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« on: May 24, 2024, 08:43:17 AM »
« edited: June 03, 2024, 07:55:41 AM by GeorgiaModerate »

After a modest Biden comeback, Trump is soaring once more.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting-odds/2024/president/
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2024, 08:59:52 AM »

Lol all we need is NV, AZ, NH, VA, PA, WI and MI who cares about Markets, and we had a tied NV polls and we lead in an AZ poll this week

Markets needs to relax and wait til we vote not just jump on polls
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2024, 09:06:22 AM »

Betting markets are hardly predictive and jump back an forth. That's notthing special.

That said, and it pains me to say it, if I had to bet right now, I would say Trump winning is at least more likely than not. Whether I'll think that after the first debate and/or beyond, is a different story. As of today, however, it looks more likely that Biden is headed for a loss.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2024, 09:09:50 AM »

Biden isn't headed for a loss all Trump leads are MOE EMERSON+2/5 pts Users need to know what MOE means, it means a tied race
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2024, 09:13:06 AM »

Biden isn't headed for a loss all Trump leads are MOE EMERSON+2/5 pts Users need to know what MOE means, it means a tied race

You would be making a fine point with your thousands of samey posts if Biden was, even occasionally leading…. But he hasn’t been. Biden has been behind that MOE in practically every poll since September 2023. At no point in the last 8 months or so has Trump’s lead been in question.

Biden needs a Hail Mary at this point. Maybe he will get it? Probably he won’t.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2024, 09:20:58 AM »

Biden isn't headed for a loss all Trump leads are MOE EMERSON+2/5 pts Users need to know what MOE means, it means a tied race

You would be making a fine point with your thousands of samey posts if Biden was, even occasionally leading…. But he hasn’t been. Biden has been behind that MOE in practically every poll since September 2023. At no point in the last 8 months or so has Trump’s lead been in question.

Biden needs a Hail Mary at this point. Maybe he will get it? Probably he won’t.

Not trying to come at you here but Biden does “occasionally lead” though? We’ve had national polls with Biden up as well as polls in the states that actually matter.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2024, 09:31:06 AM »

Biden isn't headed for a loss all Trump leads are MOE EMERSON+2/5 pts Users need to know what MOE means, it means a tied race

You would be making a fine point with your thousands of samey posts if Biden was, even occasionally leading…. But he hasn’t been. Biden has been behind that MOE in practically every poll since September 2023. At no point in the last 8 months or so has Trump’s lead been in question.

Biden needs a Hail Mary at this point. Maybe he will get it? Probably he won’t.

Not trying to come at you here but Biden does “occasionally lead” though? We’ve had national polls with Biden up as well as polls in the states that actually matter.

I mean consistently lead in the averages…. Biden hasn’t led in the averages for almost a year. Polling has been remarkably consistent with Trump’s lead. Which to me lessens the importance of the MOE.
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2024, 09:32:26 AM »

Biden isn't headed for a loss all Trump leads are MOE EMERSON+2/5 pts Users need to know what MOE means, it means a tied race

You would be making a fine point with your thousands of samey posts if Biden was, even occasionally leading…. But he hasn’t been. Biden has been behind that MOE in practically every poll since September 2023. At no point in the last 8 months or so has Trump’s lead been in question.

Biden needs a Hail Mary at this point. Maybe he will get it? Probably he won’t.

Marist and IPSOS had Biden +3 I have been also posting polls too I know

We were down in 22 Realclear Pred a 230RH and ,53RS and we won when have the Rs won an Eday 2016 you guys lost 2018/20/22 I won't bet on any R to win again ever
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2024, 06:17:07 PM »

Betting markets are hardly predictive and jump back an forth. That's notthing special.

That said, and it pains me to say it, if I had to bet right now, I would say Trump winning is at least more likely than not. Whether I'll think that after the first debate and/or beyond, is a different story. As of today, however, it looks more likely that Biden is headed for a loss.

Why do you think Trump will win?

What changed your mind?
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2024, 08:29:28 PM »

Surely the betting market is banking on a non-conviction (whether that’s an acquittal or a more likelier hung jury), no?
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2024, 08:34:28 PM »

Trump is leading and will win, but betting markets aren't the best evidence for that.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2024, 08:41:30 PM »

The OUTPARTY always have an advantage look at Romney it took Sandy to spoil his chances otherwise without Sandy he could of won.

But, Biden can still win look at all the polls they all within the MOE, and stop worrying we can't do anything until we vote, this board always fret about Biden
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2024, 09:02:31 PM »

Surely the betting market is banking on a non-conviction (whether that’s an acquittal or a more likelier hung jury), no?

I think Trump’s surge have been mostly a reaction to the NYT/Siena polls two weeks ago.
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2024, 08:31:21 AM »

His dancing is getting better.

Hold On

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7XrKE_tt3b/
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2024, 10:31:31 AM »

Betting markets are hardly predictive and jump back an forth. That's notthing special.

That said, and it pains me to say it, if I had to bet right now, I would say Trump winning is at least more likely than not. Whether I'll think that after the first debate and/or beyond, is a different story. As of today, however, it looks more likely that Biden is headed for a loss.

Why do you think Trump will win?

What changed your mind?

Well, what changed my mind? I'm unsure whether my mind has changed all too much, I'm just beginning to think we're slowly running out of time. Or at least begin to wonder what could change in the time left.

I'm not yet predicting an outcome as it's way too early for that. However, initially I expected this cycle to be similar to 2012, in which the incumbent seemed vulnerable through the previous year, but things are improving into the election year. We haven't seen this yet. In spring and early summer 2012, it seemed like Obama was back on track and early definied his challenger as an out-of-touch GOP donor cycles elitist who would bring back the failed policies that caused the recession to begin with. And in 2020, after the first Covid bump, it was quite clear by June that Trump was headed for defeat. As of today, Biden is still in a better position than his predecessor was 4 years ago at this stage. Yet he's still struggling key battlegrounds despite a deeply flawed opponent, a decent economy and huge cash advantage.
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2024, 10:39:29 AM »

Betting markets are hardly predictive and jump back an forth. That's notthing special.

That said, and it pains me to say it, if I had to bet right now, I would say Trump winning is at least more likely than not. Whether I'll think that after the first debate and/or beyond, is a different story. As of today, however, it looks more likely that Biden is headed for a loss.

Why do you think Trump will win?

What changed your mind?

Well, what changed my mind? I'm unsure whether my mind has changed all too much, I'm just beginning to think we're slowly running out of time. Or at least begin to wonder what could change in the time left.

I'm not yet predicting an outcome as it's way too early for that. However, initially I expected this cycle to be similar to 2012, in which the incumbent seemed vulnerable through the previous year, but things are improving into the election year. We haven't seen this yet. In spring and early summer 2012, it seemed like Obama was back on track and early definied his challenger as an out-of-touch GOP donor cycles elitist who would bring back the failed policies that caused the recession to begin with. And in 2020, after the first Covid bump, it was quite clear by June that Trump was headed for defeat. As of today, Biden is still in a better position than his predecessor was 4 years ago at this stage. Yet he's still struggling key battlegrounds despite a deeply flawed opponent, a decent economy and huge cash advantage.


Early voting starts Oct 1due to Early voting us in CA live in a safe state it won't matter about CA, IL and NY anyhow, it matters about 275 VA, CO, NM, NV, WI, PA and MI most of Trump leads are MOE 2)5 pts in those states anyways

Do you know what a 1/3 pts lead is 150 K votes

It doesn't matter about markets
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2024, 03:23:44 AM »

Trump only dropped ever so slightly. He’s still holding firm.

Clearly the overall feeling is Trump will survive this.
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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2024, 04:42:34 AM »

Trump only dropped ever so slightly. He’s still holding firm.

Clearly the overall feeling is Trump will survive this.

Holy hell, you really do believe that Trump is above the law.
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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2024, 05:25:38 AM »

Trump has gone out to $1.83 on sportsbet.com.au

That is the first time he has gone out in 18 months.

Before the verdict, he was $1.73.



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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2024, 10:57:05 AM »

Trump only dropped ever so slightly. He’s still holding firm.

Clearly the overall feeling is Trump will survive this.

Holy hell, you really do believe that Trump is above the law.
Newsflash, they all do. That's why they are Trump voters. I'm not sure how democrats still haven't realized that NOTHING Trump does will turn them off him.
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2024, 11:52:25 AM »

Trump rising, Biden falling.

Think it’s time to conclude the conviction had little to none effect.
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2024, 12:03:21 PM »

Betting odds don't actually matter unless its like 80-20. Most online betting is banned in the USA, so its mainly foreigners trying to make a cheap buck off American politics. The first 300 votes counted in Kentucky will be enough to swing these markets 20/30 points.
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2024, 12:50:58 PM »

Why is Biden so much stronger in PredictIt than any other market?
It seems to me that if these markets were informative at all, there would be much more convergence among then.
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2024, 04:42:16 PM »

I think Trump is a bit more likely to win than not but his numbers in these markets seem pretty inflated.
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