Barack Obama is doomed

[Reaganfan]

Despite a right-wing President, this crap continues with the music with obscene verses and gangster rap.

I don't get what a right-wing President has to do with anything.  Honestly Naso, I don't see how people like you can sleep at night with your fascist ideas of banning what kind of music can be played on some kid's iPod or ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS: YOU BETTER NOT BE WEARING A HOODIE AND COOL SHADES!  If people stopped buying "music with obscene verses and gangster rap" or kids wanted to go see a movie with Alvin and the Chipmunks dressed like they are off to a prom in 1952, then it would all disappear, but it's what other people want to be entertained by... OH WAIT, I'm sorry. I forgot! You believe father knows best when it comes to culture!

Yeah, I do.

Culture is not static - it is subjective - there is no "right" or "wrong", only what you perceive.

Haha...if Obama is the nominee I will love to see how well he does out here in Ohio and down there in ole' Mississippi.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Despite a right-wing President, this crap continues with the music with obscene verses and gangster rap.

I don't get what a right-wing President has to do with anything.  Honestly Naso, I don't see how people like you can sleep at night with your fascist ideas of banning what kind of music can be played on some kid's iPod or ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS: YOU BETTER NOT BE WEARING A HOODIE AND COOL SHADES!  If people stopped buying "music with obscene verses and gangster rap" or kids wanted to go see a movie with Alvin and the Chipmunks dressed like they are off to a prom in 1952, then it would all disappear, but it's what other people want to be entertained by... OH WAIT, I'm sorry. I forgot! You believe father knows best when it comes to culture!

Yeah, I do.

Culture is not static - it is subjective - there is no "right" or "wrong", only what you perceive.

Haha...if Obama is the nominee I will love to see how well he does out here in Ohio and down there in ole' Mississippi.

I don't think any democrat is going to play well in Mississippi - so that's moot, and their reason for not voting for him (based on your premise) says a HELL of a lot more about the voters than him.

[Reaganfan]

Despite a right-wing President, this crap continues with the music with obscene verses and gangster rap.

I don't get what a right-wing President has to do with anything.  Honestly Naso, I don't see how people like you can sleep at night with your fascist ideas of banning what kind of music can be played on some kid's iPod or ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS: YOU BETTER NOT BE WEARING A HOODIE AND COOL SHADES!  If people stopped buying "music with obscene verses and gangster rap" or kids wanted to go see a movie with Alvin and the Chipmunks dressed like they are off to a prom in 1952, then it would all disappear, but it's what other people want to be entertained by... OH WAIT, I'm sorry. I forgot! You believe father knows best when it comes to culture!

Yeah, I do.

Culture is not static - it is subjective - there is no "right" or "wrong", only what you perceive.

Haha...if Obama is the nominee I will love to see how well he does out here in Ohio and down there in ole' Mississippi.

I don't think any democrat is going to play well in Mississippi - so that's moot, and their reason for not voting for him (based on your premise) says a HELL of a lot more about the voters than him.

The fact that he is an inexperienced liberal Senator?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Despite a right-wing President, this crap continues with the music with obscene verses and gangster rap.

I don't get what a right-wing President has to do with anything.  Honestly Naso, I don't see how people like you can sleep at night with your fascist ideas of banning what kind of music can be played on some kid's iPod or ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS: YOU BETTER NOT BE WEARING A HOODIE AND COOL SHADES!  If people stopped buying "music with obscene verses and gangster rap" or kids wanted to go see a movie with Alvin and the Chipmunks dressed like they are off to a prom in 1952, then it would all disappear, but it's what other people want to be entertained by... OH WAIT, I'm sorry. I forgot! You believe father knows best when it comes to culture!

Yeah, I do.

Culture is not static - it is subjective - there is no "right" or "wrong", only what you perceive.

Haha...if Obama is the nominee I will love to see how well he does out here in Ohio and down there in ole' Mississippi.

I don't think any democrat is going to play well in Mississippi - so that's moot, and their reason for not voting for him (based on your premise) says a HELL of a lot more about the voters than him.

The fact that he is an inexperienced liberal Senator?

Don't get me wrong, I have SERIOUS concerns over his experience (which is why he's #4 on my list of running dems). But your premise had nothing to do with his experience or political positions.

[Reaganfan]

Despite a right-wing President, this crap continues with the music with obscene verses and gangster rap.

I don't get what a right-wing President has to do with anything.  Honestly Naso, I don't see how people like you can sleep at night with your fascist ideas of banning what kind of music can be played on some kid's iPod or ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS: YOU BETTER NOT BE WEARING A HOODIE AND COOL SHADES!  If people stopped buying "music with obscene verses and gangster rap" or kids wanted to go see a movie with Alvin and the Chipmunks dressed like they are off to a prom in 1952, then it would all disappear, but it's what other people want to be entertained by... OH WAIT, I'm sorry. I forgot! You believe father knows best when it comes to culture!

Yeah, I do.

Culture is not static - it is subjective - there is no "right" or "wrong", only what you perceive.

Haha...if Obama is the nominee I will love to see how well he does out here in Ohio and down there in ole' Mississippi.

I don't think any democrat is going to play well in Mississippi - so that's moot, and their reason for not voting for him (based on your premise) says a HELL of a lot more about the voters than him.

The fact that he is an inexperienced liberal Senator?

Don't get me wrong, I have SERIOUS concerns over his experience (which is why he's #4 on my list of running dems). But your premise had nothing to do with his experience or political positions.

Of course it did, what else would it be?

[Reluctant Republican]

Wow, she's kinda a MILF. Love the hair.

As for the topic, it's stupid yes, but it brings up a good point. I don't think Obama will play well in middle America. He just came out in favor of sex ed for Kindergartners. I don't have a probelm with this, but I can't imagine that's going to play well to families in this country. I think Hillary will portray herself as possesing "heartland values" and will win the nomination and likely the presidency.

[Eleden]

Despite a right-wing President, this crap continues with the music with obscene verses and gangster rap.

I don't get what a right-wing President has to do with anything.  Honestly Naso, I don't see how people like you can sleep at night with your fascist ideas of banning what kind of music can be played on some kid's iPod or ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS: YOU BETTER NOT BE WEARING A HOODIE AND COOL SHADES!  If people stopped buying "music with obscene verses and gangster rap" or kids wanted to go see a movie with Alvin and the Chipmunks dressed like they are off to a prom in 1952, then it would all disappear, but it's what other people want to be entertained by... OH WAIT, I'm sorry. I forgot!
You believe father knows best when it comes to culture!

You've changed your argument three times.  First it was because of his inexperience, then it was because of black "gangsta rap", and now it's back to his inexperience. 

Yeah, I do.

Culture is not static - it is subjective - there is no "right" or "wrong", only what you perceive.

Haha...if Obama is the nominee I will love to see how well he does out here in Ohio and down there in ole' Mississippi.

I don't think any democrat is going to play well in Mississippi - so that's moot, and their reason for not voting for him (based on your premise) says a HELL of a lot more about the voters than him.

The fact that he is an inexperienced liberal Senator?

Don't get me wrong, I have SERIOUS concerns over his experience (which is why he's #4 on my list of running dems). But your premise had nothing to do with his experience or political positions.

Of course it did, what else would it be?

You've changed your argument three times.  First it was because of his inexperience, then it was because of black "gangsta rap", and now it's back to his inexperience. 

[Reaganfan]

I voted for an African American man last November. It's simple. He's inexperienced and liberal.

[Eleden]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

In my opinion the more experience you have the more corrupt you probably are. 

[Keystone Phil]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

[Reaganfan]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

Can you believe oaksmarts, Phil? He's bashing me for voting for an African American. I believe in equal rights and opportunity...apparently oaksmart is a racist.

[Keystone Phil]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

Can you believe oaksmarts, Phil? He's bashing me for voting for an African American. I believe in equal rights and opportunity...apparently oaksmart is a racist.

Naso, you do say some ridiculous things. I was just pointing out one of oaksmarts' ridiculous comments, not necessarily defending you.

[Reaganfan]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

Can you believe oaksmarts, Phil? He's bashing me for voting for an African American. I believe in equal rights and opportunity...apparently oaksmart is a racist.

Naso, you do say some ridiculous things. I was just pointing out one of oaksmarts' ridiculous comments, not necessarily defending you.

Phil, don't play politics.

[Gabu]

Despite a right-wing President, this crap continues with the music with obscene verses and gangster rap.

Oh yeah...let's elect a black man to the office.........

Remind me how the above is talking about inexperience and liberalism.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

Can you believe oaksmarts, Phil? He's bashing me for voting for an African American. I believe in equal rights and opportunity...apparently oaksmart is a racist.

No you voted for the conservative republican candidate for governor... who happened to be black.

[Eraserhead]

This thread is embarrassing.

By all means let's have the government regulate what kind of clothing the Chipmunks can wear.

[Keystone Phil]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

Can you believe oaksmarts, Phil? He's bashing me for voting for an African American. I believe in equal rights and opportunity...apparently oaksmart is a racist.

No you voted for the conservative republican candidate for governor... who happened to be black.

If the argument was that Naso is truly racist then voting for a black man negates that. Racism is a burning hatred. No one with such hatred could vote for someone they are "supposed to" hate.

[Gabu]

If the argument was that Naso is truly racist then voting for a black man negates that. Racism is a burning hatred. No one with such hatred could vote for someone they are "supposed to" hate.

Who's accused Naso of being racist in this thread?

[Keystone Phil]

If the argument was that Naso is truly racist then voting for a black man negates that. Racism is a burning hatred. No one with such hatred could vote for someone they are "supposed to" hate.

Who's accused Naso of being racist in this thread?

I was following Naso's point about how he voted for a black man last year and assumed people were getting on his case, calling him a racist, because of some of his comments (which many in the past have argued were racist). My mistake.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

Can you believe oaksmarts, Phil? He's bashing me for voting for an African American. I believe in equal rights and opportunity...apparently oaksmart is a racist.

No you voted for the conservative republican candidate for governor... who happened to be black.

If the argument was that Naso is truly racist then voting for a black man negates that. Racism is a burning hatred. No one with such hatred could vote for someone they are "supposed to" hate.

I certianly wasn't saying Naso is a racist. He didn't vote for Blackwell as a black man, he voted for him because he was the conservative republican.

It's a bit like that line out of Cruel Intentions when the very snooty WASP says "Don't give me any of that racist crap, my husband and I gave to Colin Powell"

[Keystone Phil]

I certianly wasn't saying Naso is a racist. He didn't vote for Blackwell as a black man, [quote]

Not that anyone should do that, of course. I don't vote for white candidates because they are white. Blacks shouldn't vote for black candidates simply because they are black.

[Eleden]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

Can you believe oaksmarts, Phil? He's bashing me for voting for an African American. I believe in equal rights and opportunity...apparently oaksmart is a racist.

Oh please.  I wasn't bashing you for voting for an African American, I was bashing you because you made it sound like you voted for him just because he was black.  There's obviously nothing wrong with supporting an African American, but to say that you're such a great person for voting for a black man is ridiculous.  I vote for candidates based on their ideology and stance on the issues, not because of the color of their skin.

[Reaganfan]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

Can you believe oaksmarts, Phil? He's bashing me for voting for an African American. I believe in equal rights and opportunity...apparently oaksmart is a racist.

Oh please.  I wasn't bashing you for voting for an African American, I was bashing you because you made it sound like you voted for him just because he was black.  There's obviously nothing wrong with supporting an African American, but to say that you're such a great person for voting for a black man is ridiculous.  I vote for candidates based on their ideology and stance on the issues, not because of the color of their skin.

So, Senator "Bill" Obama, a 45 year old white man from Illinois, elected in 2004. Would he be running in 2008 for President?

[Keystone Phil]

So, Senator "Bill" Obama, a 45 year old white man from Illinois, elected in 2004. Would he be running in 2008 for President?

Naso, you make an excellent point but if you're going to bring it up, bring it up as a different topic. You're skipping around from one thing to another.

[Eleden]

Yeah and we all know Ken Blackwell was spectacular.  *rolls eyes*

Does that mean he isn't black or something?

Can you believe oaksmarts, Phil? He's bashing me for voting for an African American. I believe in equal rights and opportunity...apparently oaksmart is a racist.

Oh please.  I wasn't bashing you for voting for an African American, I was bashing you because you made it sound like you voted for him just because he was black.  There's obviously nothing wrong with supporting an African American, but to say that you're such a great person for voting for a black man is ridiculous.  I vote for candidates based on their ideology and stance on the issues, not because of the color of their skin.

So, Senator "Bill" Obama, a 45 year old white man from Illinois, elected in 2004. Would he be running in 2008 for President?

Since when did I say I supported Barack Obama because he was black?