Rank these groups of people from best to worst

[VBM]

Pro-Ukraine and pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine and anti-Israel
Anti-Ukraine and pro-Israel
Anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel

[OSR stands with Israel]

1. Pro Ukraine and Pro Israel(This is the only morally defensible position)

2. Pro Ukraine and Pro Palestine
3. Pro Russia and Pro Israel

4. Pro Russia and Pro Palestine



Number 2 and 3 are very close but it pretty much depends on what really . If you mean the ceasefire now crowd then the Pro Russia side is worse than the Pro Palestine side but if you mean the types who want Palestine to fully take over Israel and Russia to takeover Ukraine then the Pro Palestine side is worse .

Given that the latter isn’t likely , I went with the Pro Russia side being slightly worse than the pro Palestine side as a ceasefire would be a bigger loss for Ukraine then it is for Israel.

[Mine the Strait]

Being pro-Russia makes you a bad person; being pro-Ukraine makes you good. I don't differentiate between Israel/Palestine people.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

Pro-Ukraine = good
Pro-Russia = bad

For Pro-Israel/Palestine it has far more to do with how radical in their position a person is than which one they take.

[AncestralDemocrat.]

Pro Ukraine - Pro Israel
Pro Ukraine - Pro Palestine
Pro Russia - Pro Israel
Pro Russia - Pro Palestine

[Horus]

Pro Ukraine - Pro Palestine
GAP
Pro Ukraine - Pro Israel
Pro Russia - Pro Palestine
HUGE GAP
Pro Russia - Pro Israel

[Don't Blame Me, I'm from Massachusetts]

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

[CentristRepublican]

Pro-Ukraine = good
Pro-Russia = bad

For Pro-Israel/Palestine it has far more to do with how radical in their position a person is than which one they take.

This.

Pro Ukraine - Pro Palestine
GAP
Pro Ukraine - Pro Israel
HUGE GAP
Pro Russia - Pro Palestine
HUGE GAP
Pro Russia - Pro Israel

You misplaced the huge gap. FTFY.

Much unlike Israel-Palestine, where there are legitimately shades of grey, Russia-Ukraine is pretty clearly a black-and-white issue where one side (Russia) is bad and the other is good.

[Horus]

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

You're a very moderate and sane guy, so this is actually disturbing. Pro Russia/pro Israel is as evil as it gets man, I hope this is a typo. If not, why? Evangelicalism? Do you just like strongmen for some reason?

[Goldwater]

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

I'm legitimately surprised that you prefer Russia over Palestine, considering how pacifist-leaning most of your foreign policy views seem to be.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

I'm legitimately surprised that you prefer Russia over Palestine, considering how pacifist-leaning most of your foreign policy views seem to be.

I mean depends on how you define supporting Russia or Palestine really . If you define it by total victory on both sides then a pro Palestinian position would be more evil as that would literally lead to a literal genocide taking place while Russia winning would mean 19th century style imperialism succeeding and that type of world order coming back . While both are obviously terrible , Palestine getting a total victory would be obviously worse in this case .

I’d say most evil to least evil goes like this: Extreme Palestine Supporter> Extreme Russia supporter > Normie Russia supporter > Normie Palestine supporter. So it really depends on how you define this

[OSR stands with Israel]

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

You're a very moderate and sane guy, so this is actually disturbing. Pro Russia/pro Israel is as evil as it gets man, I hope this is a typo. If not, why? Evangelicalism? Do you just like strongmen for some reason?

He never said that position is good though.

[SWE]

1. Pro Ukraine/Palestine
2. Pro Ukraine/Israel
3. Pro Russia/Palestine
4. Pro Russia/Israel

Pretty straightforward. Both are pretty easy moral questions with a correct answer. Only group 1 is defensible, went with 2 over 3 because there's more plausible deniability in a non-evil person backing Israel out of stupidity as opposed to malice than there is for Russia.

[Red Willow]

Pro Ukraine/Pro Israel
Pro Russia/Pro Israel
Pro Ukraine/Pro Palestine
Pro Russia/Pro Palestine

[CheapDollarEra?]

On random americans:
1 Pro-Ukraine and pro-Israel
2 Pro-Ukraine and anti-Israel
3 Anti-Ukraine and anti-Israel
4 Anti-Ukraine and pro-Israel

[PSOL]

Pro Ukraine and Pro Palestine
Imperialists and campists

That simple

[David Hume]

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

I'm legitimately surprised that you prefer Russia over Palestine, considering how pacifist-leaning most of your foreign policy views seem to be.

I mean depends on how you define supporting Russia or Palestine really . If you define it by total victory on both sides then a pro Palestinian position would be more evil as that would literally lead to a literal genocide taking place while Russia winning would mean 19th century style imperialism succeeding and that type of world order coming back . While both are obviously terrible , Palestine getting a total victory would be obviously worse in this case .

I’d say most evil to least evil goes like this: Extreme Palestine Supporter> Extreme Russia supporter > Normie Russia supporter > Normie Palestine supporter. So it really depends on how you define this

In reality, total win for Palestinian that leads to genocide of Jews is impossible. IDF can easily avoid that on their own. At worst, the US will interfere well before that.

A total win for Russia is way more likely. In fact, without Western support, it is pretty likely if Putin is determined.

[HisGrace]

Pro Ukraine and Pro Israel
Anti Ukraine Pro Israel
Pro Ukraine and Anti Israel
Anti Ukraine and Anti Israel

Much unlike Israel-Palestine, where there are legitimately shades of grey, Russia-Ukraine is pretty clearly a black-and-white issue where one side (Russia) is bad and the other is good.

I would say Hamas is unambiguously evil to an equal or greater extent than Russia. That's who Israel is fighting, not the imaginary liberal pro democracy Palestinians who seem to living in you guys's heads.

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

I'm legitimately surprised that you prefer Russia over Palestine, considering how pacifist-leaning most of your foreign policy views seem to be.

Ahhh yes, Hamas the well known pacifist group.

[Goldwater]

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

I'm legitimately surprised that you prefer Russia over Palestine, considering how pacifist-leaning most of your foreign policy views seem to be.

Ahhh yes, Hamas the well known pacifist group.

That's not what I was saying. I suppose I wasn't very clear, but my surprise wasn't about him being Pro-Israel, it was that I expected him to be more harsh on the Pro-Russia position.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

I'm legitimately surprised that you prefer Russia over Palestine, considering how pacifist-leaning most of your foreign policy views seem to be.

Ahhh yes, Hamas the well known pacifist group.

That's not what I was saying. I suppose I wasn't very clear, but my surprise wasn't about him being Pro-Israel, it was that I expected him to be more harsh on the Pro-Russia position.

Look at who recommended my post in reply to you earlier. He basically was viewing this as supporting total victory from either side

[Tokugawa Sexgod Ieyasu]

Pro-Ukraine = good
Pro-Russia = bad

For Pro-Israel/Palestine it has far more to do with how radical in their position a person is than which one they take.

This. I will say that Pro-Russia/Pro-Israel is the combination I find to be the most of a knee-jerk red flag, though.

[Goldwater]

Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Israel
Pro-Russia & Pro-Israel
Pro-Ukraine & Pro-Palestine
Pro-Russia & Pro-Palestine

I'm legitimately surprised that you prefer Russia over Palestine, considering how pacifist-leaning most of your foreign policy views seem to be.

Ahhh yes, Hamas the well known pacifist group.

That's not what I was saying. I suppose I wasn't very clear, but my surprise wasn't about him being Pro-Israel, it was that I expected him to be more harsh on the Pro-Russia position.

Look at who recommended my post in reply to you earlier. He basically was viewing this as supporting total victory from either side

Far enough. I just felt the need to clarify my previous post, since HisGrace was completely mischaracterizing it.