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« Reply #150 on: February 04, 2024, 09:03:05 AM »

Lol remember when someone suggested Phillips would get 22%?
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« Reply #151 on: February 04, 2024, 10:08:03 AM »

Lol remember when someone suggested Phillips would get 22%?
Lmao, but even I was not expecting Biden to get 96% of the vote
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« Reply #152 on: February 04, 2024, 10:13:36 AM »

For those that were obsessed with the small areas in NH with Latinos, Biden was doing just fine with Latinos in SC:

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« Reply #153 on: February 04, 2024, 10:14:12 AM »

It also looks like the higher majority black % the area was, the better the turnout for Biden:

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« Reply #154 on: February 04, 2024, 10:40:16 AM »



Give it a rest, Jack.
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« Reply #155 on: February 04, 2024, 11:42:29 AM »


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« Reply #156 on: February 04, 2024, 11:45:52 AM »

I mean we kid but MSNBC was doing the most with their coverage yesterday. Biden literally gets 96% of the vote and the framing was still put on how unenthused the black community is by him.

Biden got more turnout in SC for a primary that means nothing than Republicans did in Iowa for a major first contest.
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« Reply #157 on: February 04, 2024, 12:05:04 PM »

PROJECTION: WILLIAMSON FINISHES SECOND, PHILLIPS THIRD

Joseph R. Biden Jr.*incumbent
108,104   +96.4%96.4%   
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Marianne Williamson
2,242   +2.0%2.0   
No delegates—
Dean Phillips
1,834   +1.6%1.6   



This is so eerily reminiscent of early 20th century SC election results.  You can't unsee it.
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« Reply #158 on: February 04, 2024, 12:25:21 PM »

This is actually a great result for Biden. Wikipedia has him at over 96%.

I wonder whether this kind of disproves the notion he's losing ground among black voters? After all, he has delivered a strong economy, low unemployment and has the most diverse cabinet, including the appointment of KBJ (promise made, promise kept) as well as many more black judges and attorneys. Of course, turnout may be too low to draw overall conclusions from this single result, but his perceived weakness is not showing up so far. Even his NH performance was solid among all voters.

That's my take, at least a strong indication that notion may be wrong. I don't think the turnout matters much to that end. Turnout would obviously go down with an incumbent.
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« Reply #159 on: February 04, 2024, 01:48:27 PM »

Map of Biden over/under performance by county compared to state average (96.2% = yellow)

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« Reply #160 on: February 04, 2024, 02:30:24 PM »

Map of Biden over/under performance by county compared to state average (96.2% = yellow)



Looks like the "underperformance" is actually super religious areas and wealthy suburbs/resorty areas?!
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« Reply #161 on: February 04, 2024, 02:48:59 PM »

lol, lmao even
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« Reply #162 on: February 04, 2024, 03:53:07 PM »

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« Reply #163 on: February 04, 2024, 04:39:10 PM »

A January 6th rioter voting for Biden? What?

More and more I feel like maybe we do live in a simulation.
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« Reply #164 on: February 04, 2024, 05:40:45 PM »

Believe what you want but Biden is definitely getting his people out to vote. We’ve seen that here in SC and in New Hampshire.

Maybe all the hand wringing over his odds this year is a little overblown?
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« Reply #165 on: February 04, 2024, 06:54:07 PM »

Believe what you want but Biden is definitely getting his people out to vote. We’ve seen that here in SC and in New Hampshire.

Maybe all the hand wringing over his odds this year is a little overblown?

Yet again, election results and polls continue to diverge. I personally put more stock in the former than the latter.

But you know, that's me.

I do agree that we maybe shouldn't draw too many conclusions from this primary, but I also think it's fair to cast doubt on the notion of Democrats having some sort of problem with Biden and wanting him replaced. Even if they aren't the most competent alternatives, Phillips and Williamson should have done better as protest candidates alone if Biden was having some sort of problem with loyal Democrats.
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« Reply #166 on: February 04, 2024, 07:03:51 PM »

Believe what you want but Biden is definitely getting his people out to vote. We’ve seen that here in SC and in New Hampshire.

Maybe all the hand wringing over his odds this year is a little overblown?

Yet again, election results and polls continue to diverge. I personally put more stock in the former than the latter.

But you know, that's me.

I do agree that we maybe shouldn't draw too many conclusions from this primary, but I also think it's fair to cast doubt on the notion of Democrats having some sort of problem with Biden and wanting him replaced. Even if they aren't the most competent alternatives, Phillips and Williamson should have done better as protest candidates alone if Biden was having some sort of problem with loyal Democrats.
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This, and a step further: if there was truly a large pool of unhappiness with Biden in the party, it would lead to a more credible candidate challenging him, as Ted Kennedy did to Jimmy Carter.
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« Reply #167 on: February 04, 2024, 07:09:48 PM »

Believe what you want but Biden is definitely getting his people out to vote. We’ve seen that here in SC and in New Hampshire.

Maybe all the hand wringing over his odds this year is a little overblown?

Yet again, election results and polls continue to diverge. I personally put more stock in the former than the latter.

But you know, that's me.

I do agree that we maybe shouldn't draw too many conclusions from this primary, but I also think it's fair to cast doubt on the notion of Democrats having some sort of problem with Biden and wanting him replaced. Even if they aren't the most competent alternatives, Phillips and Williamson should have done better as protest candidates alone if Biden was having some sort of problem with loyal Democrats.
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This, and a step further: if there was truly a large pool of unhappiness with Biden in the party, it would lead to a more credible candidate challenging him, as Ted Kennedy did to Jimmy Carter.

If someone like Whitmer or Newsom or Pritzker thought they could actually beat Biden in a competitive primary they'd have run. They know they couldn't and losing a primary to an incumbent President would end their careers so they didn't. Tells the whole story. Teddy Kennedy 100% thought he could win and in fact was ahead until Carter had a short-lived rally round the flag moment after the start of the Iran hostage crisis and flipped the table on him.
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« Reply #168 on: February 04, 2024, 08:29:00 PM »



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