NYT caught again interviewing 'Independents' who are actually Trump voters
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« on: March 04, 2024, 01:42:15 PM »

Funny how this keeps on happening.

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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2024, 01:43:23 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2024, 01:45:36 PM »

Aha! ... now we can unskew all those Trump +3% polls to show that Biden is actually winning by 7%
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2024, 02:02:56 PM »

I tried unskewing polls in 2012.
The results were abysmal.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2024, 02:05:16 PM »

This is why you cannot trust the New York Times. They want Trump to be President again so they can sell more papers.
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2024, 02:13:18 PM »

Plenty of independents voted for Trump (and Biden). Don't see why that's a problem unless you think independent=third party voter which isn't really the case.

I've been straight ticket Dem since 16 but I still don't consider myself a Democrat (and am not registered as one) because I disagree with substantial portions of their platform.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2024, 02:47:22 PM »

Yikes. This has happened more than onece
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2024, 03:05:33 PM »

Man liked two Trump tweets in spring 2020 = big Trump guy, OK. I guess nobody who voted for Trump in 2016 was able to vote against him in 2020 either, and the same applies to Biden voters between 2020 and 2024?
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2024, 03:07:18 PM »

The "liberal" New York Times, Ladies and Gentlemen.
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2024, 03:13:38 PM »

The "liberal" New York Times, Ladies and Gentlemen.
As if they haven’t endorsed every single Democrat since 1960.
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2024, 03:23:51 PM »

Funny how this keeps on happening.


Christ, the reach.
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2024, 03:39:12 PM »

The "liberal" New York Times, Ladies and Gentlemen.
As if they haven’t endorsed every single Democrat since 1960.

The editorial board is not the management. If the management feels Trump is good for business then they will do whatever they have to. The weekend before the election I guarantee you they will have Tara Reade on the front page with her discredited story.

Funny how this keeps on happening.


Christ, the reach.

What is the reach? The Times published a story without vetting it's sources. It's the same thing as Biden supporter misrepresenting themselves as Trump supporter and talking about his mental state to a newspaper, it's a misrepresentation period.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2024, 03:40:23 PM »

Even the New York Times can’t find independents who like Joe Biden.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2024, 04:10:24 PM »

Man liked two Trump tweets in spring 2020 = big Trump guy, OK. I guess nobody who voted for Trump in 2016 was able to vote against him in 2020 either, and the same applies to Biden voters between 2020 and 2024?

Why are people being dense about this? The mans social media is more than just two Trump tweets. It's clear he's not an Independent, and if he was a Trump fan, he likely was never a Biden supporter. The issue here is that NYT presents these people as fair and honest actors when often, the people they're claiming are "Independent" (code for in the middle) are often very partisan.

It's the same thing as how MSNBC and NBC have both been caught doing 'voter panels' with people who have been found out later to be hard partisans/activists, despite the show presenting them as just "an average voter."

It's bad and tacky journalism. NYT has a narrative, and they find people to support it. This guy may literally be a registered Independent, but he's clearly not what they're trying to make him out to be.
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2024, 04:32:29 PM »

Look, the NYT has to do something when they're not running "Biden is really old" stories. What do you expect them to do? Cover Trump spewing actual gibberish?
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2024, 06:27:29 PM »

There are plenty of rabid conservatives and leftists who are registered as independent. Are you guys new or just insanely ignorant?
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2024, 07:23:31 PM »

Seems like a nothingburger.
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2024, 07:46:43 PM »

The next time I'm polled I'm going to identify as Trump 2016-2020 voter who is very concerned about his mental state and is voting for Biden. Since it's "nothingburger" then why not shake things up in polling? It certainly would even things up.
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2024, 07:50:44 PM »

Man liked two Trump tweets in spring 2020 = big Trump guy, OK. I guess nobody who voted for Trump in 2016 was able to vote against him in 2020 either, and the same applies to Biden voters between 2020 and 2024?

Why are people being dense about this? The mans social media is more than just two Trump tweets. It's clear he's not an Independent, and if he was a Trump fan, he likely was never a Biden supporter. The issue here is that NYT presents these people as fair and honest actors when often, the people they're claiming are "Independent" (code for in the middle) are often very partisan.

It's the same thing as how MSNBC and NBC have both been caught doing 'voter panels' with people who have been found out later to be hard partisans/activists, despite the show presenting them as just "an average voter."

It's bad and tacky journalism. NYT has a narrative, and they find people to support it. This guy may literally be a registered Independent, but he's clearly not what they're trying to make him out to be.

You're asking why Trump supporters/Republicans are being dense?
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2024, 09:03:42 PM »

Polling is wrong because people like this are lying to pollsters.
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2024, 09:52:31 PM »

There are plenty of rabid conservatives and leftists who are registered as independent. Are you guys new or just insanely ignorant?
He doesn’t want to believe Biden is behind. It’s simple human nature and the idea that Biden is actually behind makes him uncomfortable.
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2024, 09:56:46 PM »

There are plenty of rabid conservatives and leftists who are registered as independent. Are you guys new or just insanely ignorant?
He doesn’t want to believe Biden is behind. It’s simple human nature and the idea that Biden is actually behind makes him uncomfortable.

This independent of polling though. A reputable newspaper is publishing stories without adequately checking it's sources. It's not that person in question said they are an independent, it's that they are representing themselves as Biden voter when they are not.
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2024, 09:58:40 PM »
« Edited: March 04, 2024, 10:03:01 PM by The Economy is Getting Worse »

There are plenty of rabid conservatives and leftists who are registered as independent. Are you guys new or just insanely ignorant?
He doesn’t want to believe Biden is behind. It’s simple human nature and the idea that Biden is actually behind makes him uncomfortable.

This independent of polling though. A reputable newspaper is publishing stories without adequately checking it's sources. It's not that person in question said they are an independent, it's that they are representing themselves as Biden voter when they are not.
A few liked tweets does not mean they supported Trump back then. It’s also possible the riots and COVID switched his mind. He wasn’t really active between May and the election.
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2024, 10:10:23 PM »

There are plenty of rabid conservatives and leftists who are registered as independent. Are you guys new or just insanely ignorant?
He doesn’t want to believe Biden is behind. It’s simple human nature and the idea that Biden is actually behind makes him uncomfortable.

This independent of polling though. A reputable newspaper is publishing stories without adequately checking it's sources. It's not that person in question said they are an independent, it's that they are representing themselves as Biden voter when they are not.
A few liked tweets does not mean they supported Trump back then. It’s also possible the riots and COVID switched his mind. He wasn’t really active between May and the election.

Speculation is not fact. The facts on the record suggest that he is a Trump supporter and evidence is what matters. Do you know this man personally? I'm assuming you do sense you are stating that he changed his mind. Or you're just lying about knowing him.
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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2024, 10:11:18 PM »

There are plenty of rabid conservatives and leftists who are registered as independent. Are you guys new or just insanely ignorant?
He doesn’t want to believe Biden is behind. It’s simple human nature and the idea that Biden is actually behind makes him uncomfortable.

This independent of polling though. A reputable newspaper is publishing stories without adequately checking it's sources. It's not that person in question said they are an independent, it's that they are representing themselves as Biden voter when they are not.
A few liked tweets does not mean they supported Trump back then. It’s also possible the riots and COVID switched his mind. He wasn’t really active between May and the election.

Speculation is not fact. The facts on the record suggest that he is a Trump supporter and evidence is what matters. Do you know this man personally? I'm assuming you do sense you are stating that he changed his mind. Or you're just lying about knowing him.
It’s better than assuming he is lying just because you want to discredit a poll so it makes you feel better. He did not really support Trump the few months before the election.
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