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« on: May 23, 2024, 03:37:30 PM »

Biden was fully aware that if he would rescind former President Trumps Executive Orders on Immigration it would lead to an uncontrolable influx of undocumented Immigrants crossing the Countrys Southern Border but he did it anyways.



Biden has the Power to issue EO's to rein in illegal Immigration but thus far has chosen not to appeasing the left.
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2024, 04:01:35 PM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2024, 04:12:02 PM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2024, 04:24:41 PM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

Actually everyone agreed it was a pretty good bill until Trump told them to kill it so Biden wouldn't get a "win." Really hung a loyal Republican soldier like Lankford out to dry...

And if the crisis were real and they passed the Lankford bill and it wasn't enough to fix it, they could always try something again later this year or next year. But the fact that Republicans decided not to try anything is all the proof we need that they don't really think this is a big deal. Actions speak louder than words.
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2024, 04:27:33 PM »

There's a "southern border crisis" every election cycle.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2024, 06:49:13 PM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

I believe the 12 million number is those illegals who have been turned back at the border, or turned back after crossing the border, and not the number who have actually entered the United States and stayed.

If you're going to be concerned about something, you should at least get your facts straight.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2024, 07:30:46 PM »

Fact: There was a bill that would have dealt with this issue but Republicans killed it because Trump wanted it killed.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2024, 07:44:43 PM »

The "border crisis" is less about the border itself than the fact that they are being transported from the border to places that have been lacking the capacity to provide them services. Even as a Brandon Bro (💥💥) I'd call that a crisis, not just for citizens or other immigrants who rely on these services but on the migrants themselves.

Border Policy is not My Thing but anyone who blames any one president, let alone a sitting president of 3.5 years, is being stupid. Both the infrastructure shortages and the surge in migrants from politically unstable places are decades-old, compounding problems.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2024, 08:07:14 PM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

The bottom of the iceberg has melted, and that, along with a century of United States foreign policy discouraging (mild understatement) decent governments in Central America, is the ultimate source of "The Southern Borden Crisis". But don't worry! The late-stage capitalism collapse is going to get so much worse -  within a decade or two everyone will be begging to go back to the days when they had the luxury to worry about people trying to illegally cross the Rio Grande.

(Although I have to admit that watching Republicans get all bent out of shape over people breaking the law for their personal benefit is really, really funny.)
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2024, 10:32:50 PM »

If the border crisis is as bad as Republicans claim it is, then what does it say about them that they are willing to let that crisis fester for nearly a year for political purposes?
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2024, 10:44:09 PM »

The Rs just blocked another Border Bill do you know why TX and FL votes R unlike CA, NV, CO, NM and AZ it's not just immigration it's based on guns both states have strong gun rights laws that's why TX and FL are red not blue it's not solely based on immigrants


Allred is a lefty on guns in a pro gun state like TX that's gonna Doom him and so is Powell a lefty on guns
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2024, 08:44:29 AM »

There's a "southern border crisis" every election cycle.

Remember the "caravan" from October 2018? That would all of a sudden get in with Dems taking the House? Ergo, the head of the executive branch - which was a certain Mr. Donald J. Trump at the time - could do nothing about it.
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2024, 09:29:31 AM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

I believe the 12 million number is those illegals who have been turned back at the border, or turned back after crossing the border, and not the number who have actually entered the United States and stayed.

If you're going to be concerned about something, you should at least get your facts straight.

Under Biden's rule as President is has been measured at around 8.5M new people illegally entering the US. There is an unknown number of people not detected, thought to be 1.7M people.

That gives 10.2M

People turned back is around 500,000 per 9 month period.

That means the 12M is a total figure with roughly 1.8M turned back based on that.

Basically, you have added two states without asking

It's a problem.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2024, 09:33:46 AM »

Opinion: The U.S. Government (of present and past) as a whole is responsible due to propping up tyrants in Latin America and supporting the drug cartels (an enormous number of their clients are Americans.)
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2024, 09:35:38 AM »

Opinion: The U.S. Government (of present and past) as a whole is responsible due to propping up tyrants in Latin America and supporting the drug cartels (an enormous number of their clients are Americans.)

Not to mention a huge percentage of cartel weapons are purchased legally in the United States.

More evidence that the Second Amendment, or at least the far-right bastardization of it, deserves less respect than toilet paper.
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2024, 09:38:02 AM »

Opinion: The U.S. Government (of present and past) as a whole is responsible due to propping up tyrants in Latin America and supporting the drug cartels (an enormous number of their clients are Americans.)

Not to mention a huge percentage of cartel weapons are purchased legally in the United States.

More evidence that the Second Amendment, or at least the far-right bastardization of it, deserves less respect than toilet paper.

Both your analysis are largely correct. Problem is that neither fits on a campaign bumper sticker and therefore is not something your average voter cares about.
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2024, 09:47:16 AM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

Well now that's just your opinion, and it's wrong.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2024, 10:48:49 AM »

He does share a considerable amount of blame for making the problem worse by continuing his predecessor's psychotic hard line policies. "Illegal immigration" is a problem our government created so it could solve it
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2024, 11:19:00 AM »

He does share a considerable amount of blame for making the problem worse by continuing his predecessor's psychotic hard line policies. "Illegal immigration" is a problem our government created so it could solve it

It's a Housing crisis all over the globe not just in America
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2024, 11:30:47 AM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

Well now that's just your opinion, and it's wrong.

Bill was a Trojan horse:

1.It allowed up to 5,000 illegals to enter each day.
2.It increased "border agents", who thanks to Biden's reorganization now mostly refers to people processing asylum claims instead of patrolling the border.
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2024, 11:57:16 AM »

Sorry to tell you it's been a problem forever that's why Bush W not Trump introduced the Wall with Prez Fox, Trump just copied Bush W stump speech
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2024, 12:13:21 PM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

Well now that's just your opinion, and it's wrong.

Bill was a Trojan horse:

1.It allowed up to 5,000 illegals to enter each day.
2.It increased "border agents", who thanks to Biden's reorganization now mostly refers to people processing asylum claims instead of patrolling the border.

Was that bill not introduced by a Republican? I understand it could have gotten watered down in committee into something like you describe, but the other implication is that Republicans would rather keep the border crisis going to make Biden look bad in an election year considering no alternative solution has emerged, and hope that all this politicking around bills and whatnot is swept under the rug. And anecdotally, it's working - I actually forgot about this whole ordeal when I was thinking about Biden's weaknesses recently, until a post I saw reminded me.
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2024, 02:53:04 PM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

Well now that's just your opinion, and it's wrong.

Bill was a Trojan horse:

1.It allowed up to 5,000 illegals to enter each day.
2.It increased "border agents", who thanks to Biden's reorganization now mostly refers to people processing asylum claims instead of patrolling the border.

This is One America News tier delusion.

If it was a Trojan horse it wouldn't have had massive bipartisan support including from right wing hardliners.

Get a clue.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2024, 02:55:01 PM »

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .
So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

Well now that's just your opinion, and it's wrong.

Bill was a Trojan horse:

1.It allowed up to 5,000 illegals to enter each day.
2.It increased "border agents", who thanks to Biden's reorganization now mostly refers to people processing asylum claims instead of patrolling the border.

This is One America News tier delusion.

If it was a Trojan horse it wouldn't have had massive bipartisan support including from right wing hardliners.

Get a clue.

Joe Biden is refusing to enforce current immigration laws. You cant blame the legislative branch when you are not doing everything you can under current laws
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2024, 03:00:43 PM »

There's a "southern border crisis" every election cycle.

Yeah, that ISIS caravan we let in after Dems won the 2018 midterm really made me regret my vote for Maria Cantwell. Cry
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