Trump told Orban he will abandon Ukraine and Europe as a whole if re-elected

[Hindsight was 2020]

Translation:
Without guarantee

Won't give a cent: Trump promised not to give money to Ukraine – Orban.

“Trump said that if he wins the presidential election, he will not fund Ukraine or European security,” - Orban.

“If America doesn't give money, the Europeans alone cannot finance this war, and then the war will end,” emphasized the Hungarian head of government.

According to him, Trump also commented on the situation of European security. The American ex-president said that the time for rearmament had come and that every country should have its own equipment and army to protect itself. Therefore, Trump does not want the US to finance European security and not the Europeans themselves.

Putin agent through and through. Also I love the fact Trump and his goons say that helping Ukraine will case WW3 but here he is telling Orban that Europe needs to rabidly re-militarize something that would increase the odds of a major conflict
https://hirado.hu/belfold/cikk/2024/03/10/orban-viktor-miniszterelnok-exkluziv-interjuja-ma-este-lathato-az-m1-en

[Landslide Lyndon]

What's the news here? He already said a few days ago that Putin can do whatever he wants in Europe.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

[Sirius_]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Hitler. Resources spent in Czechoslovakia can be better used ensuring Hitler doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Chamberlain and Daladier failed to prevent Germany from taking over Czechoslovakia but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

[Landslide Lyndon]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

It's such a shame that Reagan's corpse can't rise from the grave and smack all you Putin simps in the head.

A European

[Hindsight was 2020]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

Beating Putin in Ukraine is literally the best use of resources to prevent Putin encroaching on the rest of Europe lol. What transparent bad faith logic you guys deal in

[Arizona Iced Tea]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Hitler. Resources spent in Czechoslovakia can be better used ensuring Hitler doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Chamberlain and Daladier failed to prevent Germany from taking over Czechoslovakia but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

The problem is nuclear war exists now so we cannot just send troops over like its the 1930s. Also LOL if you think Putin is as bad as Hitler.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

Beating Putin in Ukraine is literally the best use of resources to prevent Putin encroaching on the rest of Europe lol. What transparent bad faith logic you guys deal in

Except Putin will not be defeated barring a US invasion which will not happen. Aid will stalemate for a longer time but it will only lead to more death and destruction.

[Sirius_]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Hitler. Resources spent in Czechoslovakia can be better used ensuring Hitler doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Chamberlain and Daladier failed to prevent Germany from taking over Czechoslovakia but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

The problem is nuclear war exists now so we cannot just send troops over like its the 1930s. Also LOL if you think Putin is as bad as Hitler.

We sent troops over in the 1930s because the non-fascist world failed to stop the rise of Hitler. What we're doing in Ukraine is the opposite: halting Putin before we have to send troops of our own.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Also LOL if you think Putin is as bad as Hitler.

OMFG! You Putin stooges are SO predictable.

https://www.vox.com/2015/2/11/8016017/ny-times-hitler

[Hindsight was 2020]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

Beating Putin in Ukraine is literally the best use of resources to prevent Putin encroaching on the rest of Europe lol. What transparent bad faith logic you guys deal in

Except Putin will not be defeated barring a US invasion which will not happen. Aid will stalemate for a longer time but it will only lead to more death and destruction.

That is an absolute load of crap, Ukraine has shown throughout the war they can beat Russia conventionally in the field when they get sufficient support from the West

[Electric Circus]

Biden spent a decent chunk of time talking about this at his campaign speech in Georgia yesterday. It's hard to believe that what Trump is doing here appeals to many Americans.

[GAinDC]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

Wow, this is a horrible and cowardly take. This is beneath the ideals of America.

[7,052,770]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

After Ukraine falls, you'll use that same argument not to help the next country Putin invades.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

This isn't news. Trump is telling us what he'll do if he's re-elected. It shouldn't be surprising if he lets Putin take whatever he wants.

[Hindsight was 2020]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

After Ukraine falls, you'll use that same argument not to help the next country Putin invades.

Of course that’s why it’s bad faith, notice he went from a position of “abandon Ukraine to protect the rest of Europe” to later saying “Putin has nukes so he can do whatever he wants”

[Arizona Iced Tea]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

After Ukraine falls, you'll use that same argument not to help the next country Putin invades.

I would hope we start enrolling them in NATO asap. Russia would never touch a NATO country because it would be a suicide mission.

[MasterJedi]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

Wow, this is a horrible and cowardly take. This is beneath the ideals of America.

Long gone are the days of Reagan conservatives. Now they just put their butt in the air, spread their cheeks and say “thank you daddy Putin, can I have another?”

[Sirius_]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

After Ukraine falls, you'll use that same argument not to help the next country Putin invades.

I would hope we start enrolling them in NATO asap. Russia would never touch a NATO country because it would be a suicide mission.

It's a suicide mission until we reach the natural conclusion of your logic: to avoid war with Russia, we shouldn't defend NATO members.

[ProudModerate2]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

Your "logic" (if we can  call it that) is completely backwards.

[Ljube]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

Beating Putin in Ukraine is literally the best use of resources to prevent Putin encroaching on the rest of Europe lol. What transparent bad faith logic you guys deal in

Except Putin will not be defeated barring a US invasion which will not happen. Aid will stalemate for a longer time but it will only lead to more death and destruction.

That is an absolute load of crap, Ukraine has shown throughout the war they can beat Russia conventionally in the field when they get sufficient support from the West

You have no idea about the real situation in Ukraine. A friend of mine has just come back from a visit to Ukraine. It is a thoroughly militarized society now and there are only about 20 million of Ukrainians left in the country out of some 42 million before the war.

[Hindsight was 2020]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

Beating Putin in Ukraine is literally the best use of resources to prevent Putin encroaching on the rest of Europe lol. What transparent bad faith logic you guys deal in

Except Putin will not be defeated barring a US invasion which will not happen. Aid will stalemate for a longer time but it will only lead to more death and destruction.

That is an absolute load of crap, Ukraine has shown throughout the war they can beat Russia conventionally in the field when they get sufficient support from the West

You have no idea about the real situation in Ukraine. A friend of mine has just come back from a visit to Ukraine. It is a thoroughly militarized society now and there are only about 20 million of Ukrainians left in the country out of some 42 million before the war.

I know literally know Ukrainian on the ground not taking second hand accounts from friends

[Landslide Lyndon]

You have no idea about the real situation in Ukraine. A friend of mine has just come back from a visit to Ukraine. It is a thoroughly militarized society now and there are only about 20 million of Ukrainians left in the country out of some 42 million before the war.

Your friend took a census while he was in Ukraine?

[Sir Mohamed]

Of course he would. Because he admires Putin for his strongman image. If Trump were totally honest (he basically has been outspoken about it), he'd like to do the exact same things like throwing opponents in jail and murder journalists who don't echo his talking points.

[Liminal Trans Girl]

It's sad but sometimes an amputation is needed to preserve the rest of Europe from the horror of Putin. Resources spent in Ukraine can be better used ensuring Putin doesn't gain an inch of soil anywhere else. Obama and Biden failed to prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine but we can make sure this doesn't happen ever again from a fresh start.

I can't believe that Reincarnation is real and that the Reincarnation of Neville Chamberlain posts on Atlas