Trump holds largest rally since FDR — NJ in play? (LOL, no it wasn't)
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« on: May 12, 2024, 11:33:25 PM »
« edited: May 19, 2024, 07:01:26 PM by GeorgiaModerate »

We love our whales, don’t we folks?
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2024, 11:35:26 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2024, 02:30:31 AM by Progressive Pessimist »
No. Just no.

80,000 people is 1% of New Jersey's population, and many of the attendees are probably from all across the Mid-Atlantic and elsewhere.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2024, 11:38:21 PM »
He always gets large rallies but does it change the number that there are more Ds in this country than Rs no it doesn't, Ds don't always show up to rallies and it's a shame people show up to Trump rallies he is a criminal. Everyone went to jail for J6 except Trump
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2024, 04:11:47 AM »
https://www.npr.org/2008/10/18/95867827/100-000-turn-out-for-obama-rally-in-st-louis
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2024, 04:22:46 AM »

To be fair, he did almost win Missouri.
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2024, 04:49:34 AM »
I mean it'll almost certainly be the closest it has been since 2004 but that's not necessarily saying much. It's not seriously in play.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2024, 06:13:52 AM »
The Wildwood mayor is a MAGAite, and just like his Dear Leader, under criminal indictment https://archive.ph/iL1gz
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2024, 06:36:48 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Matt on May 13, 2024, 06:13:52 AM
The Wildwood mayor is a MAGAite, and just like his Dear Leader, under criminal indictment https://archive.ph/iL1gz
To be fair, that's just an ordinary politician in New Jersey.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2024, 06:45:03 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2024, 07:30:06 AM »
4200 people...tops
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2024, 07:33:13 AM »
-80-100K is big overestimated

-Trump voters are energized.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2024, 07:40:09 AM »
Roger Stone responded to people questioning the crowd size with this:



That's actually a Rod Stewart concert in Rio in 1994.
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2024, 10:08:06 AM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on May 13, 2024, 06:45:03 AM



So from the picture on the right (trump's rally), what is the estimate?
Maybe 15-20K at most?
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2024, 10:09:02 AM »
2020 Democratic nominee Bernie Sanders can confirm that crowd sizes matter a lot.
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2024, 10:30:37 AM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on May 13, 2024, 07:40:09 AM
Roger Stone responded to people questioning the crowd size with this:


That's actually a Rod Stewart concert in Rio in 1994.

Wow, look at the beautiful mountains and tropical climate of South Jersey.
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2024, 10:40:50 AM »
NJ might be in single digits but that does not mean it’s in play . A 2004 style result there is the best case scenario there and that means Trump still loses the state by 7 points which means the state isn’t in play by any definition.

As a side note Bush’s 2004 performance was not a best case scenario for him , it was more like a median one and it’s possible in a best case scenario he could have really put the state in play .
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2024, 11:00:09 AM »
Quote from: ProudModerate2 on May 13, 2024, 10:08:06 AM
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on May 13, 2024, 06:45:03 AM


So from the picture on the right (trump's rally), what is the estimate?
Maybe 15-20K at most?

Looks like something under 10K to me.
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2024, 11:32:12 AM »
If NJ ends up in play the way MO was in 2008 then I think Biden has lost in a landslide or mini landslide anywyay.
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2024, 04:29:18 PM »
New Jersey will not be in single digits!

Biden wins by 13 at worst.
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2024, 10:15:41 PM »
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on May 13, 2024, 04:29:18 PM
New Jersey will not be in single digits!

Biden wins by 13 at worst.

I don't know, I think "Cary dite by raye sigh en olve be cut" may win over a lot of NJ voters. Probably almost as many as want to see Trump make the late Hannibal Lecter great again.
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2024, 10:17:57 PM »
Quote from: Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin on May 13, 2024, 10:15:41 PM
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on May 13, 2024, 04:29:18 PM
New Jersey will not be in single digits!

Biden wins by 13 at worst.

I don't know, I think "Cary dite by raye sigh en olve be cut" may win over a lot of NJ voters. Probably almost as many as want to see Trump make the late Hannibal Lecter great again.

The only gibberish word that might get him a few votes here is "gabagool."
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2024, 10:24:42 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2024, 10:42:23 PM by Devils30 »
No, but if Trump gets 2021 Gov level numbers in south Jersey he could keep the state around 6-9%.
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2024, 10:25:19 PM »
Quote from: Devils30 on May 13, 2024, 10:24:42 PM
No, but if Trump gets 2017 Gov level numbers in south Jersey he could keep the state around 6-9%.

You mean 2021?
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2024, 10:42:05 PM »
Quote from: Tekken_Guy on May 13, 2024, 10:25:19 PM
Quote from: Devils30 on May 13, 2024, 10:24:42 PM
No, but if Trump gets 2017 Gov level numbers in south Jersey he could keep the state around 6-9%.

You mean 2021?

Yes, my bad! I think if Trump really has a multiracial working class coalition he can win Cumberland, Atlantic and Gloucester.
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2024, 10:43:49 PM »
Quote from: Devils30 on May 13, 2024, 10:42:05 PM
Quote from: Tekken_Guy on May 13, 2024, 10:25:19 PM
Quote from: Devils30 on May 13, 2024, 10:24:42 PM
No, but if Trump gets 2017 Gov level numbers in south Jersey he could keep the state around 6-9%.

You mean 2021?

Yes, my bad! I think if Trump really has a multiracial working class coalition he can win Cumberland, Atlantic and Gloucester.

I wonder if he could also make gains in the shore area, it’s basically NJ’s Long Island.
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