What’s Biden’s legacy should he lose to Trump in 2024?

[Donald Trump’s Toupée]

What’s Biden’s legacy should he lose to Trump in 2024?

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

He won't lose

[emailking]

If Biden loses his legacy kind of sucks and it will almost feel like what was the point even. If Biden wins then Trump is just an aberration, an interregnum in the Obama-Biden years.

[Sir Mohamed]

Most likely he'll be seen as a man who didn't know when the quit. Ergo, that he shouldn't have run for reelection. Possibly depends on the election result as well.

His election in 2020 could be seen as a fluke or mainly a result of the pandemic and Trump's incompetence to handle it.

[ClassicElectionEnthusiast]

Should Biden lose, I agree that his legacy will be that his election was a pandemic-related fluke.

[Adjective-Statement]

The narrative would probably end up downplaying his agency, attributing his election to COVID and his failed reelection to its aftershocks. The script would flip and Republicans would stick their heads in the sand while Democrats would acknowledge how bad things are.

[oldtimer]

Best case: Having ice cream on TV.

Average: Revealing to everyone how a Hillary Presidency would probably have gone.

Worst/Best (depending who you are) case: Doing to the Democrats what Bush W. did to the Republican Establishment.

Absolute bottom: Democrats joining the Republicans in refusing to say he was ever President, so it's not their fault.

[The Economy is Getting Worse]

40 year high inflation, global chaos, migrant crisis, old age, etc.

[Illiniwek]

Similar to RBG. A legend who fumbled the ball at the end.

[Beet]

Basically he was the second term of Trump. He consolidated Trumpian policies in terms of industrial policy, protectionism, and oversaw a rightward shift on immigration. He crushed the progressive wing of his Party and the traditional activist causes like BLM, woke, #Resist, Medicare4All, free college, minimum wage, anti-war, socialism, etc. collapsed. The "Squad" and the Bernie wing became irrelevant. Although he did not contribute to it, the Trump-shaped Supreme Court came of age during his presidency. The rise of TradCath culture and the right-wing reemergence online. Decisive backlash against trans rights, drag shows, etc. He moved his party towards being the pro-police, pro-establishment and pro-war party. During his presidency people like Liz Cheney shifted towards the Democrats. He was essentially the left wing of Trumpism and gave Trump four needed years to regroup, re-consolidate and formulate a carefully considered plan for how to take on the Deep State in his second personal term.

This period has been a bridge between the first term of Trump, when a man who didn't expect to win perhaps, was suddenly thrust into power with no idea what he was doing, and only started to learn how to do the things he wanted to do towards the very end of his term; and the third term of Trump, when Trumpism will be implemented in America once and for all.

[Compuzled_One]

Almost like Benjamin Harrison, with all the qualities ballooned-a reluctant, boring leader sandwiched between the more memorable so-called man of the people's terms, who a niche group of people recognize had some good policies and was sandwiched between the terms of a morally horrid man. He'll likely be viewed either a bit worse or better depending on if he wins the PV.

[Eraserhead]

Basically he was the second term of Trump. He consolidated Trumpian policies in terms of industrial policy, protectionism, and oversaw a rightward shift on immigration. He crushed the progressive wing of his Party and the traditional activist causes like BLM, woke, #Resist, Medicare4All, free college, minimum wage, anti-war, socialism, etc. collapsed. The "Squad" and the Bernie wing became irrelevant. Although he did not contribute to it, the Trump-shaped Supreme Court came of age during his presidency. The rise of TradCath culture and the right-wing reemergence online. Decisive backlash against trans rights, drag shows, etc. He moved his party towards being the pro-police, pro-establishment and pro-war party. During his presidency people like Liz Cheney shifted towards the Democrats. He was essentially the left wing of Trumpism and gave Trump four needed years to regroup, re-consolidate and formulate a carefully considered plan for how to take on the Deep State in his second personal term.

This period has been a bridge between the first term of Trump, when a man who didn't expect to win perhaps, was suddenly thrust into power with no idea what he was doing, and only started to learn how to do the things he wanted to do towards the very end of his term; and the third term of Trump, when Trumpism will be implemented in America once and for all.

Damn, Beet is posting 🔥🔥🔥 these days.

[jojoju1998]

Basically he was the second term of Trump. He consolidated Trumpian policies in terms of industrial policy, protectionism, and oversaw a rightward shift on immigration. He crushed the progressive wing of his Party and the traditional activist causes like BLM, woke, #Resist, Medicare4All, free college, minimum wage, anti-war, socialism, etc. collapsed. The "Squad" and the Bernie wing became irrelevant. Although he did not contribute to it, the Trump-shaped Supreme Court came of age during his presidency. The rise of TradCath culture and the right-wing reemergence online. Decisive backlash against trans rights, drag shows, etc. He moved his party towards being the pro-police, pro-establishment and pro-war party. During his presidency people like Liz Cheney shifted towards the Democrats. He was essentially the left wing of Trumpism and gave Trump four needed years to regroup, re-consolidate and formulate a carefully considered plan for how to take on the Deep State in his second personal term.

This period has been a bridge between the first term of Trump, when a man who didn't expect to win perhaps, was suddenly thrust into power with no idea what he was doing, and only started to learn how to do the things he wanted to do towards the very end of his term; and the third term of Trump, when Trumpism will be implemented in America once and for all.

That's a huge hot take. The police stuff especially since before Trump's election, in 2016, it was always the Democrats who backed police funding, pensions, against Republicans like Romney who said we didn't need more police. I remember those days quite well.

Furthermore, the industrial policy has actually been part of the " old " left, progressive branch. Think of Hubert Humphrey, and the Old New dealer paradigm before the 1970s.

Remember. It was FDR, who directed the whole industrial complex government system to begin with.



We can for sure say that neolibralism is dead.

[Progressive Pessimist]

A man with much worse luck than his predecessor.

[Whale Psychiatrist]

Does Benjamin Harrison even have a legacy? Similar to that.

[Comrade Funk]

James Buchanan 2.0

[Mr. Smith]

Does Benjamin Harrison even have a legacy? Similar to that.

Hawaii.

[Move Forward]

Jimmy Carter 2.0

[henster]

He'll probably be the last Dem presidential nominee over 70+ for a very long time. I think Dem voters will look harshly on all older candidates for every office going forward because of Biden.

[DaleCooper]

Similar to Ginsburg. Ruined his legacy by being too stubborn to call it quits at the right time.