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« on: July 25, 2024, 10:50:34 PM »

Who wins White men born 1997-2006?
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2024, 11:19:05 PM »

It'll be impossible to know how they truly voted in 2020 and how they will have voted in 2024 but likely Trump - Gen Z men aren't all that blue to begin with, and so the subset of white men probably lean R, and I think the rise of social media has made this group a bit more rightwing in recent years.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2024, 11:23:10 PM »

Safe R lol. If we’re talking about young whites as a whole, probably Lean D. Young white women have been overwhelmingly D enough to drown out the R men.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2024, 11:25:06 PM »

Safe R lol. If we’re talking about young whites as a whole, probably Lean D. Young white women have been overwhelmingly D enough to drown out the R men.

How big of a gender gap do you’ll think they’ll be? Historically, gender gaps have been pretty small.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2024, 11:33:17 PM »

Trump.

I wonder how Gen Z White women will vote. Will the majority vote for Kamala? It's possible.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2024, 11:44:10 PM »

Trump.

I wonder how Gen Z White women will vote. Will the majority vote for Kamala? It's possible.

Can see like 53-46 or so percentage of Gen Z women honestly.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2024, 01:44:55 PM »

If this election is truly a referendum on Christian nationalism, how could such a secular demographic vote for Trump?
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2024, 01:46:42 PM »

If this election is truly a referendum on Christian nationalism, how could such a secular demographic vote for Trump?

Huh Trump took anti-abortion and traditional marriage out of the party platform. Yes, picking Vance brings such issues in the forefront, but it's not like the ticket is a unified message advocating Christian nationalism, which I'm still not 100% sure what it entails yet.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2024, 01:49:11 PM »

Trump.

I wonder how Gen Z White women will vote. Will the majority vote for Kamala? It's possible.

Can see like 53-46 or so percentage of Gen Z women honestly.
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If Harris is only getting 53% with Gen Z women, it’s gonna be a 1984 lmao.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2024, 01:53:38 PM »

Trump.

I wonder how Gen Z White women will vote. Will the majority vote for Kamala? It's possible.

Can see like 53-46 or so percentage of Gen Z women honestly.
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If Harris is only getting 53% with Gen Z women, it’s gonna be a 1984 lmao.

Gen Z women aren't very politically engaged or invested in my experience, compared to Millenial women. A lot of the Gen Z women I've encountered on social media just don't seem into politics, and the ones that are have really weird views like anarcho communism, or just don't care for our system to be invested in it.
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2024, 02:06:42 PM »

Trump.

I wonder how Gen Z White women will vote. Will the majority vote for Kamala? It's possible.

Can see like 53-46 or so percentage of Gen Z women honestly.
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If Harris is only getting 53% with Gen Z women, it’s gonna be a 1984 lmao.

Gen Z women aren't very politically engaged or invested in my experience, compared to Millenial women. A lot of the Gen Z women I've encountered on social media just don't seem into politics, and the ones that are have really weird views like anarcho communism, or just don't care for our system to be invested in it.
Huh??
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2024, 03:58:42 PM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2024, 04:29:04 PM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2024, 04:30:34 PM »
« Edited: July 26, 2024, 04:37:39 PM by TheReckoning »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.

Fifty point gender gap amongst Non-white Gen Z’s? Sixty for white Gen Z’s? That’s insane.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2024, 06:22:37 PM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.

Fifty point gender gap amongst Non-white Gen Z’s? Sixty for white Gen Z’s? That’s insane.
And yet entirely believable.
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2024, 06:26:03 PM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.

Fifty point gender gap amongst Non-white Gen Z’s? Sixty for white Gen Z’s? That’s insane.
And yet entirely believable.

Gender gaps have historically been pretty small. 50-60 points would be crazy, not to mention the craziness of men of color voting to the right of white woman.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2024, 06:32:03 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2024, 09:41:14 PM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.
Gen Z males are more conservative than Millenial males? I guess I could see it, just weird lol. That goes aganist the demographics narrative of the last 20 years
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2024, 09:51:16 PM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.
Gen Z males are more conservative than Millenial males? I guess I could see it, just weird lol. That goes aganist the demographics narrative of the last 20 years

I’d be shocked if Republicans got more than 5% among non-white female Gen Zers
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2024, 09:56:16 PM »

I’d be shocked if Republicans got more than 5% among non-white female Gen Zers

I suppose they will thanks to both Trump voting Gen Z hispanic and asian woman and low turnout by lefty Gem Z woman in general.
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2024, 12:02:56 AM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.
Gen Z males are more conservative than Millenial males? I guess I could see it, just weird lol. That goes aganist the demographics narrative of the last 20 years

I’d be shocked if Republicans got more than 5% among non-white female Gen Zers

They certainly get above 5% - my guess would be more like 80D - 15R in a normal election.
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2024, 12:11:03 AM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.
Gen Z males are more conservative than Millenial males? I guess I could see it, just weird lol. That goes aganist the demographics narrative of the last 20 years

I’d be shocked if Republicans got more than 5% among non-white female Gen Zers

They certainly get above 5% - my guess would be more like 80D - 15R in a normal election.

Hmm idk, black women are 99% D or something and Hispanic women when they vote are basically the entire reason Hispanics lean solidly D.

On another note, our original bet is off now that Biden dropped out, but I’m happy to bet on Trump winning NC-01 by over 5% if you are willing to take that replacement offer. $20?
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2024, 12:11:29 AM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.

You think Trump will win 65% of white Gen Z men?
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2024, 12:14:42 AM »

Just for clarification, Gen Z White women =/= Gen Z women.

Still, though. In a competitive election, I see Gen Z probably being similar to millennials, about 60-40.
For Millennials, I can see white men being 60-40 R and white women being 60-40D. It' probably more like 35-65 R and 65-35 D for white gen Zers. For non-white gen zers, I could see something like 55-45 D for men and like 80-20 D for non-white women.

If Harris loses anything other than white men for voters under 44, she will lose.
Gen Z males are more conservative than Millenial males? I guess I could see it, just weird lol. That goes aganist the demographics narrative of the last 20 years

I’d be shocked if Republicans got more than 5% among non-white female Gen Zers

They certainly get above 5% - my guess would be more like 80D - 15R in a normal election.

Hmm idk, black women are 99% D or something and Hispanic women when they vote are basically the entire reason Hispanics lean solidly D.

On another note, our original bet is off now that Biden dropped out, but I’m happy to bet on Trump winning NC-01 by over 5% if you are willing to take that replacement offer. $20?

Gen Z Hispanics + Asians pretty heavily outnumber Gen Z blacks. Let's just say for argument's sake Gen Z black women vote 100% Dem, then even if Hispanic/Asian Gen Z women vote 80% Dem, that would even out to like 88% Dem at best.

As for the bet let me sleep on it - also for NY-17 would you be willing to do an over/under Kamala + 2 or something?
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2024, 12:21:52 AM »

Hard to tell given the competitiveness of this race, but I am leaning towards Harris winning this demographic group by a tiny margin (i.e. 1-2%).
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