Evangelical Preacher Goes Viral Talking About the Trump Bible

[Inmate Trump]

Evangelical Preacher Goes Berserk On ‘Disgusting’ Trump Bible In Stunning Viral Rant

It’s disgusting! It’s blasphemous! It’s a ploy! Are you kidding me? Some of you are so encouraged by that. Let me tell you something. The gospel is not an American gospel! It is the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ!

Now you can get mad if you want to, but I’m going to tell you something. If you glory in that kind of thing, you don’t have a prayer life.

If you glory in that kind of mess. Political mess. You do not know what the Word of God says.

[ProudModerate2]

Some of our blue avatar Evangelicals, here in Atlas, need to click on the link in the OP, and watch the video. They need to hear the preachers words directly in that video.

You can tell, that he even made some of his own congregation, in the audience, feel uncomfortable with what he had to say to them. Some were probably 'guilty as charged.'

[jojoju1998]

Some of our blue avatar Evangelicals, here in Atlas, need to click on the link in the OP, and watch the video. They need to hear the preachers words directly in that video.

You can tell, that he even made some of his own congregation, in the audience, feel uncomfortable with what he had to say to them. Some were probably 'guilty as charged.'

This view point is actually far more common than people think with evangelical christians.

[President Johnson]

Some of our blue avatar Evangelicals, here in Atlas, need to click on the link in the OP, and watch the video. They need to hear the preachers words directly in that video.

You can tell, that he even made some of his own congregation, in the audience, feel uncomfortable with what he had to say to them. Some were probably 'guilty as charged.'

Most MAGA cultists will probably dennounce the preacher as a secret agent of the left who was paid by Bill Gates or George Soros.

[Inmate Trump]

Some of our blue avatar Evangelicals, here in Atlas, need to click on the link in the OP, and watch the video. They need to hear the preachers words directly in that video.

They aren’t even going to click on this thread.

They are Trump supporters before they are anything else.

[ProudModerate2]

Some of our blue avatar Evangelicals, here in Atlas, need to click on the link in the OP, and watch the video. They need to hear the preachers words directly in that video.

They aren’t even going to click on this thread.
They are Trump supporters before they are anything else.

And that is sad, because that is exactly what the preacher is trying to convey to them ...
"If you glory in that kind of ... political mess (trump) ... you do not know what the Word of God says."
They place trump, before God.

[jojoju1998]

Some of our blue avatar Evangelicals, here in Atlas, need to click on the link in the OP, and watch the video. They need to hear the preachers words directly in that video.

They aren’t even going to click on this thread.
They are Trump supporters before they are anything else.

And that is sad, because that is exactly what the preacher is trying to convey to them ...
"If you glory in that kind of ... political mess (trump) ... you do not know what the Word of God says."
They place trump, before God.

It's because they fear the secular changing culture. And they see Trump as a bulwark against the changing culture.



So they see him as preserving democracy, because to many, democracy is at risk from people who want to change the culture of the country.


While liberals, see Trump as a risk to democracy.

[7,052,770]

It's because they fear the secular changing culture. And they see Trump as a bulwark against the changing culture.

Which is pretty ironic, given that he's literally on trial right now for paying off a porno actress that he was cheating on his wife with. Imagine how Republicans would have reacted if Obama or Biden had had that scandal instead.

[Burke Bro]

Post Dobbs, there's been a big effort by the media to explain recent Republican losses as a push back against the party by female voters who want to protect abortion rights. But that's only half the story. Evangelicals have not been interested in national politics for most of American history. Roe v. Wade was an exception to this rule and was the single most important issue for evangelical voters during the last 50 years. In the age of Dobbs, Republicans (and Trump especially), need to be careful with how they choose to talk to these voters. A schism has emerged within the evangelical movement, albeit a quiet one, that has separated the Mike Pence types (who tend to be college educated and whose identities overlap with the more pro-establishment business and foreign policy communities) from the more christian nationalist types, and this represents an incredibly real threat to the highly cohesive nature of the Republican Party coalition that has existed since Reagan.

[jojoju1998]

It's because they fear the secular changing culture. And they see Trump as a bulwark against the changing culture.

Which is pretty ironic, given that he's literally on trial right now for paying off a porno actress that he was cheating on his wife with. Imagine how Republicans would have reacted if Obama or Biden had had that scandal instead.

And they don't care. Because all they see in the world view, is that Biden and the democrats are pushing same sex marriage, abortion, and that the democrats want to destroy conservativism and religion in this country.

[Skill and Chance]

It's because they fear the secular changing culture. And they see Trump as a bulwark against the changing culture.

Which is pretty ironic, given that he's literally on trial right now for paying off a porno actress that he was cheating on his wife with. Imagine how Republicans would have reacted if Obama or Biden had had that scandal instead.

Hmmm... there's a long history of Christian communities that felt existentially threatened backing the most brutal pagan warlord they could find who would agree to a public gesture of conversion.  The fact this person didn't feel sincerely bound by Christian morality (at least at the outset) was if anything seen as a positive, because that would make them scarier to opposition groups.  Christian support for Trump could be a logical extension of that historical sentiment. 

Examples of this abound, many of whom later dominated the region and imposed Christian legal codes on the populace even if they personally didn't follow them (or didn't start following them until after the political conflict was decisively won).  Several of these people are now venerated as Christian saints, e.g. St. Olaf, St. Olga of Kiev, Emperor Constantine, etc.   

[DaleCooper]

Oh, screw this guy. I'm tired of evangelical crocodile tears. If you weren't sounding the alarm 30 years ago about the depraved, anti-Christ state of this scam religion then I have no interest in what you're saying now. Evangelical "christianity" is no more apostate today than it has been at any point in my lifetime. It's been an unbiblical end-times doomsday cult since before the vast majority of this forum was born.

[T'Chenka]

Oh, screw this guy.

Yep. If you find clips of this entire sermon, or at least, more of the sermon that took place directly before this viral clip, the pastor is saying disgusting things. I saw the clip days ago and can't quite remember what the nature of the disgusting comments were, but if I try hard to remember, perhaps it was bigotry / homophobia. Anybody curious could go find the clip to confirm.

[DaleCooper]

It's because they fear the secular changing culture. And they see Trump as a bulwark against the changing culture.

Which is pretty ironic, given that he's literally on trial right now for paying off a porno actress that he was cheating on his wife with. Imagine how Republicans would have reacted if Obama or Biden had had that scandal instead.

They have their false god's forgiveness and you don't. That's why they're allowed to sin day and night, without shame and without repentance. If you publicly agree with them, then you have a get out of hell free card. Trump has it, Biden and Obama don't.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Trump has done more to advance the conservative and Christian causes than this random preacher. If he doesn't want to vote Trump its fine, its a free country, but I hope he stops slandering the President who has fought for him more than anyone in recent history.

[Skill and Chance]

Trump has done more to advance the conservative and Christian causes than this random preacher. If he doesn't want to vote Trump its fine, its a free country, but I hope he stops slandering the President who has fought for him more than anyone in recent history.

This dovetails with what I was saying.  Most politically active Christians in the US right now want the equivalent of a newly baptized Viking warlord who will scare everyone around them into stopping the raids.  They don't care how pagan he is in his personal life as long as he raises heck on their behalf. 

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Trump has done more to advance the conservative and Christian causes than this random preacher. If he doesn't want to vote Trump its fine, its a free country, but I hope he stops slandering the President who has fought for him more than anyone in recent history.

This is blasphemous.

[RI]

Some of our blue avatar Evangelicals, here in Atlas, need to click on the link in the OP, and watch the video. They need to hear the preachers words directly in that video.

There have been multiple conservative-leaning Christian posters on here, including ER and myself, who have ripped Trump for this stunt. It's not a popular move among the faithful.

[DaleCooper]

Some of our blue avatar Evangelicals, here in Atlas, need to click on the link in the OP, and watch the video. They need to hear the preachers words directly in that video.

There have been multiple conservative-leaning Christian posters on here, including ER and myself, who have ripped Trump for this stunt. It's not a popular move among the faithful.

You can rip Trump all you want, but the fact is that if you believe what the Bible says then there are currently tens of millions of people who think they're saved but are actually going straight to hell because they're elevating men, like Trump for example, to god-like status. Evangelicals are silent on this because they care more about secular political accomplishments than any of God's commandments.

[Fuzzy Bear]

The Parable of the Two Sons

28 “What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’

29 “‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.

30 “Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go.

31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?”

“The first,” they answered.

Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.

Trump has done more to advance the conservative and Christian causes than this random preacher. If he doesn't want to vote Trump its fine, its a free country, but I hope he stops slandering the President who has fought for him more than anyone in recent history.

Christians are to look to Christ, and not to Trump, or any other mortal human being, for their Salvation.  To the degree that this pastor was addressing this, he is correct.  I doubt Donald Trump spends lots of time reading Scripture (if, indeed, he spends any).  But his selling a Bible is not blasphemous, nor is it heresy, and people who say so don't know what those words mean.  He's not added to the Canon.  (If he has, I challenge you to take Catholics to task for adding the Apocrypha to the Canon; be consistent if you're going to "go there").  And a Trump Bible may well bring someone who needs the Word to read the Word.  

If it were truly Blasphemy, God would strike Donald Trump dead.  There is no forgiveness for blasphemy, and no further purpose for someone's life who commits the sin of aggrieving the Holy Ghost in such a manner.  That hasn't happened.  

Christians have to choose between two (2) candidates.  One of them (Trump) is a sinful man who has advanced issues important to them for Biblical reasons, regardless of what his personal beliefs really are.  The other (Biden) has allied himself with persons who advocate abortion on demand at public expense up until the point of death.  The allies of Biden are people who are downright hostile to Biblical Christianity; they are advocates of SSM, Drag Queen Story Hour, and allowing teachers to discuss questions of Gender Identity with elementary school children without their parents' knowledge or consent.  I could go on and on.  But on Election Day, their choice remains one between a candidate with a record of enacting many IMPORTANT (to Biblical Christians) policy initiatives and a candidate who takes multiple policy positions that are the polar opposite of Scripture and pushes for those positions.

When you vote for a candidate, would you vote for a candidate who (A) stood for the opposite of what you believe when (B) another candidate who believed in what you believe was also on the ballot and had a track record of advancing those positions?  If your choice is option B, pray tell me why Christians should not do the same?

[T'Chenka]

Trump has done more to advance the conservative and Christian causes than this random preacher. If he doesn't want to vote Trump its fine, its a free country, but I hope he stops slandering the President who has fought for him more than anyone in recent history.

Every single Trump cultist who worships the orange cheeto as their false idol is going to burn in hell for all of eternity. If heaven and hell are real. Which, you know, I kind of doubt.

[Burke Bro]

When you vote for a candidate, would you vote for a candidate who (A) stood for the opposite of what you believe when (B) another candidate who believed in what you believe was also on the ballot and had a track record of advancing those positions?  If your choice is option B, pray tell me why Christians should not do the same?

There is a third choice here, which is to not vote at all. Politics is a power game. It’s inherently sinful, encourages idolatry, and politicians who take up the mantle of advancing Christian ideas often create false religions that inadvertently misconstrue the word of God. You say that Trump selling bibles could introduce people to God, but making Trump the face of Christian America could just as easily repel people (such those who don’t agree with Trump on policy/and or find his behavior repulsive), thereby making a path to salvation more difficult for those people.

Changing laws can only do so much to change people’s behavior. The only real way to accomplish that  is by changing hearts. I don’t know a single person whose life has been changed by a government program, but I can name dozens who’ve been changed by a gentle offer to attend church. This is, of course, just my perspective, and I enjoyed reading yours.

[7,052,770]

If it were truly Blasphemy, God would strike Donald Trump dead.  There is no forgiveness for blasphemy, and no further purpose for someone's life who commits the sin of aggrieving the Holy Ghost in such a manner.  That hasn't happened.

Wait, what? If a person is alive, they automatically haven't committed blasphemy because God literally kills anyone who does this? You seriously believe this?

[Inmate Trump]

If it were truly Blasphemy, God would strike Donald Trump dead.  There is no forgiveness for blasphemy, and no further purpose for someone's life who commits the sin of aggrieving the Holy Ghost in such a manner.  That hasn't happened.

Wait, what? If a person is alive, they automatically haven't committed blasphemy because God literally kills anyone who does this? You seriously believe this?

He is beyond hope. He’s the true victim of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

If he’s excusing a man adding items to the Bible and Americanizing God’s Word then he is a Trump supporter first and foremost and being a Christian comes somewhere after that. He is literally putting a false idol ahead of God and he can’t even see it.

[DaleCooper]

If it were truly Blasphemy, God would strike Donald Trump dead.  There is no forgiveness for blasphemy, and no further purpose for someone's life who commits the sin of aggrieving the Holy Ghost in such a manner.  That hasn't happened.

Wait, what? If a person is alive, they automatically haven't committed blasphemy because God literally kills anyone who does this? You seriously believe this?

Boomer evangelicalism is completely distinct from anything resembling Christianity. This isn't even the most absurd biblical interpretation I've heard from a church-going evangelical in the past two days.