT-01, UT-02 and UT-03.

This district is as gone for Democrats as rural Arkansas and in hindsight, Rose winning in 2018 was a complete fluke in a way that almost no other Democratic flip from that cycle was.
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2024, 04:01:15 PM »

Update: Trump won NY-11 by 25, making it redder than ID-02, UT-01, UT-02 and UT-03.

This district is as gone for Democrats as rural Arkansas and in hindsight, Rose winning in 2018 was a complete fluke in a way that almost no other Democratic flip from that cycle was.

Not even the South Florida seats, Joe Cunningham, or Abby Finkenauer?

Also, Trump won the Hochulmandered version of this seat by 5.
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« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2024, 07:48:38 PM »

Update: Trump won NY-11 by 25, making it redder than ID-02, UT-01, UT-02 and UT-03.

This district is as gone for Democrats as rural Arkansas and in hindsight, Rose winning in 2018 was a complete fluke in a way that almost no other Democratic flip from that cycle was.

Not even the South Florida seats, Joe Cunningham, or Abby Finkenauer?

Yes.

-FL-26 and FL-27 were quite blue on the presidential level in 2016. This, plus the Democrats' ballot harvesting operation, also explains CA-21.
-SC-01 was clearly trending left, given its significant 2016-2020 swing. Same with OK-05.
-IA-01 is not actually that red. Trump only won it this year by 8, but Hinson's strength makes it look redder than it actually is.

So considering all that, NY-11 stands out.
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