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« on: June 21, 2024, 05:51:21 AM »

I think it's a Freedom Movement. While I think it's very unproductive to withhold your vote from Biden in the hopes that he'll stop supporting Israel, they're still calling attention to a genocide that American civilians are supporting with our tax dollars. You might disagree with their tactics, but ask yourself why you feel that way.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2024, 07:29:02 AM »

Supporting it is bare minimum basic human decency
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2024, 08:11:12 AM »

Grotesque.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2024, 09:04:55 AM »

Supporting it is bare minimum basic human decency

Supporting radical Islamic terrorists is not human decency.

Neither is supporting the war crimes of the Netanyahu government.

No side should be trusted in this conflict.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2024, 10:45:17 AM »

Good movement with some real cringe elements
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2024, 11:26:08 AM »

Awful movement that keeps ruining an eminently justifiable cause.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2024, 12:14:26 PM »

Massive HP and useful idiots for Islamists
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2024, 12:31:03 PM »
« Edited: June 21, 2024, 12:35:30 PM by Vice President Christian Man »

Let me preference by saying that I think that there's a difference between those who see what's going on in Israel and thinks it's a misjustice, and those who chant "Death to America" and "Gas the Jews". The people in the first group reminds me a bit of the people who were "anti-American" during the War on Terror and are mainly anti-Bibi. I doubt that many of them would support the total abolishment of Israel. At worst they are misguided and they don't consider the harm that a nation aligned with Syria/Iran would cause to our allies. The later group is completely unhinged and has grown louder over the last couple of weeks.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2024, 02:27:47 PM »

Let me preference by saying that I think that there's a difference between those who see what's going on in Israel and thinks it's a misjustice, and those who chant "Death to America" and "Gas the Jews". The people in the first group reminds me a bit of the people who were "anti-American" during the War on Terror and are mainly anti-Bibi. I doubt that many of them would support the total abolishment of Israel. At worst they are misguided and they don't consider the harm that a nation aligned with Syria/Iran would cause to our allies. The later group is completely unhinged and has grown louder over the last couple of weeks.
Group A seems like where I'd fall very well. Group B seems like Iranian trolls propping it up.
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2024, 02:45:02 PM »

Mostly they’re morons and Islamists, and some, I assume, are good people.

In truth the Free Palestine movement has been a complete disaster, Palestinians are native to Palestine and deserve a state, and Israel has not been a good faith actor under Netanyahu. But when half of the time the Free Palestine groups in the West sounds positive genocidal, it doesn’t really make one want to support the Palestinian cause.
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2024, 07:34:36 PM »

obvious freedom movement is obvious, and rather successful in that it has gotten great masses of people (especially young people) even in the imperialist core to oppose zionism and has miraculously exerted sufficient political pressure on the u.s. president to block an arms shipment to israel for the first time in history
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2024, 10:01:28 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2024, 02:59:49 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Ingemann has already covered perfectly.

Absolute gold mine for the Trump campaign.

They really seal the deal, and he pays nothing for the free votes.

Even though Biden fully supports Israel, these idiots will be characterised as whackjob leftists with pink hair.

Trump winning votes one scream at a time.

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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2024, 10:25:13 PM »

Like any movement that fights against a colonial oppressor, there will always be some unsavory characters in the mix, always conveniently used by fodder by uncharitable actors looking to exploit for political purposes. Many of the anti-apartheid freedom fighters in South Africa were convicted of terrorism for bombing buildings and whatnot, because war is hell, and that's what the struggle against apartheid was. That does not change or excuse what the cause is, which remains and always will remain just. So yes, unironically free Palestine etc.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2024, 10:36:59 PM »

Really bad. I support a two-state solution but a lot of these protestors were out there celebrating Oct. 7th.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2024, 12:59:37 AM »

You might disagree with their tactics, but ask yourself why you feel that way.
I just asked myself why I feel that way, my answer was "because their tactics are disagreeable".  If your tactics include limiting the civil liberties of others (or making excuses for those who limit the civil liberties of others), you're doing protesting wrong.
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2024, 06:43:13 AM »

If you're referring to the pro-syrian regime militia HP. If you're referring to people who want an end to west bank occupation and a move to a Palestinian state (two or one state, who cares), FF.
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2024, 08:25:39 AM »

The Western movement has decided it wants violent antisemitism to be its defining trait. We didn't decide they were HPs, they did.
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2024, 02:32:26 PM »

Doesn’t that movement want Steve Garvey to win the 2024 Senate race in California? Isn’t it the worst possible optics to replace a Democratic African-American woman with a Republican white man?
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2024, 08:20:42 PM »

Should there be a Palestinian state on the 67 Borders with some negotiation for specifics between the parties? Yes.

Is the backbone of the pro-Pal movement in the west comprised primarily of anti-semites and horrible people yes?

If people like Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib were thought leaders in the movement that would be a sign of righteousness. Instead it is Islamists and Iranian proxies.
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2024, 08:32:59 PM »

The same movement wants Trump and the GOP to win. The movement would rather have Trump elected and allow Netanyahu to go scorched earth and let Jared Kushner build luxury condos in Gaza just to spite America and Democrats, than have Democrats elected.
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2024, 08:41:59 PM »

Doesn’t that movement want Steve Garvey to win the 2024 Senate race in California? Isn’t it the worst possible optics to replace a Democratic African-American woman with a Republican white man?
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2024, 09:47:48 PM »

The same movement wants Trump and the GOP to win. The movement would rather have Trump elected and allow Netanyahu to go scorched earth and let Jared Kushner build luxury condos in Gaza just to spite America and Democrats, than have Democrats elected.
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