Biden completely deluded from reality; Tells Donors "We can win Florida"

[2016]

https://twitter.com/NewsWire_US/status/1752737016620458364
I wonder in what universe President Biden lives here not to mention the fact that he got an influx of 100M $ of Ad Spending by Bloombergs SuperPac and still lost the State by 380,000+ Votes.

Here are the Florida Registration Changes (Book Closing)



So, let's be honest here: Former President Obama won the State in 2012 because he used the Democrats 5 Percentage Points Registration Edge very smartly and only won by some 70,000+ Votes.

[Bush did 311]

A reality where young lefty voters overwhelmingly register as independent, independents are the fastest growing demographic, and Florida has a history of incumbency bias.

E - to be clear, I don't think he can win this year. I think he's overselling to donors because that's the way sales pitches go. But I do think it's premature to write the state off as a swing state forever when it is such a fast growing and diverse state, and I could believe it might be closer than last time even if the PV is worse nationally.

[wbrocks67]

He was literally at a fundraiser, what is he going to say?

[Red Willow]

He can't win FL but he's going to lose it by way less than most people seem to think.

[DrScholl]

You are grasping at straws. No candidate is going to go into a fundraiser and say they are going to lose a state.

[soundchaser]

"Dilluded"

[emailking]

He only lost by 4 last time.

[President Johnson]

Did he hire riverwalk3 to his advisory board?

[2016]

He only lost by 4 last time.

Democrats had a 134,000 Registration Advantage heading into the 2020 Election, now they're facing a 800,000+ Deficit.

[Andrew Cuomo is a No Go]

Yeah, stupid Joe Biden telling people that he thinks he can win. If I were to walk into a room full of potential donors the line I'd lead with would be: "There's no hope at all of me winning and we're all going to die. Please light your money on fire now."

[Progressive Pessimist]

I will actually agree with you here, and I hope his campaign doesn't end up bothering.

[South Dakota Democrat]

He only lost by 4 last time.

3

[Progressive Pessimist]

He only lost by 4 last time.

3

Still an atrocious showing.

If any other posters are going to give me s*** for not living up to my username, these Florida posts are for you.

[South Dakota Democrat]

He only lost by 4 last time.

3

Still an atrocious showing.

If any other posters are going to give me s*** for not living up to my username, these Florida posts are for you.

I was merely saying it was 3 points and not 4.  I make no judgement as to whether that's a good or bad performance.

[🥥🌴]

People are overestimating the degree of which Florida is lost, but it's a Lean R state and it's likely the election is already won if he manages to pull it off, which is unlikely, especially in this environment. If he does well, there's some room for at least some flips downballot perhaps.

[MaxQue]

Indeed, he is totally diluted.

[🥥🌴]

swing right, trend left

But i'm not certain on the degree of it, it depends on turnout.

[emailking]

He only lost by 4 last time.

3

Still an atrocious showing.

If any other posters are going to give me s*** for not living up to my username, these Florida posts are for you.

I was merely saying it was 3 points and not 4.  I make no judgement as to whether that's a good or bad performance.

It's actually neither 3 nor 4 but I'll ackowledge it's a little closer to 3 than 4.

[emailking]

He only lost by 4 last time.

Democrats had a 134,000 Registration Advantage heading into the 2020 Election, now they're facing a 800,000+ Deficit.

That convinces me that it has gotten harder and not that it can't be done.

[mileslunn]

I don't think Florida is necessarily lost for good, but it won't be going Democrat this time around.  Its one of those states Democrats can win in a wave election like 2008, but not one where they either lose or if win its by slimmest of margins.  North Carolina is only Trump state from 2020 Biden has even a remote chance of picking up and even then its a very long shot.

[Steve from Lambeth]

I don't think Florida is necessarily lost for good, but it won't be going Democrat this time around.  Its one of those states Democrats can win in a wave election like 2008, but not one where they either lose or if win its by slimmest of margins.  North Carolina is only Trump state from 2020 Biden has even a remote chance of picking up and even then its a very long shot.

So you're telling me that FL is pure wave insurance?

[ProgressiveModerate]

People are overestimating the degree of which Florida is lost, but it's a Lean R state and it's likely the election is already won if he manages to pull it off, which is unlikely, especially in this environment. If he does well, there's some room for at least some flips downballot perhaps.

I think part of the reason FL is lost is because Dems gave up on it - it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. In 2022 Rs outspent Ds like crazy and got a lopsided turnout dynamic as a result. I don't think Dems were ever winning FL 2022 even with good investment and ground game, but could've been more like an 8 or 10 point loss.

Had Dems taken in the 2018 and 2020 results, performed an actual autopsy, and re-adjusted accordingly, people's perception of FL might be very different today. However, Dems took those results and saw it as a sign to give up on FL - which isn't a completely dumb decision given they generally don't need it to win elections nationally, it takes huge monetary investment, and they are fightihng some uphill political re-alignments and population shifts.

[Duke 🇺🇸]

Keep in mind the OP probably still thinks desantis will be the nominee. No use in arguing here

[Ferguson97]

"Dilluded"

What's funny is that even if he had spelled this correctly, it still wouldn't make sense. "Deluded from reality" is combining two phrases into something incoherent lmao

[mileslunn]

I don't think Florida is necessarily lost for good, but it won't be going Democrat this time around.  Its one of those states Democrats can win in a wave election like 2008, but not one where they either lose or if win its by slimmest of margins.  North Carolina is only Trump state from 2020 Biden has even a remote chance of picking up and even then its a very long shot.

So you're telling me that FL is pure wave insurance?

I think this election it is a dumb idea, but I don't think Democrats should write it off permanently.  I still think it is winnable under right conditions but not in 2024.