Opinion of Russophobia

[Lord Halifax]

Massive freedom phobia

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Bigotry is always wrong and stupid, regardless of what a country's government does.

[Lord Halifax]

Bigotry is always wrong and stupid, regardless of what a country's government does.

some people from historically dominant nations deserve all the bigotry they can get (Russians, Germans, Turks and Arabs come to mind), the world would be a better place if all Russians, Germans, Turks and Arabs assimilated into other cultures.

[AtorBoltox]

It's non-existent

[wnwnwn]

Hating Putin's regime is okay
Hating ethnic russians is not

[TML]

It's OK to criticize/dislike the current Russian government and/or its rulers, but it's not OK to extend this attitude to ordinary Russian people.

[Flats the Flounder]

It's always sad to see wars turn people into bigots.

[Upper Canada Tory]

'Russophobia' is not a thing. I can't have an opinion on something that doesn't exist.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Obvious HPh.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Bigotry is always wrong and stupid, regardless of what a country's government does.

Unless it’s bigotry against those lazy no good smelly dirty Austrians!

[buritobr]

Horrible

Every ___phobia is xenophobia.


I will not dislike Karl Marx only because he is from the country which was ruled by Adolf Hitler.
But Adolf Hitler was Austrian.
OK, I will not dislike Sigmund Freud.


If conducting wars in foreign soil were a fair motive to have phobia against people of a country, I would not be here in this forum.

[KaiserDave]

Russophobia is awful and should be removed, “Russophobia” is obvious and should be the view of all.

[Flats the Flounder]

Russophobia is awful and should be removed, “Russophobia” is obvious and should be the view of all.

What do the quotes signify?

[KaiserDave]

Russophobia is awful and should be removed, “Russophobia” is obvious and should be the view of all.

What do the quotes signify?

How the Russian government defines it, which is anything opposed to their Neo-imperialist obsessions.

[Associate Justice PiT]

'Russophobia' is not a thing. I can't have an opinion on something that doesn't exist.

     Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Numerous Western-aligned sources have reported on the spate of anti-Russian hate crimes that has followed the invasion of Ukraine:

https://news.sky.com/story/russians-assaulted-threatened-and-abused-in-uk-as-hate-crimes-linked-to-ukraine-war-surge-12821923
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/07/antirussian-hate-putin-europe/
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/01/us/nyc-russian-orthodox-church-red-paint

     And I could easily go on with these. This hate is a very real thing; pretending that it isn't will if anything help push many Russian immigrants who are otherwise sympathetic to the plight of Ukrainians into Putin's arms by convincing them that the West is indeed an existential enemy of their people.

[Upper Canada Tory]

'Russophobia' is not a thing. I can't have an opinion on something that doesn't exist.

     Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Numerous Western-aligned sources have reported on the spate of anti-Russian hate crimes that has followed the invasion of Ukraine:

https://news.sky.com/story/russians-assaulted-threatened-and-abused-in-uk-as-hate-crimes-linked-to-ukraine-war-surge-12821923
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/07/antirussian-hate-putin-europe/
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/01/us/nyc-russian-orthodox-church-red-paint

     And I could easily go on with these. This hate is a very real thing; pretending that it isn't will if anything help push many Russian immigrants who are otherwise sympathetic to the plight of Ukrainians into Putin's arms by convincing them that the West is indeed an existential enemy of their people.

There have also been plenty of anti-Ukrainian hate crimes in the West. In fact,  Ukrainians in Germany are physically attacked more frequently than any other nationality - but police won't reveal if these attacks are hate crimes ('politically motivated') or not, even though they have this information at their disposal.

Why don't we hear concerns about 'Ukrainophobia'? Why don't we hear about how attacking random Ukrainians (many of them refugees fleeing war torn areas) is wrong?

The use of woke politically correct terms such as 'Russophobia' is always selectively applied for political purpose - sure, I'll say there is 'Russophobia' when someone brings attention to hate-motivated attacks against Ukrainians, which are often more common.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Why is hating Israel merely called "being anti-Israel" rather than "Israelophobia"?  Why is it a "phobia" to hate Russia?  Russia has been the most malicious actor on the world stage over the last century, constantly interfering with other countries to try to undermine and weaken them and sow anger and fear and disinformation, or start violent revolutions to destabilize the government or kill lots of people.  This is really bad and opposing it is a moral imperative, not a phobia.

[Wiswylfen]

Why is hating Israel merely called "being anti-Israel" rather than "Israelophobia"?  Why is it a "phobia" to hate Russia?  Russia has been the most malicious actor on the world stage over the last century, constantly interfering with other countries to try to undermine and weaken them and sow anger and fear and disinformation, or start violent revolutions to destabilize the government or kill lots of people.  This is really bad and opposing it is a moral imperative, not a phobia.

This is about the standard of post I have come to expect from you.

Bigotry is always wrong and stupid, regardless of what a country's government does.

some people from historically dominant nations deserve all the bigotry they can get (Russians, Germans, Turks and Arabs come to mind), the world would be a better place if all Russians, Germans, Turks and Arabs assimilated into other cultures.

Yes I agree we should also hate the English as well. It's fascinating: I regard the assimilation of a patchwork of so many peoples including the Egyptians into one 'Arab' identity as a great historical tragedy and I completely lack this hatred.

[Associate Justice PiT]

'Russophobia' is not a thing. I can't have an opinion on something that doesn't exist.

     Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Numerous Western-aligned sources have reported on the spate of anti-Russian hate crimes that has followed the invasion of Ukraine:

https://news.sky.com/story/russians-assaulted-threatened-and-abused-in-uk-as-hate-crimes-linked-to-ukraine-war-surge-12821923
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/07/antirussian-hate-putin-europe/
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/01/us/nyc-russian-orthodox-church-red-paint

     And I could easily go on with these. This hate is a very real thing; pretending that it isn't will if anything help push many Russian immigrants who are otherwise sympathetic to the plight of Ukrainians into Putin's arms by convincing them that the West is indeed an existential enemy of their people.

There have also been plenty of anti-Ukrainian hate crimes in the West. In fact,  Ukrainians in Germany are physically attacked more frequently than any other nationality - but police won't reveal if these attacks are hate crimes ('politically motivated') or not, even though they have this information at their disposal.

Why don't we hear concerns about 'Ukrainophobia'? Why don't we hear about how attacking random Ukrainians (many of them refugees fleeing war torn areas) is wrong?

The use of woke politically correct terms such as 'Russophobia' is always selectively applied for political purpose - sure, I'll say there is 'Russophobia' when someone brings attention to hate-motivated attacks against Ukrainians, which are often more common.

     I'm happy to denounce hate crimes against any ethnicity; Ukrainians should not be persecuted because of who they are and where they come from either. Part of the reason why people talk about "Russophobia" is because you will actually find apologists online for hate crimes against Russians, like the creator of this topic. When the war started, I remember seeing internet lefties saying that these events were necessary to motivate Russians to oppose Putin and agitate for regime change.

     I respect your point that we shouldn't be playing political games with these terms, but making statements that seem to imply that hate crimes against Russians don't exist is a game from the opposite direction. Instead we should be able to agree that both Russians and Ukrainians are being targeted and that neither should be victimized.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

It's become depressingly clear, if it wasn't already, that Russia has the kinds of regimes it has because of deep cultural pathologies rather than mere historical happenstance, but cultural pathologies can never be imputed individually to everyone in the culture, at least not in exactly the same way for every person.

[Upper Canada Tory]

'Russophobia' is not a thing. I can't have an opinion on something that doesn't exist.

     Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Numerous Western-aligned sources have reported on the spate of anti-Russian hate crimes that has followed the invasion of Ukraine:

https://news.sky.com/story/russians-assaulted-threatened-and-abused-in-uk-as-hate-crimes-linked-to-ukraine-war-surge-12821923
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/07/antirussian-hate-putin-europe/
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/01/us/nyc-russian-orthodox-church-red-paint

     And I could easily go on with these. This hate is a very real thing; pretending that it isn't will if anything help push many Russian immigrants who are otherwise sympathetic to the plight of Ukrainians into Putin's arms by convincing them that the West is indeed an existential enemy of their people.

There have also been plenty of anti-Ukrainian hate crimes in the West. In fact,  Ukrainians in Germany are physically attacked more frequently than any other nationality - but police won't reveal if these attacks are hate crimes ('politically motivated') or not, even though they have this information at their disposal.

Why don't we hear concerns about 'Ukrainophobia'? Why don't we hear about how attacking random Ukrainians (many of them refugees fleeing war torn areas) is wrong?

The use of woke politically correct terms such as 'Russophobia' is always selectively applied for political purpose - sure, I'll say there is 'Russophobia' when someone brings attention to hate-motivated attacks against Ukrainians, which are often more common.

     I'm happy to denounce hate crimes against any ethnicity; Ukrainians should not be persecuted because of who they are and where they come from either. Part of the reason why people talk about "Russophobia" is because you will actually find apologists online for hate crimes against Russians, like the creator of this topic. When the war started, I remember seeing internet lefties saying that these events were necessary to motivate Russians to oppose Putin and agitate for regime change.

     I respect your point that we shouldn't be playing political games with these terms, but making statements that seem to imply that hate crimes against Russians don't exist is a game from the opposite direction. Instead we should be able to agree that both Russians and Ukrainians are being targeted and that neither should be victimized.

Fine. I will agree with you that no one should justify hate crimes/hatred against Russians.

[dead0man]

it's wrong to hate an individual Russian (unless they give you reason to), but Russophobia is fine

[DavidB.]

Europe on the left, Russia (the regime, not the people) on the right. Nuff said.

[Sopranos Republican]

Bigotry is always wrong and stupid, regardless of what a country's government does.

some people from historically dominant nations deserve all the bigotry they can get (Russians, Germans, Turks and Arabs come to mind), the world would be a better place if all Russians, Germans, Turks and Arabs assimilated into other cultures.

LOL

So if a war breaks out between two impoverished African countries, for example, I'm a good person if I root for the poorer of the two? Do I have this right?

Does this logic also apply to street fights? Should I try to find out how much cash each dude has in his wallet at the time and root for the one who has less? Or if one has an iPhone and the other has a cheap Walmart Android model, I can just assume it's safe to root for the Android guy?

[vitoNova]

Russians are pretty cool, actually.

As a people.