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« on: March 15, 2024, 11:55:51 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2024, 11:57:10 AM »
I like how Biden's favorable with Muslims are about the same as Donald "Muslim Ban" Trump
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2024, 12:11:58 PM »
Not surprising if Trump is winning the Popular Vote.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2024, 12:12:11 PM »
One is -21, and the other is -25

But BRB - "third party/independent vote won't exceed 2-3%!"
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2024, 12:13:46 PM »
Quote from: Redban on March 15, 2024, 12:12:11 PM
One is -21, and the other is -25

But BRB - "third party/independent vote won't exceed 2-3%!"

2016 happened.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2024, 12:13:52 PM »
Americans are falling in love. Beautiful to watch.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2024, 12:15:31 PM »
Quote from: Tekken_Guy on March 15, 2024, 12:13:46 PM
Quote from: Redban on March 15, 2024, 12:12:11 PM
One is -21, and the other is -25

But BRB - "third party/independent vote won't exceed 2-3%!"

2016.

Third-party/independent/other combined for 5.73% that year, the highest since 1996
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2024, 12:21:31 PM »
Quote from: Redban on March 15, 2024, 12:12:11 PM
One is -21, and the other is -25

But BRB - "third party/independent vote won't exceed 2-3%!"

The 3rd party vote is obviously going to be in the double digits.

Even in the H-2-H both receive only about 90%.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2024, 12:24:04 PM »
Quote from: oldtimer on March 15, 2024, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: Redban on March 15, 2024, 12:12:11 PM
One is -21, and the other is -25

But BRB - "third party/independent vote won't exceed 2-3%!"

The 3rd party vote is obviously going to be in the double digits.

Even in the H-2-H both receive only about 90%.

Why would it be higher than 2016?
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2024, 12:26:28 PM »
Quote from: Tekken_Guy on March 15, 2024, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: oldtimer on March 15, 2024, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: Redban on March 15, 2024, 12:12:11 PM
One is -21, and the other is -25

But BRB - "third party/independent vote won't exceed 2-3%!"

The 3rd party vote is obviously going to be in the double digits.

Even in the H-2-H both receive only about 90%.

Why would it be higher than 2016?

- More high-profile/well-funded candidates.

- Having a straight independent may be more advantageous than Green/Libertarian because most people identify as independent.

- Biden's net unfavorables are actually even worse than Hillary's in 2016.

- And there is a snowball effect of having people choose between the lesser of the two-evils again: the first time is bad enough, but asking people to do it again makes them more angry
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2024, 12:47:46 PM »
Both of their favorables are hilariously bad. Have we ever had two candidates this hated running against each other before? I don't even think 2016 was this bad.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2024, 12:50:13 PM »
Quote from: Tekken_Guy on March 15, 2024, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: oldtimer on March 15, 2024, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: Redban on March 15, 2024, 12:12:11 PM
One is -21, and the other is -25

But BRB - "third party/independent vote won't exceed 2-3%!"

The 3rd party vote is obviously going to be in the double digits.

Even in the H-2-H both receive only about 90%.

Why would it be higher than 2016?

I think there's a chance it edges out 2016. Double digits certainly isn't happening though.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2024, 01:00:29 PM »
2016 RCP average for favorable/unfavorable

Clinton    41.8/54.4
Trump     37.5/58.5

2024 current RCP average for  favorable/unfavorable

Biden     40.6/55.1
Trump    42.3/54.1

I guess in theory 3rd party vote share in 2024 should be around the same as 2016
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2024, 03:18:28 PM »
Trump and Biden both have nearly 30% unfavorable among their bases is deeply unserious, I'm sorry
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