MA (Suffolk): Biden +30

[wbrocks67]

Biden (D) 52%
Trump (R) 22%
RFK Jr. (I) 8%
Libertarian Nominee 1%
Green Nominee 1%
West (I) 1%
Undecided 13%

Was Biden 45, Trump 26, RFK 9 in February

https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/massachusetts2/2024/4_25_2024_massachusetts_marginals_embargoed.pdf?la=en&hash=417A31A026394588DCA0C2841A987114D7F20FF8

[wbrocks67]

In February, RFK was getting 7% of Dems and 2% of Reps

Now, he's getting 5% of Dems and 6% of Reps

[Sir Mohamed]

The margin looks realistic, the numbers for Biden and Trump too low. They will crack 60% and 30% respectively.

[wbrocks67]

Rather telling however that despite the narrative around Biden/Trump being so hated, that even in a safe blue state, there is little appetite for third parties (or... low quality third party candidates) given that all 4 together barely crack double digits

[DaleCooper]

Rather telling however that despite the narrative around Biden/Trump being so hated, that even in a safe blue state, there is little appetite for third parties (or... low quality third party candidates) given that all 4 together barely crack double digits

I don't think there is an appetite for third party candidates. People hate the other side and want them to lose. If there ever was a recent time where people wanted other options, it was 2016, and even then the third party candidates didn't do very well. Other than a few anti-establishment conspiracy kooks who like RFK Jr., I have not met anybody who has expressed any interest whatsoever in third parties this year. This wasn't the case in 2016, where a ton of people were virtue signalling about voting third party.

[Dan the Roman]

Rather telling however that despite the narrative around Biden/Trump being so hated, that even in a safe blue state, there is little appetite for third parties (or... low quality third party candidates) given that all 4 together barely crack double digits

I don't think there is an appetite for third party candidates. People hate the other side and want them to lose. If there ever was a recent time where people wanted other options, it was 2016, and even then the third party candidates didn't do very well. Other than a few anti-establishment conspiracy kooks who like RFK Jr., I have not met anybody who has expressed any interest whatsoever in third parties this year. This wasn't the case in 2016, where a ton of people were virtue signalling about voting third party.

A viable third party would be a world where Obama was eligible for a third term and was kept out of the D nomination by Biden machinations. Sort of a 1912 2.0