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Question: Would you consider Mormonism to be Christianity or a separate religion?
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Heterodox branch of Protestantism
 
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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2024, 08:18:06 AM »



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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2024, 07:52:09 PM »

I'm not sure if many people know this, but devout m0rm0ns are absolutely adored in the defense and intelligence communities. 

Despite their crackhead beliefs.  But can pass a TS-SCI clearance in 5 minutes.   lol

And to paraphrase the Elmore James song, you know they won't ever do you wrong.
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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2024, 09:18:19 PM »

If you can create a definition of Christianity broad enough that Mormons could be considered Christians, then that definition would likely be broad enough for Muslims to be considered Christians. If you have to water down the definition of Christianity that much, then what does Christianity even mean?
Muslims don’t consider themselves Christian. And Jesus isn’t at the core of their religion (even if he is an end-times messiah)
I think you could make a very good case the Jesus isn't really at the core of Mormonism either (Adam-God doctrine, Law of eternal progression, Elohim vs Jehovah, etc.) Especially early form of Mormonism (less so in recent years as Mormons have made a concerted effort to pivot towards a more Christian appearance and public persona within the last 50 or so years).

The Adam-God doctrine is not officially taught. My understanding of the difference between Elohim and Jehovah is that Elohim is God the Father and Jehovah is Jesus, and the God of the Old Testament is actually Jesus (the Son) and not the Father. Hardly out of the realm of what I’d call Christian belief. Eternal progression is rather odd, though, yes.
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2024, 10:17:40 AM »

Yes.

It is also for this reason I'm far more likely to convert to Paganism or Buddhism than anything else Christian.

No, I'm not interested in going further in depth.
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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2024, 03:24:32 PM »

It’s not even a religi0n, IMO
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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2024, 09:37:37 AM »

How is it Protestantism they don't hold to Sola fide or Sola scriptura, They belive there the one true church.
Talked to some mormons last month and they say that the apostles in salt lake city have the ability to change doctirens, like the belief that the decendents of jews made it to amerika before columbus. They don't hold to that anymore. They them self did not identify as Protestant.
Neither are there Christians even tho they claim it. As they belive that one self can become God and that God and man are of the same essens.
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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2024, 08:21:21 PM »

Yes, it's its own separate branch of Christianity.
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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2024, 10:49:37 PM »

How is it Protestantism they don't hold to Sola fide or Sola scriptura, They belive there the one true church.
Talked to some mormons last month and they say that the apostles in salt lake city have the ability to change doctirens, like the belief that the decendents of jews made it to amerika before columbus. They don't hold to that anymore. They them self did not identify as Protestant.
Neither are there Christians even tho they claim it. As they belive that one self can become God and that God and man are of the same essens.

Yeah, absolutely nobody with any knowledge of denominations considers Mormons to be Protestants, period.
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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2024, 10:35:14 AM »

How is it Protestantism they don't hold to Sola fide or Sola scriptura, They belive there the one true church.
Talked to some mormons last month and they say that the apostles in salt lake city have the ability to change doctirens, like the belief that the decendents of jews made it to amerika before columbus. They don't hold to that anymore. They them self did not identify as Protestant.
Neither are there Christians even tho they claim it. As they belive that one self can become God and that God and man are of the same essens.

Yeah, absolutely nobody with any knowledge of denominations considers Mormons to be Protestants, period.

Some people consider any post-Reformation non-Cathodox Christian church to be Protestant.
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2024, 10:46:22 AM »

How is it Protestantism they don't hold to Sola fide or Sola scriptura, They belive there the one true church.
Talked to some mormons last month and they say that the apostles in salt lake city have the ability to change doctirens, like the belief that the decendents of jews made it to amerika before columbus. They don't hold to that anymore. They them self did not identify as Protestant.
Neither are there Christians even tho they claim it. As they belive that one self can become God and that God and man are of the same essens.

Yeah, absolutely nobody with any knowledge of denominations considers Mormons to be Protestants, period.

In their organizational structure, they are closest to Catholicism.  In essence, Mormonism has both a magisterium and doctrinal development.
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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2024, 12:39:45 PM »

How is it Protestantism they don't hold to Sola fide or Sola scriptura, They belive there the one true church.
Talked to some mormons last month and they say that the apostles in salt lake city have the ability to change doctirens, like the belief that the decendents of jews made it to amerika before columbus. They don't hold to that anymore. They them self did not identify as Protestant.
Neither are there Christians even tho they claim it. As they belive that one self can become God and that God and man are of the same essens.

Yeah, absolutely nobody with any knowledge of denominations considers Mormons to be Protestants, period.

Some people consider any post-Reformation non-Cathodox Christian church to be Protestant.

I have never seen anyone but a SUPER biased (and usually perpetually online) Catholic suggest this, usually in bad faith as a dig to Protestants.  Absolutely no serious academics or historians classify groups that do not trace heritage from the Reformation (or the groups that spawned from one of those groups, like Anglicans --> Methodists --> Pentecostals). 

Even if one does not hold all Protestant groups to the standard of the Five Solas, Non-Trinitarian groups with an explicitly restorationist assertion that true Christianity was "lost" cannot in any intelligible sense be considered Protestant.  "Non-Trinitarian" is always used as an additional category to Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant in every classification system I have seen.

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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2024, 07:25:27 AM »

How is it Protestantism they don't hold to Sola fide or Sola scriptura, They belive there the one true church.
Talked to some mormons last month and they say that the apostles in salt lake city have the ability to change doctirens, like the belief that the decendents of jews made it to amerika before columbus. They don't hold to that anymore. They them self did not identify as Protestant.
Neither are there Christians even tho they claim it. As they belive that one self can become God and that God and man are of the same essens.

Yeah, absolutely nobody with any knowledge of denominations considers Mormons to be Protestants, period.

In their organizational structure, they are closest to Catholicism.  In essence, Mormonism has both a magisterium and doctrinal development.

Both Russell M. Nelson and Pope Francis have greatly diversified the top leadership ranks from which their successors will be drawn through their picks. For Francis, this means picking South Sudanese and Dalit cardinals, for Nelson this means…picking apostles who aren’t white guys from Utah.
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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2024, 01:09:36 PM »

Yes, and not only that, I consider them to be an off-shoot Protestant branch. 
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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2024, 04:38:24 PM »

Yes, and not only that, I consider them to be an off-shoot Protestant branch. 

An offshoot of what? Just one more part of the restorationist movement like the Disciples of Christ, or more specifically the LDS church as an offshoot of the original Mormon movement? Or Mormonism as an offshoot of the original church established by the Nephites?
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« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2024, 05:48:10 PM »

Option three.
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« Reply #40 on: Today at 12:20:37 PM »

Yes, and not only that, I consider them to be an off-shoot Protestant branch.

I do not even see how this is remotely defensible, but I would be curious to hear your reasoning...

1. For one, they do not CLAIM to be Protestant.  That should end the question right there, frankly.

2. Protestants have to have SOME heritage from the Reformation, and that necessarily includes accepting the pre-Reformation ecumenical councils.  Mormons flat-out reject something as absolutely essential to Protestantism as the Nicene Creed...

3. They aren't even like fringe Non-Trinitarian groups that KIND OF branched out from actual Protestant groups like the Oneness Pentecotsals (from Pentecostalism) or Jehovah's Witnesses (from Adventism).  They sprung up out of the ground in the 1800s with no forebearer denomination, claimed that all of church history of the past 2,000 years was "lost" and introduced completely and totally new holy texts that no other denomination accepts...  Hell, Joseph Smith himself didn't even come directly from a Protestant denomination!

Mormons are as much of a "Protestant offshoot" as they are a "Catholic offshoot" ... in that they literally share zero heritage with either tradition and quite literally started from scratch.
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