Should Biden deprioritize Michigan?

[BG-NY (permanently retired)]

Michigan is going to be close regardless, but some of the moves he's making to attempt to win it back are going to negatively impact him in other swing states.

Not time to triage it yet since he's only down 4-5, but securing Pennsylvania and Minnesota, and trying to turn the tide in Arizona seems like a better strategy.

[wbrocks67]

Absolutely not lol. And his "issues" in MI are completely overblown imo. The state is not shifting 8% based on one small group having issues with him.

[Redban]

No, he should deprioritize GA. But the other swing states, including Michigan, should get attention  

[ProgressiveModerate]

Absolutely not, especially since Biden/Dems have more money to play with. They should spread money out and force Rs into the difficult position of triaging some states/races in favor of others.

As a general rule don't triage competitive states you won the last cycle - winning the state in the last election is proof a winning coalition exists under the right circumstances.

Only case where a triage was truly justified Presidentially in recent history would be Indiana in 2012 where Obama's narrow 2008 win was a perfect storm and those same factors wouldn't be there in 2012. Indiana was also never going to be the tipping point state in 2012.

Michigan on the other hand has a decent chance of being the tipping point and is a state Dems have proven time and time again they can win at federal and local level, including in 2022.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Yes, Biden should completely abandon the swing state he won the most by last time!

Give me a f***ing break!

[Duke 🇺🇸]

Why would he deprioritize MI? He can still win the general if he loses GA and AZ. Those are two states he has a better chance at losing than MI.

[7,052,770]

Should the most pro-labor, pro-union president in American history deprioritize the most pro-labor, pro-union of all swing states? No.

[Beet]

What things do you think he's doing for Michigan what will negatively impact other swing states?

[Blow by blow, the passion dies]

No, since the UAW endorsed him.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

No, be ause we haven't seen any MI polls and Slotkin is on the ballot


Let me give you a history of MI 2004 Bush W had a 4 pt lead in MI he lost and 2006 Devo's was leading Graholm he lost, MI, like NV and AZ and GA have R biases

There is no way Trump is up 8 in GA and 22 they had Walker leading and Atlanta Burbs, hogwash , if Biden is improving in NC then he is also improving inI, GA they voted to left of NC in 20/22

[DrScholl]

The idea that Biden needs to concede the election before it's held is totally insane. You all want a coronation for Trump, but it's not going to happen. Biden is under no obligation to help Trump win and anyone who thinks that is not a realist.

[President Johnson]

Worked well for Hillary.

[pbrower2a]

Not until it is locked down as a Solid D state in the Presidential election. It is an absolute must win state for Biden.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

That would be mindbogglingly dumb.

[CheapDollarEra?]

Do you think he went to an AUW strike for nothing?
Trump will start campaining in the state at some point and qhis stances on Israel/Palestine will be heard at some point. Obviously, Trump will be the most pro Israel candidate. No matter how zionist Biden goes, Trump will be even more zionist. Muslim voters will notoce that and maybe some will start priorizing other issues, like fighting islamophobia in the USA (where dems still have some streght) and labor issues (where Biden is favored).

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Deprioritize a state that he needs to win? Are you crazy?

Deprioritize Florida? Hell yeah!

Michigan? F**k no!

[Fancyarcher]

Why he should write-off a state that was close in 2020, and has a competitive senate race? That might be the dumbest suggestion anyone could give him.

[DaleCooper]

Obviously this is a dumb thread, but it serves as a good place to point out that Biden should not deprioritize any of the states that he won in 2020. All of them are in good shape long term for the Democratic Party and there's little to no reason to believe that any one of them is moving away from him independent of the others.

One of the reasons why this election should be easier for Biden, purely in terms of prioritizing his objectives, is that the map is very clear now. In 2020 there seemed to be a reason to heavily contest Florida, and even contest Iowa and Ohio. Those are all off the table now. The only "competitive" state that is arguably moving towards Democrats that Biden should completely ignore is Texas.

[jojoju1998]

Do you think he went to an AUW strike for nothing?
Trump will start campaining in the state at some point and qhis stances on Israel/Palestine will be heard at some point. Obviously, Trump will be the most pro Israel candidate. No matter how zionist Biden goes, Trump will be even more zionist. Muslim voters will notoce that and maybe some will start priorizing other issues, like fighting islamophobia in the USA (where dems still have some streght) and labor issues (where Biden is favored).

Hasn't Biden mostly run a traditional 1960s democratic campaign anyway ?


I don't think the Israel/Hamas war for better or worse, is part of his campaign strategy. Like he wants to reach normal folks, and are normal folks concerned ( for better or worse ) about the middle east ?

They're more worried about healthcare, jobs, Unions,

[CheapDollarEra?]

Do you think he went to an AUW strike for nothing?
Trump will start campaining in the state at some point and qhis stances on Israel/Palestine will be heard at some point. Obviously, Trump will be the most pro Israel candidate. No matter how zionist Biden goes, Trump will be even more zionist. Muslim voters will notoce that and maybe some will start priorizing other issues, like fighting islamophobia in the USA (where dems still have some streght) and labor issues (where Biden is favored).

Hasn't Biden mostly run a traditional 1960s democratic campaign anyway ?


I don't think the Israel/Hamas war for better or worse, is part of his campaign strategy. Like he wants to reach normal folks, and are normal folks concerned ( for better or worse ) about the middle east ?

They're more worried about healthcare, jobs, Unions,

Its a bit of his part. He seems to try to have a sensible 60s/70s era patriot liberal like image. Obviously he hasn't gone full Scoop, but he still want to appeal residuals of Cold War era sensibilities, at least agaisnt Putin friendly Trump.
He wants to reach factory workers and women concerned with abortion legislation. Supporti g pro choice measures, the CHIPS act and his labor stances are his bread and butter appeals.

[Rhode Islander First, American Second]

No, but he should abandon Wisconsin, which is a lost cause.

[Tekken_Guy]

No, but he should abandon Wisconsin, which is a lost cause.

How is Wisconsin a lost acuse? He won it in 2020 and elections have been horrible for Republicans ever since then aside from Ron Johnson's re-election.

[Devils30]

He should definitely abandon Michigan. The entire state with its 2% Arab population is like the West Bank and he should completely forget the other 98%! How can trends in Saginaw, Grand Rapids, Flint, Detroit ever be correlated with similar places such as Erie, Harrisburg, Philly?

[Rhode Islander First, American Second]

No, but he should abandon Wisconsin, which is a lost cause.

How is Wisconsin a lost acuse? He won it in 2020 and elections have been horrible for Republicans ever since then aside from Ron Johnson's re-election.

Leftists in Madison cannot be trusted and Trump has waaay more room to gain in the rural areas than even other Midwestern states.

[Tekken_Guy]

No, but he should abandon Wisconsin, which is a lost cause.

How is Wisconsin a lost acuse? He won it in 2020 and elections have been horrible for Republicans ever since then aside from Ron Johnson's re-election.

Leftists in Madison cannot be trusted and Trump has waaay more room to gain in the rural areas than even other Midwestern states.

Has there been any sign of the bottom falling out for Biden in the rurals? It didn't for Tony Evers or Janet Protasiewicz.

Also what about Biden making gains in WOW?