If Phil Scott runs for an open senate seat in VT, would he win?
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« on: May 21, 2024, 02:31:31 PM »

Phil Scott is more popular in VT than Hogan in MD, and also more liberal than Hogan. VT is a much smaller state so his personal brand is easier to beat the partisanship. He constantly wins 2/3 majority. In 2020, he won by 41%, while Trump lost by 35%. While federal races are different from gubernatorial, and D did not seriously contest the race, this is still extremely impressive. In fact, this may be the largest overperformance in recent history.

How likely do you think he would win?
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2024, 02:37:34 PM »

No. He could oveperform Trump by 10%, but only that.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2024, 03:22:28 PM »

No, because he wouldn't want to.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2024, 03:42:43 PM »
« Edited: May 21, 2024, 03:49:42 PM by TML »

Ask Mike Sullivan how he won an open Senate seat in WY in 1994.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2024, 05:51:01 PM »

He would win without much difficulty. Phil Scott is popular enough and liberal enough that the only objection would be the R logo on his name. As long as he refuses to support McConnell and vows to take moderate stances he should be fine. Federal partisanship alone is not going to erase nearly 50 points of margins. It also heavily depends who his opponent is though as well.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2024, 07:58:19 PM »

He probably wouldn't win, but he would overperform typical Republican margins by 25+ points.
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2024, 08:00:20 PM »

Not as a Republican.  Same reason Bullock couldn't win in 2020 against Daines.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2024, 08:53:19 PM »

There's certainly potential, but it would be an unpredictable race, I think.
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2024, 09:19:27 PM »

He would win without much difficulty. Phil Scott is popular enough and liberal enough that the only objection would be the R logo on his name. As long as he refuses to support McConnell and vows to take moderate stances he should be fine. Federal partisanship alone is not going to erase nearly 50 points of margins. It also heavily depends who his opponent is though as well.

Yeah he could only win if he promises not to caucus with the Republicans- in which case he isn’t really a Republican.
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2024, 09:30:51 PM »

People can and do separate their state opinions from federal partisanship
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2024, 09:34:51 PM »

People can and do separate their state opinions from federal partisanship

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2024, 09:36:36 PM »

Probably not, but ask me again after November 5.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2024, 09:40:07 PM »

He would win without much difficulty. Phil Scott is popular enough and liberal enough that the only objection would be the R logo on his name. As long as he refuses to support McConnell and vows to take moderate stances he should be fine. Federal partisanship alone is not going to erase nearly 50 points of margins. It also heavily depends who his opponent is though as well.
It didn't work for Governor Weld or Governor Bredsen, and Vermont is more Democratic than Tennessee is Republican. Unless we see a Republican wave of some type, the best I could see Scott doing is reducing the race to a single-digit margin.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2024, 10:11:12 PM »

He would win without much difficulty. Phil Scott is popular enough and liberal enough that the only objection would be the R logo on his name. As long as he refuses to support McConnell and vows to take moderate stances he should be fine. Federal partisanship alone is not going to erase nearly 50 points of margins. It also heavily depends who his opponent is though as well.

I think he would have to run as an independent.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2024, 10:12:08 PM »

Ask Mike Sullivan how he won an open Senate seat in WY in 1994.

To be fair, Democrats were losing everywhere in 1994.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2024, 10:17:13 PM »

I voted no, assuming he runs as a Republican.

Although he might have a good chance as an indepent, which to be honest is probably what he would be federally. I really don't see much that he and Angus King would vote differently on. The party label would just hold him back. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2024, 11:15:28 PM »

He would probably run as a Democrat honestly.
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2024, 12:05:38 AM »

It would be very good, but it's almost impossible now. Federal politics is extremely polarized now (in my 50+ years of observation i don't remember such level of polarization, and doubt that it EVER happened). IMHO - it's extremely bad, but it's a reality. When people like Brian Fitzpatrick are "the most liberal Republican's" in the House and like Susan Collins - in Senate, while Manchin and Golden tend to play similar role for Democrats - something is extremely rotten. But - this is United States of present days. Better then my native Russia? Of course. But - not by that much as even 40 years ago.
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2024, 01:07:40 AM »

Phil Scott would win yes, but not as a Republican. He would be an Independent who either does not caucus with a party of who caucuses with Democrats at the federal level.
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2024, 05:31:39 AM »

No Zuckerberg would win it would be the same as MD
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« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2024, 06:01:25 PM »

He would win without much difficulty. Phil Scott is popular enough and liberal enough that the only objection would be the R logo on his name. As long as he refuses to support McConnell and vows to take moderate stances he should be fine. Federal partisanship alone is not going to erase nearly 50 points of margins. It also heavily depends who his opponent is though as well.

Not as a Republican.

William Weld won Mass. Gov. in 1994 by 42.6% and lost Mass. Sen. in 1996 by 7.5%.
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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2024, 06:03:24 PM »

See Larry Hogan later this year.
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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2024, 06:05:01 PM »

There won't be an open seat the reason why Bernie announced was Howard Dean wanted that seat
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2024, 07:05:09 PM »

He would win without much difficulty. Phil Scott is popular enough and liberal enough that the only objection would be the R logo on his name. As long as he refuses to support McConnell and vows to take moderate stances he should be fine. Federal partisanship alone is not going to erase nearly 50 points of margins. It also heavily depends who his opponent is though as well.

Not as a Republican.

William Weld won Mass. Gov. in 1994 by 42.6% and lost Mass. Sen. in 1996 by 7.5%.
Weld was running against an incumbent though. He would have carried an open seat race for sure.
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2024, 08:48:43 PM »

I think he’d have a good shot (or even be favored) if he ran as an Independent that promised to caucus with Democrats (similar to Angus King). But I don’t think he’d even want to run, so we probably will never know. He’d almost certainly lose if he ran as a Republican.
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