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« on: January 25, 2024, 07:21:47 PM »

Describe the average type of voter who voted Trump then Biden but now back to Trump?
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2024, 07:26:11 PM »

Honestly, someone that doesn’t even follow or care about politics that much.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2024, 07:26:17 PM »

Independents who mostly vote on the economy but wanted COVID to be over
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2024, 07:48:06 PM »

I actually know some people who fall into this group, they are more “traditional conservative” republicans who Trump lost on J6 and now want the party to move on from him and his influence.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2024, 07:48:38 PM »

I actually know some people who fall into this group, they are more “traditional conservative” republicans who Trump lost on J6 and now want the party to move on from him and his influence.

It says "Trump 2024."
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2024, 07:50:22 PM »

I actually know some people who fall into this group, they are more “traditional conservative” republicans who Trump lost on J6 and now want the party to move on from him and his influence.

It says "Trump 2024."

Oh whoops! Misread the title.

Probably some suburban voters in Georgia.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2024, 09:53:41 PM »

I actually know some people who fall into this group, they are more “traditional conservative” republicans who Trump lost on J6 and now want the party to move on from him and his influence.

It says "Trump 2024."

Oh whoops! Misread the title.

Probably some suburban voters in Georgia.

Not in any significant quantity. Sure Kemp and Raffensberger got a good amount of crossover support in certain Atlanta suburbs, but that's because they distanced themselves from Trump. Warnock outran Biden 2020 in most of metro Atlanta including many wealthier suburbs that traditionally see downballot lag like Buckhead and Sandy Springs.
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2024, 10:28:49 PM »

Anti-incumbent voters struggling from economic anxiety due to mismanaged monetary policy. 2016 and 2020 were very easy to predict given fundamentals, and so will 2024.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2024, 10:43:29 PM »

1. Middle class suburbanites (More likely to be male and if they're older, that's an added bonus).
2. Conservative who opposed Trump's response to Covid (more likely to be elderly).
3. Traditional Republican who didn't expect Trump to govern the way he campaigned, became disillusioned, but is willing to overlook his prior disappointment because Biden's been more disappointing.
4. Someone who thought Biden was going to bring  a return to normality.
5. A more traditional Republican type who thought Biden would govern as a neocon
6. Catholics who wanted a Catholic in office but has since soured on Biden
7. Someone from Delaware who thought Biden was a good senator but realized he isn't a good president.
8. Someone who for whatever reason supported Trump and then Biden, but refuses to vote for Biden again because of his stance on the Israel/Hamas war.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2024, 10:47:43 PM »

Richard Spencer?
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2024, 09:12:01 AM »

1. Middle class suburbanites (More likely to be male and if they're older, that's an added bonus).
2. Conservative who opposed Trump's response to Covid (more likely to be elderly).
3. Traditional Republican who didn't expect Trump to govern the way he campaigned, became disillusioned, but is willing to overlook his prior disappointment because Biden's been more disappointing.
4. Someone who thought Biden was going to bring  a return to normality.
5. A more traditional Republican type who thought Biden would govern as a neocon
6. Catholics who wanted a Catholic in office but has since soured on Biden
7. Someone from Delaware who thought Biden was a good senator but realized he isn't a good president.
8. Someone who for whatever reason supported Trump and then Biden, but refuses to vote for Biden again because of his stance on the Israel/Hamas war.

Most of those sound like an ideal No Labels 2024 voter with 3, 6 and 8 sounding like an ideal RFK JR 2024 voter.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2024, 09:16:59 AM »

I could see quite a few suburban women in places like Virginia, Georgia, and Arizona and maybe some blue collar/union men in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania who fit this mold.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2024, 12:11:38 PM »

I don't know. No Republican I know, including family members, will flip back to Trump in 2024 even though they aren't Biden fans. J6 sealed that. If Trump had conceded defeat and J6 never happened, I suspect a few of them would vote for him in 2024.
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2024, 12:36:23 PM »

White Suburban men, particularly in AZ and GA. I incidentally think white suburban women will trend to Biden over the abortion issue.
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2024, 12:46:33 PM »

Laki if he was American?
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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2024, 12:54:32 PM »

Someone who votes for the winner every election.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2024, 06:42:25 PM »

Honestly, someone that doesn’t even follow or care about politics that much.

Yes, apolitical swing voters, especially those who were impacted badly by inflation is the right answer here. Most of the answers in this thread are high-info voters and I suspect there are very few high-info Biden 2020 voters who are voting for Trump in 2024. (probably part of the reason why Biden at least holds up okay with high info groups like white seniors in recent polling)
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2024, 05:55:43 PM »

A normal person who is not a partisan hack. (like me)
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2024, 05:56:33 PM »

A normal person who is not a partisan hack. (like me)

A normal person would care about 1/6, and recognize it was a terrible day for this country.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2024, 06:00:42 PM »

A normal person who is not a partisan hack. (like me)

A normal person would care about 1/6, and recognize it was a terrible day for this country.

A normal person recognizes that, while embarrassing, 1/6 did not do any real damage to the country. Biden doubling down on everything bad about Trump without any of the good has done more real damage.

Trump -> Biden -> Trump supporters are people who were disappointed with Trump but realize Biden is even worse.
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2024, 06:01:48 PM »

A normal person who is not a partisan hack. (like me)

A normal person would care about 1/6, and recognize it was a terrible day for this country.

A normal person recognizes that, while embarrassing, 1/6 did not do any real damage to the country. Biden doubling down on everything bad about Trump without any of the good has done more real damage.

How is it more justifiable to vote for Trump in 2024 than 2020 . Trump in 2020 wasn’t anywhere near as insane as he is today and democrats in 2020 were the party defending rioting while today it’s the republicans.
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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2024, 06:12:19 PM »

A normal person who is not a partisan hack. (like me)

A normal person would care about 1/6, and recognize it was a terrible day for this country.

A normal person recognizes that, while embarrassing, 1/6 did not do any real damage to the country. Biden doubling down on everything bad about Trump without any of the good has done more real damage.

Trump -> Biden -> Trump supporters are people who were disappointed with Trump but realize Biden is even worse.

It was the first attempt since the Civil War to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power. That does serious damage to the fabric of a nation and to the threads holding it together. Trump in his second term has basically said he will do all he can to complete the unraveling of this nation, which will surely bring about its decline. I'm sure none of this matters for you, because when it happens you'll just take one of the first class flights you like bragging about so much, to another country.
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2024, 06:14:32 PM »

A normal person who is not a partisan hack. (like me)

A normal person would care about 1/6, and recognize it was a terrible day for this country.

A normal person recognizes that, while embarrassing, 1/6 did not do any real damage to the country. Biden doubling down on everything bad about Trump without any of the good has done more real damage.

How is it more justifiable to vote for Trump in 2024 than 2020 . Trump in 2020 wasn’t anywhere near as insane as he is today and democrats in 2020 were the party defending rioting while today it’s the republicans.


Mythologizing one embarrassing day that has been greatly exaggerated by the media is not as bad as defending an entire summer of cities burning.
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2024, 07:19:59 PM »

A normal person who is not a partisan hack. (like me)

A normal person would care about 1/6, and recognize it was a terrible day for this country.

A normal person recognizes that, while embarrassing, 1/6 did not do any real damage to the country. Biden doubling down on everything bad about Trump without any of the good has done more real damage.

How is it more justifiable to vote for Trump in 2024 than 2020 . Trump in 2020 wasn’t anywhere near as insane as he is today and democrats in 2020 were the party defending rioting while today it’s the republicans.


Mythologizing one embarrassing day that has been greatly exaggerated by the media is not as bad as defending an entire summer of cities burning.

Who was President when this happened?
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