What does a second Trump term look like?

[Tekken_Guy]

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Given how dysfunctional the house GOP majority has been I don’t think congress will be able to get a lot done unless they grow their majorities. Also the senate will still have Murkowski, Collins, and a few institutionalist who will be roadblocks to Trump’s most radical proposals.

Also I think Congress might still pass Ukraine aid over Trump’s vetoes.

[President Johnson]

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Pretty much this, and he will also again try to finally repeal Obamacare, which may actually pass this time around.

Additionally, he would definitely get away with all the pending trials and indictments.

[Tekken_Guy]

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Pretty much this, and he will also again try to finally repeal Obamacare, which may actually pass this time around.

Additionally, he would definitely get away with all the pending trials and indictments.

It may not pass because he’ll have narrow majorities in the house and senate at best.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Worse than we can possibly imagine, much like his first term. If you think your negative expectations hit the bedrock, think again.

[gerritcole]

To break up the negativity, perhaps the greatest 4 year term post ww2, hennything is possible

[7,052,770]

Here's one thing we can all agree on - if Trump wins, we better not here ONE WORD of complaint, on this forum or off of it, from anyone who didn't vote for Biden. Because you were repeatedly warned exactly what would happen and went into that voting booth to make that intentional choice.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Here's one thing we can all agree on - if Trump wins, we better not here ONE WORD of complaint, on this forum or off of it, from anyone who didn't vote for Biden. Because you were repeatedly warned exactly what would happen and went into that voting booth to make that intentional choice.

You would think we would have learned after 2016.

The sad reality is that there's a sickness among some in the country-particularly on the idealistic left-who may not vote for Trump, but to spite Biden and the "establishment" ate fine with Trump losing because Biden isn't perfect. I saw this in 2016 as well. When will we learn? What will it take? 

It's not over though. I hope I'm wrong about anyone I may have implicated in my above paragraph.

[7,052,770]

Here's one thing we can all agree on - if Trump wins, we better not here ONE WORD of complaint, on this forum or off of it, from anyone who didn't vote for Biden. Because you were repeatedly warned exactly what would happen and went into that voting booth to make that intentional choice.

You would think we would have learned after 2016.

I think basically everyone who was paying attention learned that in 2016. It's just that the left-of-center people boasting about possibly withholding their votes from Biden were mostly young teenagers/preteens back in 2016 and don't really remember it too well. And they're much too young to remember the changes that Obama made, such as what health insurance was like before 2010 (and what it will likely return to if Trump gets back in the White House).

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Trump Amplified Calls to Arrest Liz Cheney and Alvin Bragg

The meme also accused Cheney of “election interference” and directed followers to “reTruth of you want her held accountable and be criminally prosecuted for he crimes.” Cheney was on the January 6th committee investigating Trump’s actions resulting in the Capitol riot.

Trump also shared a post from Truth Social user “Joe” which shows a picture of Bragg along with “arrest Bragg for prosecutorial misconduct, reTruth if you agree.” Bragg is currently prosecuting Trump for mislabeling business records in connection with hush money payments to Stormy Daniels.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Here's one thing we can all agree on - if Trump wins, we better not here ONE WORD of complaint, on this forum or off of it, from anyone who didn't vote for Biden. Because you were repeatedly warned exactly what would happen and went into that voting booth to make that intentional choice.

You would think we would have learned after 2016.

I think basically everyone who was paying attention learned that in 2016. It's just that the left-of-center people boasting about possibly withholding their votes from Biden were mostly young teenagers/preteens back in 2016 and don't really remember it too well. And they're much too young to remember the changes that Obama made, such as what health insurance was like before 2010 (and what it will likely return to if Trump gets back in the White House).

Well, I think my generation of older millennials got the point. But now there's a new generation of new voters in their late teens and early 20s who are exhibiting the same "both sides bad; perfect or nothing" attitude. I hope I'm wrong. I've had a good amount of faith in the Zoomers so far.

[Sir Mohamed]

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Pretty much this, and he will also again try to finally repeal Obamacare, which may actually pass this time around.

Additionally, he would definitely get away with all the pending trials and indictments.

It may not pass because he’ll have narrow majorities in the house and senate at best.

Small majorities might be enough since the moderate wing is pretty much gone from capitol. And in a scenario with Trump winning, I doubt the GOP has anything less than 52 seats in the senate (which they would need with Collins and Murk voting against).

[Tekken_Guy]

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Pretty much this, and he will also again try to finally repeal Obamacare, which may actually pass this time around.

Additionally, he would definitely get away with all the pending trials and indictments.

It may not pass because he’ll have narrow majorities in the house and senate at best.

Small majorities might be enough since the moderate wing is pretty much gone from capitol. And in a scenario with Trump winning, I doubt the GOP has anything less than 52 seats in the senate (which they would need with Collins and Murk voting against).

They’ll still be some institutions lists like Mitch McConnell, Bill Cassidy, Shelley Moore Capito, Todd Young in the senate who could block some of Trump’s more radical ideas.

And in the house you have the likes of Fitzpatrick, Kean, Bacon, Valadao.

[GAinDC]

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Pretty much this, and he will also again try to finally repeal Obamacare, which may actually pass this time around.

Additionally, he would definitely get away with all the pending trials and indictments.

It may not pass because he’ll have narrow majorities in the house and senate at best.

Small majorities might be enough since the moderate wing is pretty much gone from capitol. And in a scenario with Trump winning, I doubt the GOP has anything less than 52 seats in the senate (which they would need with Collins and Murk voting against).

They’ll still be some institutions lists like Mitch McConnell, Bill Cassidy, Shelley Moore Capito, Todd Young in the senate who could block some of Trump’s more radical ideas.

And in the house you have the likes of Fitzpatrick, Kean, Bacon, Valadao.

That's not many and none of them will be in leadership, so not much of a firewall, assuming they even serve as a firewall

[Tekken_Guy]

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Pretty much this, and he will also again try to finally repeal Obamacare, which may actually pass this time around.

Additionally, he would definitely get away with all the pending trials and indictments.

It may not pass because he’ll have narrow majorities in the house and senate at best.

Small majorities might be enough since the moderate wing is pretty much gone from capitol. And in a scenario with Trump winning, I doubt the GOP has anything less than 52 seats in the senate (which they would need with Collins and Murk voting against).

They’ll still be some institutions lists like Mitch McConnell, Bill Cassidy, Shelley Moore Capito, Todd Young in the senate who could block some of Trump’s more radical ideas.

And in the house you have the likes of Fitzpatrick, Kean, Bacon, Valadao.

That's not many and none of them will be in leadership, so not much of a firewall, assuming they even serve as a firewall

They’ll be enough of a firewall if the majorities are extremely narrow. Also have you not seen the dysfunctional narrow house majorities of this congress? How will they effectively govern?

[Sir Mohamed]

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Pretty much this, and he will also again try to finally repeal Obamacare, which may actually pass this time around.

Additionally, he would definitely get away with all the pending trials and indictments.

It may not pass because he’ll have narrow majorities in the house and senate at best.

Small majorities might be enough since the moderate wing is pretty much gone from capitol. And in a scenario with Trump winning, I doubt the GOP has anything less than 52 seats in the senate (which they would need with Collins and Murk voting against).

They’ll still be some institutions lists like Mitch McConnell, Bill Cassidy, Shelley Moore Capito, Todd Young in the senate who could block some of Trump’s more radical ideas.

And in the house you have the likes of Fitzpatrick, Kean, Bacon, Valadao.

That's not many and none of them will be in leadership, so not much of a firewall, assuming they even serve as a firewall

Yup, also I was more specifically referring to the repeal of the ACA.

Aspects of Project 2025 will for sure be implemented, but in its pure form though. I guess that will inevitably happen at some point as the document was written by right-wing ideologues and Think Tanks. Whenever the GOP holds the next trifecta. If not in 2025, probably in 2029. Latter is also scary, because the POTUS then might be more competent and less erratic than Trump.

[Duke of York]

arrests of Sanctuary city mayors, mass round ups and deportations of illegal immigrants, persecution of political opponents.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Pretty much this, and he will also again try to finally repeal Obamacare, which may actually pass this time around.

Additionally, he would definitely get away with all the pending trials and indictments.

It may not pass because he’ll have narrow majorities in the house and senate at best.

Small majorities might be enough since the moderate wing is pretty much gone from capitol. And in a scenario with Trump winning, I doubt the GOP has anything less than 52 seats in the senate (which they would need with Collins and Murk voting against).

They’ll still be some institutions lists like Mitch McConnell, Bill Cassidy, Shelley Moore Capito, Todd Young in the senate who could block some of Trump’s more radical ideas.

And in the house you have the likes of Fitzpatrick, Kean, Bacon, Valadao.

That's not many and none of them will be in leadership, so not much of a firewall, assuming they even serve as a firewall

Yup, also I was more specifically referring to the repeal of the ACA.

Aspects of Project 2025 will for sure be implemented, but in its pure form though. I guess that will inevitably happen at some point as the document was written by right-wing ideologues and Think Tanks. Whenever the GOP holds the next trifecta. If not in 2025, probably in 2029. Latter is also scary, because the POTUS then might be more competent and less erratic than Trump.

Rs won't def Newsom in 28 maybe def Harris

[Medal506]

He gets nothing done just like his first term

[EastwoodS]

Trumps second term will realign elections to the Republicans in the future. The Clinton/Obama Conensus and coalition, totally destroyed