Who do you trust on 2024/presidential elections?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
July 10, 2025, 11:03:16 AM
News: Election Calculator 3.0 with county/house maps is now live. For more info, click here

  Talk Elections
  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  2024 U.S. Presidential Election (Moderators: muon2, GeorgiaModerate, Spiral, 100% pro-life no matter what, Crumpets)
  Who do you trust on 2024/presidential elections?
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Who do you trust on 2024/presidential elections?  (Read 542 times)
BG-NY (permanently retired)
BG-NY
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,858
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: February 04, 2024, 05:02:32 PM »

For me, the list is short:

Nate Cohn
Nate Silver
Dave Wasserman
Harry Enten
Steve Kornacki
Logged
Redban
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,314


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2024, 05:03:58 PM »

Richard Baris
Logged
Mr. Third-Wayist
Liam
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,138
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -0.65, S: -1.57

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2024, 05:04:33 PM »

Dave Wasserman
Alan Lichtman
Larry Sabato
Nate Silver
Nate Cohn
G. Elliot Morris
Myself
Logged
BG-NY (permanently retired)
BG-NY
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,858
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2024, 05:04:51 PM »

I wouldn’t. He comes off as intelligent on Twitter, and there are some false accusations about faking polls, but he’s a midwit.
Logged
Meclazine for Israel
Meclazine
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 16,398
Australia


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2024, 05:57:16 PM »

Atlas Forum

In 2016, 0.4% of the forum was on the money with Hilary Clinton.
Logged
Trump v. Wong Kim Ark
Fubart Solman
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 10,647
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2024, 05:59:54 PM »

I couldn’t come up with an exhaustive list, but Jon Ralston when the topic is Nevada.
Logged
BG-NY (permanently retired)
BG-NY
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,858
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2024, 07:49:59 PM »

For me, the list is short:

Nate Cohn
Nate Silver
Dave Wasserman
Harry Enten
Steve Kornacki
One person I forgot, Sean Trende.

I currently follow 8 accounts on Twitter:

@politics_polls
@ppollingnumbers
@stevekornacki
@redistrict
@forecasterenten
@seantrende
@nate_cohn
@natesilver538

and I feel I get a (pretty) accurate pulse on elections.
Logged
BG-NY (permanently retired)
BG-NY
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,858
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2024, 07:50:26 PM »

I couldn’t come up with an exhaustive list, but Jon Ralston when the topic is Nevada.
Ralston is not bad, so he's a good mention, but there's far too much opinion on his feed. I value his final prediction, but not worth digging through piles of feces to get to it.
Logged
Shaula🏳️‍⚧️
Shaula
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,486
Australia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2024, 08:34:50 PM »

Tencor's good at analysing results
Wasserman ofc for calls
Logged
Mr.Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 98,815
Jamaica


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -4.17

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2024, 08:39:46 PM »

Chuck Todd the bellwether states are NM and OH, even if we don't win OH but Brown wins it's predictive of how Eday turns out, Chuck Todd said this in 2008 and watch out for NC  it's part of the Iron Triangle
 TX as well with Harris County

NM and OH have been Pred the winner since 1912 when NM became the state and OH since 1860 when the Civil War began

NM was never wrong on the PVI except 1976 and OH was wrong in 1960 and 2020/22 but usually they are Pred of Eday.
Logged
LostInOhio
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 848
United States
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2024, 10:10:34 PM »

Allan Lichtman has the best track record regardless of all the naysayers.
Logged
7,052,770
Harry
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 38,129
Greenland


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2024, 10:13:19 PM »

No one.
Logged
emailking
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,090
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2024, 10:57:08 PM »

Biden.
Logged
Wrong about 2024 Ghost
Runeghost
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,185


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2024, 11:30:48 PM »

Allan Lichtman has the best track record regardless of all the naysayers.

He really doesn't.

They "seem" to work because they're arbitrary, and because Lichtman changes his definition of what he's predicting depending on who wins. The Thirteen Keys are the equivalent of a confidence trick dressed up in the guise of academia.

The first six keys have explicit, testable definitions. They give the impression of a rigorous, mathematically definable process. The remaining seven keys  are completely arbitrary, lacking any testable definition, but cloaked in "you can trust me, I'm a professional" rhetoric to disguise that fact. Seven keys are also the number needed to decide a winner.

Originally, Lichtman said his Keys predicted the popular vote winner. He dropped that for his 2000 predictions, simply saying Gore would "win". After Gore lost, Lichtman claimed he was, as per his original work, just predicting the popular vote. After Trump lost the popular popular vote, Lichtman reversed himself, claiming that he was now predicting the "elected" President.

The Keys real title should be "well-informed smart guy guesses who will be President". If he was using a crystal ball or watching the flights of birds as a prop, everyone would dismiss him. But because he has successfully disguised his prop, he gets outsize attention, as witnessed by regular threads about him here.  "Professor 8 for 10 in calling Presidential elections" would be treated quite differently, yet that is exactly what the Keys are.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.042 seconds with 9 queries.