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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2024, 10:23:27 AM »

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February 8th - Supreme Court & Nevada Caucus
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IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

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DONALD J. TRUMP,                            )
                          
                           Petitioner,              )
            
             v.                                        )

NORMA ANDERSON, ET AL.,               )

                           Respondents.         )

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In the grandeur of the Supreme Court chamber, the atmosphere is charged with anticipation and the weight of constitutional debate. The Justices, ready to pierce the veil of legal arguments with sharp scrutiny, focus their attention on the petitioner's attorney, who stands, unexpectedly beleaguered, before them.

JUSTICE GORSUCH, his skepticism thinly veiled, addresses the petitioner's attorney with a challenging question.

JUSTICE GORSUCH: "Counsel, your argument posits that the presidency is exempt from the definition of 'officer of the United States' under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment. How do you reconcile this with the clear intent of the Amendment to protect the Constitution against insurrection?"

The petitioner's attorney, taken aback by the directness of the question, fumbles slightly with his notes before responding.

PETITIONER'S ATTORNEY: "Justice Gorsuch, we... we maintain that the framers' intent was specific and did not envision the presidency within this scope. The... the historical context, we believe, supports this interpretation."

His response, less confident than intended, hangs in the air, inviting further challenge.

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JUSTICE KAGAN, seizing on the moment of uncertainty, presses further.

JUSTICE KAGAN: "But isn't it a stretch to argue that the presidency, which is quintessentially a position of public trust under the United States, would be excluded from measures designed to protect the republic from insurrection?"

The petitioner's attorney struggles to marshal his thoughts, the pressure of the moment evident.

PETITIONER'S ATTORNEY: "Your Honor, the... the distinction lies in the constitutional text and the framers' precise language. We argue for a narrow interpretation, although I acknowledge the Court's concerns regarding the broader implications."

His acknowledgment reveals the strain of defending an increasingly tenuous position.

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JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, not letting the moment pass, delves deeper into the heart of the matter.

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: "Counsel, consider the dangerous precedent your argument sets. If a presidential candidate who has engaged in insurrection is not deemed an 'officer of the United States,' what message does that send about our commitment to uphold the Constitution?"

Caught off guard, the petitioner's attorney's response is halting, revealing the depth of his predicament.

PETITIONER'S ATTORNEY: "Justice Sotomayor, I... we understand the Court's concern. However, our stance is that Congress retains the authority to address such matters, not... not necessarily through this provision."

His answer, attempting to navigate the legal and constitutional quandaries, falls short of assuaging the Court's skepticism.

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JUSTICE BARRETT, with a keen eye on the broader constitutional landscape, questions the practical implications.

JUSTICE BARRETT: "And what of the states' role in this? Are we to overlook the states' authority to ensure that candidates for the presidency meet all constitutional qualifications, including those related to insurrection?"

The petitioner's attorney, visibly struggling under the weight of the Court's scrutiny, seeks refuge in procedural arguments.

PETITIONER'S ATTORNEY: "Justice Barrett, while the states indeed play a critical role in our electoral process, our argument focuses on the constitutional... the specific textual interpretation. It's a delicate balance, admittedly."

His admission of the argument's delicacy underscores the challenges he faces in convincing a skeptical Court.

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JUSTICE ALITO, his voice calm but carrying a sharp undercurrent, directs a question to the petitioner's attorney.

JUSTICE ALITO: "Counsel, considering the historical context and the framers' intent, how do you view the potential consequences of broadening the scope of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment beyond its textual boundaries?"

PETITIONER'S ATTORNEY (with a respectful nod towards Justice Alito): "Justice Alito, broadening the scope of Section 3 risks entering into uncharted constitutional territory. It could lead to a slippery slope where eligibility for the presidency is determined by subjective interpretations rather than the clear, original text of the Constitution. This, we argue, is antithetical to the framers' intent and the democratic principles our nation holds dear."

The attorney’s response, carefully crafted, echoes Justice Alito’s concerns, reinforcing a conservative approach to constitutional interpretation.

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JUSTICE THOMAS, leaning forward, his demeanor serious, frames his inquiry to further bolster the petitioner’s position.

JUSTICE THOMAS: "And counsel, in your assessment, how critical is it to maintain a strict textualist approach in interpreting the Constitution, especially concerning eligibility for high office? Would deviating from this approach not potentially undermine the Constitution's stability and predictability?"

PETITIONER'S ATTORNEY (turning to address Justice Thomas directly): "Absolutely, Justice Thomas. The stability and predictability of our constitutional democracy hinge on our adherence to a textualist interpretation. Straying from the Constitution’s explicit language not only sets a dangerous precedent but also diminishes the judiciary’s role as an interpreter, not maker, of the law. It's paramount that we remain anchored to the text to safeguard the integrity of our electoral process and the Constitution itself."

The attorney’s words, resonating with Justice Thomas’s point, subtly critique the broader interpretive methods hinted at by other justices, emphasizing a conservative judicial philosophy.

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The other justices listen intently, the exchange highlighting the ideological rifts within the Court. The petitioner’s attorney, taking advantage of the moment provided by Justices Alito and Thomas, skillfully navigates the nuanced legal landscape, his arguments a testament to the complex interplay of law, politics, and constitutional interpretation.

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Washington — In an unexpected turn that has legal pundits and the public reeling, the Supreme Court's oral arguments in the landmark case Trump v. Anderson revealed a level of skepticism from its conservative justices that few had anticipated. The case, pivotal in determining former President Donald Trump's eligibility for future office under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, was initially thought to lean in Trump's favor given the Court's conservative makeup. However, the probing questions and evident skepticism from Justices Neil Gorsuch, Amy Coney Barrett, and Brett Kavanaugh have cast doubt on this assumption, signaling a potential upheaval in the expected outcome.

The focus of the case on whether the presidency is exempt from the "officer of the United States" classification, and thus immune to Section 3's disqualification for engaging in insurrection, has sparked intense debate. Trump's legal team argued for a narrow interpretation that excludes the presidency from this provision, a stance that was met with critical questioning from the bench.

Justice Gorsuch, known for his textualist approach, surprised observers by questioning the logical underpinnings of excluding the presidency from the amendment's reach. "If the text of our Constitution and the history of our country support the inclusion of the presidency within the ambit of Section 3, are we to ignore this evidence for a narrower interpretation?" Gorsuch inquired, highlighting the tension between textual fidelity and the petitioner's argument.

Justice Barrett, whose appointment was thought to solidify the Court's conservative bent, expressed concern over the implications of the petitioner's stance for the Constitution's integrity. "How does excluding the highest office in the land from such a fundamental safeguard reconcile with the amendment's purpose to protect the Constitution?" Barrett asked, underscoring the justices' deep engagement with the case's constitutional questions.

Justice Kavanaugh, meanwhile, delved into the historical context of the Fourteenth Amendment, suggesting a broader interpretation might be warranted. "Considering the amendment was crafted in the aftermath of civil strife, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that its protections were meant to encompass all offices, especially the presidency?" Kavanaugh posited, challenging the petitioner's narrow framing.

The justices' lines of questioning indicate a Court grappling with the weighty constitutional principles at play, far removed from the clear-cut ideological divisions many expected to dominate the proceedings. "The skepticism from Justices Gorsuch, Barrett, and Kavanaugh was a stark departure from the pre-hearing predictions," noted Elena Simmons, a professor of constitutional law. "Their questions reflect a Court conscious of the historical significance of their decision and its impact on the future of American democracy."

This unexpected judicial skepticism has left legal analysts speculating about the potential for a groundbreaking decision. "The questions from the bench today suggest that the Court is taking a very careful look at the broader implications of this case, beyond the immediate legal arguments," said Supreme Court analyst Jonathan Peters. "It's a reminder that the justices, regardless of their ideological leanings, are ultimately guided by a commitment to the Constitution."

As the nation awaits the Supreme Court's decision, the oral arguments in Trump v. Anderson have underscored the unpredictability of constitutional interpretation and the profound responsibility shouldered by the Court. The skepticism displayed by Gorsuch, Barrett, and Kavanaugh, in particular, has introduced a new layer of complexity to the case, challenging assumptions about the Court's conservative majority and setting the stage for a potentially historic ruling.

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Trump Wins Nevada Caucus


Las Vegas, NV — Former President Donald Trump emerged victorious in the Nevada Republican caucus, securing all 26 delegates with a staggering 99% of the vote, a mere two days after Nikki Haley's symbolic win in the state's primary. Haley's triumph on February 6th, which did not contribute to delegate allocation due to GOP rules, set the stage for a contentious week in Republican politics, highlighting fractures within the party and sparking debate over its nominating process.

The Supreme Court's examination of Trump v. Anderson earlier in the day added a layer of drama, as justices, including those appointed by Trump, scrutinized the legal basis for his potential disqualification under the Fourteenth Amendment. This unexpected turn of events in the courtroom sharply contrasted with Trump's near-unanimous caucus win, underscoring a day filled with political and legal intrigue.

In his victory speech, Trump did not hold back, targeting the Supreme Court and its justices with characteristic bluntness. "You wouldn't believe it. We put these justices in thinking they'd do the right thing, but no, they're out there acting like they don't know who put them there. It's a disgrace, a total disgrace," Trump thundered to his supporters. His rhetoric escalated as he addressed the justices directly, "You're there to protect our Constitution, our country, and you're failing miserably. We're watching you, and the people are watching you. There might have to be consequences because we can't let this go on."

Trump's fiery words didn't stop at the judiciary. He took aim at the broader political landscape and those he perceives as obstructing his path. "And to those in the GOP trying to stop us, remember, we're the party of the people. If you're not with us, you're against America, and you'll be seen as such. We'll remember every betrayal, every backstabber when we're back in power," Trump warned, signaling a deepening rift within the Republican ranks and hinting at a tumultuous path ahead for party unity.

Meanwhile, Nikki Haley, leveraging her primary win as a moral victory, reiterated her commitment to challenging the status quo within the GOP. "This campaign is about truth, integrity, and the soul of the Republican Party. We will not be silenced by those who wish to maintain their grip on power through intimidation and threats," Haley stated, positioning herself as a bulwark against Trump's divisive tactics.

Trump's incendiary comments and Haley's determined stance underscore the volatile dynamics within the Republican Party and the high stakes of the ongoing Supreme Court deliberations. As the legal battle over Trump's eligibility unfolds, his unabashed willingness to confront his detractors — including the justices he nominated — has set the stage for a political showdown that will reverberate through the 2024 presidential race and beyond.

With the GOP at a crossroads and the nation closely watching the Supreme Court's next moves, Trump's latest remarks are a reminder of the deep divisions and the fierce battle for the soul of American politics.
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2024, 05:12:05 PM »

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February 13th - The Final Verdict: Collapse of the Grand Old Party
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SUPREME COURT VOTES TO DISQUALIFY TRUMP 7-2



[INTENSE BREAKING NEWS MUSIC BLARES]

[SCENE: A frantic CNN newsroom. The camera quickly zooms in on WOLF BLITZER, who is visibly caught off guard, adjusting his earpiece, and tapping at his tablet screen. The backdrop is a live feed of the Supreme Court with crowds swelling in size.]

WOLF BLITZER: [Speaking hastily, almost breathlessly] "We interrupt our regular programming with breaking news – I’m Wolf Blitzer in Washington. An absolute bombshell from the Supreme Court – just moments ago, a ruling... [pauses, listens to earpiece] hold on, we’re getting this live... the Court has upheld the disqualification of Donald Trump from... [pauses again, flustered] from any future office under the Fourteenth Amendment. This is... folks, this is unprecedented."

[Blitzer tries to continue, but is visibly distracted by updates coming in.]

WOLF BLITZER: "We’ve got... [glances off-camera] chaos, it appears, breaking out on the steps of the Supreme Court. Our team is there... [turns back to camera, trying to regain composure] Let’s try to understand this ruling. Justice Gorsuch, in the majority opinion, stating – and I quote, ‘the presidency, as an office under the United States, is subject to the Fourteenth Amendment’s provisions.’ This is a direct... [pauses, overwhelmed] direct impact on Trump's future in politics."

[CUT TO: Split screen with BLITZER and LAURA COATES. Coates is seen hastily scrolling through her tablet, trying to read from the digital document.]

WOLF BLITZER: "Laura, can you... [interrupted by shouting from the live feed] can you make sense of this?"

LAURA COATES: [Clearly trying to keep pace] "Wolf, I’m looking at the opinion right now, and it’s... [distracted by the live feed] it’s clear the Court is not mincing words. They’ve deemed Trump's actions around January 6 as... [pauses, reading] 'engagement in insurrection.' This is... [interrupted by more shouting] sorry, Wolf, it’s hard to keep up. We’re seeing history here, and the implications are... [sudden loud noises from the live feed interrupt] massive."

[CUT TO: Full screen of the Supreme Court steps. The live feed shows protesters clashing with police, the situation rapidly escalating. The sounds of shouting, sirens, and chaos are unmistakable.]

WOLF BLITZER (V.O.): [Voice over the chaos] "Folks, what you’re seeing is live – tensions boiling over at the Supreme Court following this shocking decision. Police are... [pauses, searching for words] they’re trying to control the situation. This ruling, it’s not just a legal bombshell; it’s a political earthquake."

[CUT BACK TO: BLITZER, who looks shaken, trying to regain control of the segment.]

WOLF BLITZER: "We’re... we’re going to stay on this, try to get you the latest from the ground, from the Court, from everywhere. This story is developing faster than we can report it. Laura, any final thoughts as we... [pauses, indicating the overwhelming nature of the news] as we try to process this?"

LAURA COATES: [Speaking over more interruptions] "Wolf, today changes everything. The legal, political landscape – it’s fundamentally altered. And as for the scenes we’re witnessing... [pauses, acknowledging the chaos] democracy is being tested today, on every front."

WOLF BLITZER: "Tested indeed. Stay with CNN, folks. We’re your eyes and ears in Washington and across the nation as this unprecedented story unfolds. I’m Wolf Blitzer, and this... [glances at the live feed, then back to the camera] this is CNN, your source for breaking news."

[OUTRO MUSIC PLAYS ABRUPTLY]

[FADE OUT]

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Majority Opinion Delivered by Justice Neil Gorsuch


This Court, entrusted with the solemn duty to safeguard the Constitution, confronts a question of profound significance: whether actions attributed to former President Donald J. Trump, in the context surrounding January 6, 2021, render him ineligible for future office under the aegis of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment. This provision, crafted in the aftermath of civil strife, articulates a clear mandate against those who, sworn to uphold the Constitution, instead act to dismantle its very foundations.

Constitutional Provisions and Interpretations

The heart of this dispute lies in the interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment, specifically its third section, which proscribes office-holding for individuals who have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution. The respondents argue that the former President's conduct vis-à-vis January 6 constitutes such engagement, necessitating disqualification. Conversely, the petitioner contests the applicability of this sanction to the presidency, suggesting a departure from historical precedent and constitutional intent.

Jurisprudential Analysis

Upon exhaustive examination of the text, the historical underpinnings of the Fourteenth Amendment, and pertinent jurisprudential precedents, this Court finds that the presidency, as the pinnacle of the Executive Branch, unequivocally constitutes an "office under the United States." Exempting the highest office from this provision would contravene the Amendment's purpose and the structural safeguards it establishes.

Moreover, the evidence and legal arguments compel us to conclude that the former President's actions, both direct and indirect, in relation to the events of January 6, meet the constitutional threshold of engagement in insurrection. These actions, in their aggregate, not only breached the oath of office but also sought to subvert the electoral process and disrupt the peaceful transfer of power, core tenets of our constitutional democracy.

Conclusion and Implications

Therefore, in accordance with the principles enshrined in the Constitution and the protective intent of the Fourteenth Amendment, we hold that former President Donald J. Trump is disqualified from holding any office, civil or military, under the United States. This disqualification, pursuant to the Amendment's language and intent, extends uniformly across all states, reinforcing the national scope of our constitutional safeguards.

In rendering this decision, the Court reaffirms the Constitution's resilience and its paramountcy over individual ambitions. This ruling, grounded in a meticulous interpretation of the Constitution, underscores that no individual, irrespective of their prior position, is above the constitutional framework that governs us all.

It is so ordered.

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Dissent Delivered by Justice Samuel Alito


In the grave matter of Trump v. Anderson, the Supreme Court has, with profound regret, descended into the depths of judicial adventurism, issuing a ruling that not only misinterprets the Constitution but ominously signals the judiciary's encroachment into the sovereign domain of electoral integrity and federalism. By upholding the disqualification of former President Donald J. Trump from future office under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, this Court has not merely erred; it has embarked on a perilous path that threatens the very bedrock of our constitutional order.

A Misguided Interpretation of Section 3

The majority's decision rests on a precarious and unprecedented interpretation of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, extending its application in a manner that the framers of the Amendment could not have anticipated. This section was designed in the post-Civil War era to prevent individuals who had actively participated in insurrection against the United States from holding office. However, the majority's broad application to the presidency—a role explicitly outlined and separated by the Constitution—ignores the intricate balance of powers and the specific mechanisms for impeachment and removal therein.

The Erosion of Federalism

By allowing a single state's interpretation of "engagement in insurrection" to dictate eligibility for national office, the Court undermines the federalist principles that are foundational to our Republic. The decision grants an individual state undue influence over national electoral outcomes, contravening the Constitution's design to balance state sovereignty with national unity. This not only sets a dangerous precedent for future elections but also ignites potential for vast disparities in electoral eligibility criteria across states, disrupting the uniformity crucial to the federal electoral process.

Judicial Activism and the Threat to Democracy

Today’s ruling is emblematic of judicial activism at its most flagrant, with the Court assuming a legislative role that the Constitution neither envisages nor permits. This intrusion into the political realm is a clear departure from our judiciary's mandate to interpret, not make, laws. By disqualifying a candidate through judicial fiat, this Court has effectively disenfranchised millions of American voters, supplanting the electoral process with a judicial verdict. This act not only diminishes the sanctity of the vote but also erodes public confidence in the impartiality of the judiciary.

Conclusion: A Foreboding Future

The implications of this decision are dire and far-reaching. It heralds a future where judicial overreach threatens the delicate balance of our constitutional democracy, inviting chaos into our electoral system and undermining the principles of federalism and separation of powers that have guided our nation since its inception. The majority’s ruling is not a victory for constitutional law but a dark chapter in its annals, marking a departure from judicial restraint and a venture into dangerous waters of political adjudication.

It is with a profound sense of urgency and warning that I dissent. Today's decision does not merely concern the eligibility of a single individual but strikes at the heart of our democratic principles, threatening to transform the judiciary into an arbiter of political disputes, contrary to the very essence of our constitutional design. This is a path fraught with peril, leading us away from the rule of law and towards an uncertain future dominated by judicial supremacy over the electoral will of the people.
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2024, 05:13:15 PM »

Things are about to get real messy...
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2024, 05:25:44 PM »

WOW, what now?
My guess the only two Justices voting in dissent are Associate Justices Samuel Alito & Clarence Thomas.

Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, John Roberts voting with Elena Kagen, Sonja Sotomayor and Ketanji Brown-Jackson carries some massive weight.

Trump will go on a Full Rant here soon I suspect.

And Nikki Haley has to make a Statement on this as well and walk a fine line without alienating Supporters of the former President.
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2024, 05:43:49 PM »

My guess the only two Justices voting in dissent are Associate Justices Samuel Alito & Clarence Thomas.

That is correct. Thomas was the second dissenter.
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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2024, 07:09:22 PM »

Love the twist!
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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2024, 11:23:53 PM »

I wonder if Trumpers will try to do a Jan 6th at SCOTUS
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2024, 05:43:50 AM »

Props to the Trumpster for having the guts and courage to file a SCOTUS-worthy lawsuit against a nonagenarian who doesn't really like his political positions.

Also, why do those court rulings look like the byproducts of ChatGPT rather than actual court rulings? Say what you like about Trump's lawyers IRL; their most recent petition to SCOTUS is more professionally written than either of those rulings.
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« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2024, 04:56:37 PM »

Nice edit with the news screenshot.
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« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2024, 05:14:40 PM »

Those graphics might be an all time high for Atlas timelines, fantastic work!
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« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2024, 05:13:30 AM »

Love these graphics! Feels like this is real.

How do you upload images to this site?
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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2024, 09:08:26 PM »

Bump! Please continue!
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