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« on: May 09, 2024, 08:53:36 PM »

How would a Democrat from or aligned with the Squad do in a national election if they were the party nominee?
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2024, 09:04:24 PM »

UT wpuld depend on the GOP nominee.
The republican would win unless they nominate an Freedom Caucus radical (then, it would be a toss-up)
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2024, 02:30:25 PM »

Would almost certainly lose badly unless the Republican ticket is extremely bad and/or the Democrats is bailed out by a climate worse than 2008 for Republicans.
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2024, 06:59:15 PM »

Republicans would destroy her.  New York would be competitive.  I hope this happens.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2024, 02:56:03 PM »

Republicans would destroy her.  New York would be competitive.  I hope this happens.

New York is not going to swing to the Reublicans. The Squad even has some house representation from the state of New York!
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2024, 06:26:38 PM »

This very much depends on the Squad Democrat. Pressley would probably do better than AOC, while Tlaib, Bush, or Bowman would do historically bad.

But I don't think there's a chance for any sort of mega-loss like 72 or 84 anymore.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2024, 06:41:18 PM »

Republicans would destroy her.  New York would be competitive.  I hope this happens.

New York is not going to swing to the Reublicans. The Squad even has some house representation from the state of New York!
Sure, but competitive doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna flip. North Carolina has been considered competitive in every cycle since 2008, and that's the only cycle in which it's gone to the Democrats.

This very much depends on the Squad Democrat. Pressley would probably do better than AOC, while Tlaib, Bush, or Bowman would do historically bad.

But I don't think there's a chance for any sort of mega-loss like 72 or 84 anymore.
That said, I agree with this assessment. The "rehabilitated" members would do decently, while the "unrepentant" members would not.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2024, 08:29:00 AM »

Absolutely atrocious. Would lose previously blue places like Lackawanna County, PA by 25 points and destroy the Dems suburban coalition.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2024, 08:55:13 AM »

Absolutely atrocious. Would lose previously blue places like Lackawanna County, PA by 25 points and destroy the Dems suburban coalition.


Trade the suburban bourgeois vote in exchange for the working class who have swung to the Republicans. If the Democrats want to be serious about winning elections they should ditch neoliberalism and fully adopt to being a populist left party. The coalition would not be so fractured with having right-leaning voters in the same party as progressives.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2024, 10:18:34 AM »

Absolutely atrocious. Would lose previously blue places like Lackawanna County, PA by 25 points and destroy the Dems suburban coalition.


Trade the suburban bourgeois vote in exchange for the working class who have swung to the Republicans. If the Democrats want to be serious about winning elections they should ditch neoliberalism and fully adopt to being a populist left party. The coalition would not be so fractured with having right-leaning voters in the same party as progressives.

The only way to do that would be moderate on social issues and pray GOP goes pro free trade again. There is no way to fully appease the insurgent left types without losing elections in the USA.
Dems should better try to help unionize the South (specially GA and NC) and try to have their case on farms again.
Also, try to win Macomb County again, and maybe other WC suburbs.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2024, 11:43:13 AM »

Absolutely atrocious. Would lose previously blue places like Lackawanna County, PA by 25 points and destroy the Dems suburban coalition.


Trade the suburban bourgeois vote in exchange for the working class who have swung to the Republicans. If the Democrats want to be serious about winning elections they should ditch neoliberalism and fully adopt to being a populist left party. The coalition would not be so fractured with having right-leaning voters in the same party as progressives.

The Dems would have to be a much more patriotic party than what they currently are to pull this off. WWC voters are really not interested in economically left candidates who spew communist slogans like the squad does.
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2024, 01:50:15 PM »

Absolutely atrocious. Would lose previously blue places like Lackawanna County, PA by 25 points and destroy the Dems suburban coalition.


Trade the suburban bourgeois vote in exchange for the working class who have swung to the Republicans. If the Democrats want to be serious about winning elections they should ditch neoliberalism and fully adopt to being a populist left party. The coalition would not be so fractured with having right-leaning voters in the same party as progressives.

The Dems would have to be a much more patriotic party than what they currently are to pull this off. WWC voters are really not interested in economically left candidates who spew communist slogans like the squad does.

Eh, patriotism has nothing to do with it. Patriotism is simply loving one's country, but that doesn't necessarily have to mean believing one's country is perfect. Personally, I'd say that working toward improving things one believes are wrong with one's country is actually the highest form of patriotism.

Now, this thread is talking about the Squad. Can admit there are a member or two there that, through their rhetoric, don't seem all that patriotic. But, you didn't just bring up the Squad; you brought up all Democrats. Plenty of patriotic Democrats out there, contrary to some ill-held beliefs.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2024, 06:13:54 PM »

Absolutely atrocious. Would lose previously blue places like Lackawanna County, PA by 25 points and destroy the Dems suburban coalition.


Trade the suburban bourgeois vote in exchange for the working class who have swung to the Republicans. If the Democrats want to be serious about winning elections they should ditch neoliberalism and fully adopt to being a populist left party. The coalition would not be so fractured with having right-leaning voters in the same party as progressives.

People with AOC's views on social issues and cultural issues would do terribly with working class voters.

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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2024, 08:33:42 AM »

How would a Democrat from or aligned with the Squad do in a national election if they were the party nominee?

This question may have been interesting, to me, before 2021.

Now, I donít give a s*.

They are worthless.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2024, 08:39:33 AM »

Become more nationalist, protectionist, America First and immigration restrictionist, and they could pull it off. They don't have to become military interventionist.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2024, 07:20:20 AM »

Disastrous. Even against someone like Trump. Unless the GOP nom was a crazy like MTG or Boebert, the election would be a blowout. Even a staunch but otherwise normie conservative like DeSantis would mop the floor with the likes of AOC or Tlaib or Bowman, etc. If they were up against someone like Glenn Youngkin, we'd very possibly come close to a 400+ EV win and maybe even double digit NPV margin.

Every gain Dems have made with suburbanites would quickly evaporate with a Squad nominee. MN, NH, VA very likely flip, heck even CO could. NJ very possibly flips while the Rust Belt trio isn't remotely competitive. Only region that doesn't see a significant rightward shift would be the Pacific NW, given the large amount of white leftists
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