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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2024, 08:30:32 PM »

I would be shocked if Biden decided to end his re-election campaign.

I wouldn't be against it but it would still be surprising.
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« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2024, 08:31:39 PM »

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2024, 08:33:33 PM »

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.

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« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2024, 08:34:22 PM »

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent president dropping is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



Exactly. Defcon 4 would be this happening after the convention.
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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2024, 08:36:15 PM »

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



To use a sports analogy, backup quarterbacks have gone on to win the Super Bowl (Tom Brady, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, etc).

Haley was probably right about whichever party sacks Biden/Trump first winning the election. The country is so fed up with both of them that they will simply choose anyone else in a general election IMO
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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2024, 08:37:06 PM »

The article is literally updated with a statement that this is just Biden and his family having an informal short chat. It isn't a formal process, just a normal family discussion for high level politicians.

You guys just jump on any random news. Will he drop out? Not impossible, but it isn't as likely as this article headline makes it sound.
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« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2024, 08:37:26 PM »

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



To use a sports analogy, backup quarterbacks have gone on to win the Super Bowl (Tom Brady, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, etc).

Haley was probably right about whichever party sacks Biden/Trump first winning the election. The country is so fed up with both of them that they will simply choose anyone else in a general election IMO
Harris is as disliked as Biden.
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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2024, 08:38:36 PM »

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



To use a sports analogy, backup quarterbacks have gone on to win the Super Bowl (Tom Brady, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, etc).

Haley was probably right about whichever party sacks Biden/Trump first winning the election. The country is so fed up with both of them that they will simply choose anyone else in a general election IMO
Harris is as disliked as Biden.


You really think Biden is so disliked and we have a tie in natl polls plse
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2024, 08:39:16 PM »

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



To use a sports analogy, backup quarterbacks have gone on to win the Super Bowl (Tom Brady, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, etc).

Haley was probably right about whichever party sacks Biden/Trump first winning the election. The country is so fed up with both of them that they will simply choose anyone else in a general election IMO
Harris is as disliked as Biden.

Harris, simply by not being Biden, is a better candidate than Biden (although not by much)
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« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2024, 08:43:14 PM »

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



To use a sports analogy, backup quarterbacks have gone on to win the Super Bowl (Tom Brady, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, etc).

Haley was probably right about whichever party sacks Biden/Trump first winning the election. The country is so fed up with both of them that they will simply choose anyone else in a general election IMO

I have my doubts on Harris. Whom if Biden drops out, we'll be the top of ticket. No way she isn't. What would be her incentive to step aside? Be VEEP again?!?

If Biden steps down, he'll be viewed as a one term forgettable failure. Like Ford.

It already probably pissed him off that he received the job he's always wanted his entire adult life, senile but it will enrage that he had to step down (and not by choice). He would know he was pushed out. He's old... not stupid. I also wonder how the nation is going to react to the DNC as a whole. If he steps down, they lied to us FOR YEARS.
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« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2024, 08:44:55 PM »

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



But your former president being convicted of 34 felonies related to cheating on his pregnant wife with a porn star, and found liable for sexual abuse, is just a boring old Tuesday am I right?

There won’t be any escaping this by pointing limply and saying “See! The Democrats actually got rid of their extremely unpopular nominee and are giving you voters what you want! Now vote for the psychopathic fascist or die!”

The only thing you had going for you was Biden was just that unpopular. That’s gone now. (If he does drop out.) Always said the party that played game theory and picked the new candidate would win. If both did or didn’t, could have been close. But if only one does it won’t be.
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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2024, 08:47:27 PM »

This is false.

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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2024, 08:48:18 PM »
« Edited: June 29, 2024, 08:51:42 PM by Progressive Pessimist »

This is false.



This being a headline already put out there for as long as it is, certainly isn't good news for the campaign either. The rock and hard place just keep getting harder and sharper.

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



To use a sports analogy, backup quarterbacks have gone on to win the Super Bowl (Tom Brady, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, etc).

Haley was probably right about whichever party sacks Biden/Trump first winning the election. The country is so fed up with both of them that they will simply choose anyone else in a general election IMO

I have my doubts on Harris. Whom if Biden drops out, we'll be the top of ticket. No way she isn't. What would be her incentive to step aside? Be VEEP again?!?

If Biden steps down, he'll be viewed as a one term forgettable failure. Like Ford.

It already probably pissed him off that he received the job he's always wanted his entire adult life, senile but it will enrage that he had to step down (and not by choice). He would know he was pushed out. He's old... not stupid. I also wonder how the nation is going to react to the DNC as a whole. If he steps down, they lied to us FOR YEARS.

No. The DNC is merely doubling down on the fact that Trump is a severe danger to the world, and so much is riding on this election. They tried making this point for over a year with affirmative means of promoting Biden too, and Americans haven't been biting even after convictions, indictments, and ambitions of an outright dictatorship. They, more than anyone keep harping on how they want "someone new." They're full of s*** and impossible to please if they're suddenly upset when they're given exactly that!
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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2024, 08:53:24 PM »

This is false.



This being a headline already put out there for as long as it is, certainly isn't good news for the campaign either. The rock and hard place just keep getting harder and sharper.

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



To use a sports analogy, backup quarterbacks have gone on to win the Super Bowl (Tom Brady, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, etc).

Haley was probably right about whichever party sacks Biden/Trump first winning the election. The country is so fed up with both of them that they will simply choose anyone else in a general election IMO

I have my doubts on Harris. Whom if Biden drops out, we'll be the top of ticket. No way she isn't. What would be her incentive to step aside? Be VEEP again?!?

If Biden steps down, he'll be viewed as a one term forgettable failure. Like Ford.

It already probably pissed him off that he received the job he's always wanted his entire adult life, senile but it will enrage that he had to step down (and not by choice). He would know he was pushed out. He's old... not stupid. I also wonder how the nation is going to react to the DNC as a whole. If he steps down, they lied to us FOR YEARS.

No. The DNC is merely doubling down on the fact that Trump is a severe danger to the world, and so much is riding on this election. They tried making this point for over a year with affirmative means of promoting Biden too, and Americans haven't been biting even after convictions, indictments, and ambitions of an outright dictatorship. They, more than anyone keep harping on how they want "someone new." They're full of s*** and impossible to please if they're suddenly upset when they're given exactly that!


To me if it really comes to this point, if Biden is now deemed too old and is mentally declining to run for reelection... how could they (Biden/MSM) effectively make the case he should stay in office?
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« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2024, 08:55:48 PM »

This is false.



Someone in Biden’s camp denying it publicly does not mean it isn’t true.

I swear do NONE of you all follow things like football and basketball? Everyone knows the last thing a coach says publicly before he’s about to leave is that he’ll stick with this program for the rest of his life.
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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2024, 08:55:49 PM »

This is false.



Denied, not debunked. Of course they won't say he's dropping out until he actually does it.
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« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2024, 08:57:03 PM »

"Family Meetings" involving an embattled public official and their families generally end up in the family pushing the embattled official to stand firm and fight.

In 1952, it was Nixon's wife who told him to stand firm in the face of the corruption allegations of a Secret Nixon Fund from millionaires.  He made the Checkers Speech and savaged his candidacy.  When Democrats combed the Checkers Speech in 1968 for hot nuggets, they found nothing to use against Nixon.

In Joseph Persico's book "CASEY", he reveals that it was Casey's wife that bucked him up when he was under fire during his confirmation for being the SEC Chairman in 1971.  In 1981, it was Casey's family and friends that bucked him up when there were attempts from within the Administration to drive him out of office.

In 1974, it was Tricia Nixon and her husband, Edward Cox, that bucked up Nixon the most.  His entire family backed him to the end.  Cox even attended meetings and questioned whether it was actually true that if he didn't resign, there would be a debacle in the midterm elections.  

Bill Clinton's wife, the one he cheated on, pushed him to fight impeachment.

Trump's family have pushed him to fight at every turn.

What the Biden Family likely doesn't want is for Joe to quit because it will make the allegations against all of THEM seem true.  It's a matter of honor and pride and image.  I guarantee that this "Family Discussion" will result in a new resolve to remain in the race.  It usually goes that way, surprisingly.  Political families are tough, and they don't want to be disgraced because of something the Family Pol does, so they'll fight to the hilt.
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« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2024, 08:57:09 PM »

This is false.



This being a headline already put out there for as long as it is, certainly isn't good news for the campaign either. The rock and hard place just keep getting harder and sharper.

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.
Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.



To use a sports analogy, backup quarterbacks have gone on to win the Super Bowl (Tom Brady, Jeff Hostetler, Nick Foles, etc).

Haley was probably right about whichever party sacks Biden/Trump first winning the election. The country is so fed up with both of them that they will simply choose anyone else in a general election IMO

I have my doubts on Harris. Whom if Biden drops out, we'll be the top of ticket. No way she isn't. What would be her incentive to step aside? Be VEEP again?!?

If Biden steps down, he'll be viewed as a one term forgettable failure. Like Ford.

It already probably pissed him off that he received the job he's always wanted his entire adult life, senile but it will enrage that he had to step down (and not by choice). He would know he was pushed out. He's old... not stupid. I also wonder how the nation is going to react to the DNC as a whole. If he steps down, they lied to us FOR YEARS.

No. The DNC is merely doubling down on the fact that Trump is a severe danger to the world, and so much is riding on this election. They tried making this point for over a year with affirmative means of promoting Biden too, and Americans haven't been biting even after convictions, indictments, and ambitions of an outright dictatorship. They, more than anyone keep harping on how they want "someone new." They're full of s*** and impossible to please if they're suddenly upset when they're given exactly that!


To me if it really comes to this point, if Biden is now deemed too old and is mentally declining to run for reelection... how could they (Biden/MSM) effectively make the case he should stay in office?

It's no different to me than if Biden was a lame duck, finishing his limited term.

This is a political calculation, not an actual health or competency one. Biden is surrounded by professionals and staffers who are the ones who really do the job. It's an unprecedented circumstance, for sure, but I really don't think most Americans will care (who aren't Republicans) as long as a government shutdown, or something doesn't happen.
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« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2024, 08:57:23 PM »

r/neoliberal is discussing this article and they sound totally Blue MAGA in the comments. Saying no way Biden should withdraw because it would be “the ultimate expression of failure and weakness,” calling NBC “fake news” because of phony Chuck Todd and Kristen Welker… These people have gone insane. How can they not see the irony???
LMAO, I just checked out that thread, and that redditor you're referring to just edited his post to call you out. Any guesses about who his Atlas account is? DrScholl? Mr. X? Landslide Lyndon?
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« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2024, 08:58:18 PM »

If he does drop out, he might as well stepdown as the POTUS as well. America is very vulnerable until January 2025 as the whole world witnessed him implode and enemies of America would take advantage and have us caught off guard.
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« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2024, 08:58:51 PM »

Denial?

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« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2024, 09:00:24 PM »
« Edited: June 29, 2024, 09:04:35 PM by Alben Barkley »

r/neoliberal is discussing this article and they sound totally Blue MAGA in the comments. Saying no way Biden should withdraw because it would be “the ultimate expression of failure and weakness,” calling NBC “fake news” because of phony Chuck Todd and Kristen Welker… These people have gone insane. How can they not see the irony???
LMAO, I just checked out that thread, and that redditor you're referring to just edited his post to call you out. Any guesses about who his Atlas account is? DrScholl? Mr. X? Landslide Lyndon?

Lololol

Does it get more meta than a commenter commenting on a comment from another site only for that commenter to comment on that other site’s comment?

Anyway, could it be wbrocks67?
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« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2024, 09:01:14 PM »

My opinion on the Biden campaign tweet: They want to pretend the talk isn't happening, so they use the WH schedule to act like it was happening the whole time, but they can talk about anything

I think they don't want any chance of anyone thinking it is over until it is over (if he does drop out), therefore try to spin it. It doesn't refute it
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« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2024, 09:01:33 PM »

Everyone who doesn't like Biden is leaking sh**t to try and force him out. This is pretty standard. You can't trust anything that doesn't come from the campaign.
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« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2024, 09:02:09 PM »

Denial?



Just because it was confirmed they were going to Camp David in advance does not mean it was confirmed what they’d be discussing when there in advance. Notice all the denials only point out that first part.

Also how can they not see that one of the country’s biggest news networks announcing to the world that Biden is at least considering dropping out is a real bad look regardless? If you have to deny something like that it’s BAD.
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