If Trump wins, will the 2028 election be free and fair?

[Tekken_Guy]

If Trump wins, will the 2028 election be free and fair?

[Duke of York]

no

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Lol Trump won't win

[Compuzled_One]

Yes, purely because 7-9 SC Justices wouldn't live if he tried anything crazy, and the military ain't loyal enough.

[Mercenary]

To the extent that it is today. So yes and no. That regardless who "wins".

[Spectator]

Obviously. Did we see how incompetent Trump's administration was the first time? LOL. Regardless, SCOTUS wouldn't ever allow it despite delusions to the contrary. Dems control all the swing states. The military won't allow it. To suggest otherwise is insulting. Will Trump try to do some stupid authoritarian stuff like that? Probably. Will he succeed? No shot.

[Randy Marsh]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

[Yellowhammer]

No. Democracy will be dead.

[GAinDC]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

[Tekken_Guy]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

Yeah and he failed.

[DrScholl]

Even if it is fair there would be major damages to democracy from him refusing to leave office.

[BlueSwan]

There's a great risk that it won't be and it is a risk that should not be taken.

[Tekken_Guy]

Even if it is fair there would be major damages to democracy from him refusing to leave office.

If Trump refuses to leave office will he get away with it this time?

[GAinDC]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

Yeah and he failed.

Your logic is like “the burglar tried to rob us but failed, therefore we should let him in our house again”

[Duke 🇺🇸]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

Yeah and he failed.

Trump will make sure this time, he's surrounded by loyalists. We were a Mike Pence away from a constitutional crisis on J6. You're a fool if you don't think he will try again, and he could succeed this time.

[DrScholl]

Even if it is fair there would be major damages to democracy from him refusing to leave office.

If Trump refuses to leave office will he get away with it this time?

No, because he is term limited and not even allowed to be on the ballot. He can refuse to physically leave the White House, but that's not relevant because the actual President can do business from anywhere. But it would create a chaotic situation if the authorities had to physically remove him from the grounds.

[Tekken_Guy]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

Yeah and he failed.

Your logic is like “the burglar tried to rob us but failed, therefore we should let him in our house again”

More like, “the burglar tried to rob us but failed, but we have better security this time”.

Trump will make sure this time, he's surrounded by loyalists. We were a Mike Pence away from a constitutional crisis on J6. You're a fool if you don't think he will try again, and he could succeed this time.

The VP’s role in the transition of power is purely ceremonial now after the amendments to the Electoral Count act. Also the Capitol was caught off-guard for J6 and will be more prepared next time.

[Spectator]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

Yeah and he failed.

Trump will make sure this time, he's surrounded by loyalists. We were a Mike Pence away from a constitutional crisis on J6. You're a fool if you don't think he will try again, and he could succeed this time.

How are they going to enforce this?

[GAinDC]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

Yeah and he failed.

Your logic is like “the burglar tried to rob us but failed, therefore we should let him in our house again”

More like, “the burglar tried to rob us but failed, but we have better security this time”.

Trump will make sure this time, he's surrounded by loyalists. We were a Mike Pence away from a constitutional crisis on J6. You're a fool if you don't think he will try again, and he could succeed this time.

The VP’s role in the transition of power is purely ceremonial now after the amendments to the Electoral Count act. Also the Capitol was caught off-guard for J6 and will be more prepared next time.

Even if that is true (which I doubt) you still dont invite the burglar back in lol

[BlueSwan]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

Yeah and he failed.

Trump will make sure this time, he's surrounded by loyalists. We were a Mike Pence away from a constitutional crisis on J6. You're a fool if you don't think he will try again, and he could succeed this time.

How are they going to enforce this?

A much better question is who is going to stop the executive branch from holding on to power at will.

[Tekken_Guy]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

Yeah and he failed.

Trump will make sure this time, he's surrounded by loyalists. We were a Mike Pence away from a constitutional crisis on J6. You're a fool if you don't think he will try again, and he could succeed this time.

How are they going to enforce this?

A much better question is who is going to stop the executive branch from holding on to power at will.

The secret service, the military, the courts, congress, state governments.

[kwabbit]

I think Trump will float removing term limits but get shot down. If he was eligible to run again I'd say he would take real steps to make the 2028 election not free and fair, but he is too narcissistic to do that for someone else.

[GAinDC]

I don’t really understand your fixation on this, Tekken Guy.

You say you don’t support Trump, yet are absolutely prepared to die on this hill claiming that Trump won’t push us further toward authoritarianism, despite a lot of evidence to the contrary.

If you don’t want him to be President again, why are you trying so hard to convince everyone that another Trump term won’t be as bad as many of us think? Why give him any benefit of the doubt after everything that happened after 2020?

[Spectator]

I don’t really understand your fixation on this, Tekken Guy.

You say you don’t support Trump, yet are absolutely prepared to die on this hill claiming that Trump won’t push us further toward authoritarianism, despite a lot of evidence to the contrary.

If you don’t want him to be President again, why are you trying so hard to convince everyone that another Trump term won’t be as bad as many of us think? Why give him any benefit of the doubt after everything that happened after 2020?

It’s not logically inconsistent to think that Trump will try to stay in office/try to take over elections nationally while still thinking that there’s no way he can realistically do that without like supermajorities in Congress.

[Duke 🇺🇸]

Somehow every single election is the end of life as we know it if your preferred candidate loses

Yet, the sun always comes up in the morning

Yes, obviously, the 2028 election will still be free and fair (to the extent that elections nowadays are)

Yeah, except in the last election the guy who lost actually tried to overturn it.

Yeah and he failed.

Trump will make sure this time, he's surrounded by loyalists. We were a Mike Pence away from a constitutional crisis on J6. You're a fool if you don't think he will try again, and he could succeed this time.

How are they going to enforce this?

A much better question is who is going to stop the executive branch from holding on to power at will.

The secret service, the military, the courts, congress, state governments.

You really think Republicans would stand up against Trump should he refuse to leave office? Most Republicans want a Trump dictatorship. Courts on their own have no power to enforce rulings. Trump and some GOP lawmakers have already said it's OK to ignore court rulings.

As for the military, you never know. We were fortunate those in charge refused to seize voting machines in 2020, but we may not be lucky again.

I just wish you'd come out and say you are all for a Trump dictatorship. It's obvious you are OK with such an outcome.