FT poll: Biden’s recent improving economic polling has dissipated
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« on: May 12, 2024, 12:24:06 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2024, 01:11:47 PM »

At least Biden’s numbers aren’t as bad as they were in January.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2024, 01:55:30 PM »

At least Biden’s numbers aren’t as bad as they were in January.

He still has plenty of work to do. If Trump himself wasn't such a toxic candidate, I'd honestly say that no incumbent - Democrat or Republican - could win with these numbers, if they were accurate and still unchanged in September or October.
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2024, 02:06:29 PM »

At least Biden’s numbers aren’t as bad as they were in January.

He still has plenty of work to do. If Trump himself wasn't such a toxic candidate, I'd honestly say that no incumbent - Democrat or Republican - could win with these numbers, if they were accurate and still unchanged in September or October.

Trump is extremely overrated as a candidate. He only won against a divided field in 2016 and a terribly run democratic campaign and then in 2020 made so many mistakes(not taking a rally around the flag moment, disastrous first debate) and now is tied or barely ahead against a president whose approvals is in his 30s .

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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2024, 02:09:51 PM »

At least Biden’s numbers aren’t as bad as they were in January.

He still has plenty of work to do. If Trump himself wasn't such a toxic candidate, I'd honestly say that no incumbent - Democrat or Republican - could win with these numbers, if they were accurate and still unchanged in September or October.

Trump is extremely overrated as a candidate. He only won against a divided field in 2016 and a terribly run democratic campaign and then in 2020 made so many mistakes(not taking a rally around the flag moment, disastrous first debate) and now is tied or barely ahead against a president whose approvals is in his 30s .



Do you honestly believe this poll they said Obama had the same Approvals and he beat your Romney wait til the Ecit polls, the polls said the same thing in 22 and there was no red wave


Biden is leading 47/46 and it's a 303 map, the reason why because Trump like Romney wants to pass tax cuts wait for Exit polls
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2024, 02:33:10 PM »

40% approval on handling the economy honestly isn’t bad considering the massive media campaign to sell the economy as worse than it actually is.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2024, 02:35:33 PM »

This is interesting too:

Who do you think does a better job representing the interest of each of the groups listed below?

• Union worked: Biden 42-36%
• Blue collar workers: 40-40%
• Small businesses: Trump 40-39%
• Stock market investors: Trump 45-27%
• Wall Street and big banks: Trump 51-24%
• Large corporations: Trump 55-21%
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2024, 05:09:57 PM »

That and his approval ratings are obviously bad news for him that are going to be difficult to negate.

However, as we saw in 2022, when the economy was even worse, voters didn't really take that out on Biden and Democrats, save for a few states.

If this election does become a choice over a referendum, as 2022 was and the Biden campaign is attempting to create, I expect a large number of his disapprovers to vote for him in spite of their dissatisfaction, more so than Trump's disapprovers. And those voters tend to be the better educated, higher propensity types Biden needs and has as his base and more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

It's just a matter of what type of composition the electorate is, and how third parties factor into it. We're too polarized to see loyal Democrats and Trump-haters sit out and let Trump win. Persuasion is not going to be as effective this election, for both candidates.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2024, 10:56:31 PM »

One of the biggest mistakes Biden made in 2020 was not running on the economy. He ceded the entire lane to Trump, and while he won that election you are starting to see it hurt him now. Obama ran and won on the economy in 2008, so while it wasn't doing too hot in 2012 he was able to hold onto his talking points and hold off Romney quite a bit on it. Biden never even tried to make the economy part of his 2020 message so by default voters are going to prefer Trump on it. The economy doing poorly right now doesn't help him either, but he gave up his chance to win on the issue four years ago.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2024, 11:16:49 PM »

One of the biggest mistakes Biden made in 2020 was not running on the economy. He ceded the entire lane to Trump, and while he won that election you are starting to see it hurt him now. Obama ran and won on the economy in 2008, so while it wasn't doing too hot in 2012 he was able to hold onto his talking points and hold off Romney quite a bit on it. Biden never even tried to make the economy part of his 2020 message so by default voters are going to prefer Trump on it. The economy doing poorly right now doesn't help him either, but he gave up his chance to win on the issue four years ago.


Wrong Biden talked about tax cuts to oil Corporation ever since he ran, it's not the full economy but it is part of the economy.  He will again address tax cuts to the rich when he is in full campaign mode.  Why do you think the EC map is like it is the oil states gets big tax cuts from oil Corporation in 2017 Trump tax cuts bill
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