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« on: January 25, 2024, 05:53:12 PM »

Republicans should be just as concerned about another 4 years of Trump. Yeah, you’ll get bragging rights and some policy wins, but is that worth the potential downsides?

- Likely a very, very bad 2026. We’ve already seen Dems overperform in special and midterm elections during the Biden years. Imagine how bad it could be for you under Trump.

- No incumbency in 2028. Try as he might, Trump will not be able to run again in 2028. Meanwhile, Dems will have a strong bench while Trump probably props up one of his kids or favorite syncophant in Congress to be the GOP nominee.

— More democratic norms broken. You may waive it away if it benefits you, but the shoe will be on the other foot eventually. Biden has tried to respect checks and balances, but the next Democratic president may not.

— Becoming President will not make him immune from all the charges against him, like the Georgia case. How will the ‘Law and Order’ party defend a GOP president under house arrest in the White House?

— Four more years of defending an increasingly erratic, aging narcissist. Have fun with that.


Moving beyond Trump is better for everyone. Why can’t people see that?
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2024, 05:55:03 PM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2024, 05:57:48 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2024, 06:01:56 PM by GAinDC »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2024, 06:09:28 PM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?

Somehow there’s always an existential threat requiring us to vote for Democrats. It’s been quite the decade of panic.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2024, 06:10:30 PM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?

Somehow there’s always an existential threat requiring us to vote for Democrats. It’s been quite the decade of panic.

Well we were right to be concerned. Even I never anticipated January 6th. Thanks for backing up all my arguments Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2024, 06:13:29 PM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?

Somehow there’s always an existential threat requiring us to vote for Democrats. It’s been quite the decade of panic.

Well we were right to be concerned. Even I never anticipated January 6th. Thanks for backing up all my arguments Smiley

Sounds like electing TRUMP will prevent another January 6th. Thank you.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2024, 06:31:20 PM »

Republicans should be just as concerned about another 4 years of Trump. Yeah, you’ll get bragging rights and some policy wins, but is that worth the potential downsides?

- Likely a very, very bad 2026. We’ve already seen Dems overperform in special and midterm elections during the Biden years. Imagine how bad it could be for you under Trump.

- No incumbency in 2028. Try as he might, Trump will not be able to run again in 2028. Meanwhile, Dems will have a strong bench while Trump probably props up one of his kids or favorite syncophant in Congress to be the GOP nominee.

— More democratic norms broken. You may waive it away if it benefits you, but the shoe will be on the other foot eventually. Biden has tried to respect checks and balances, but the next Democratic president may not.

— Becoming President will not make him immune from all the charges against him, like the Georgia case. How will the ‘Law and Order’ party defend a GOP president under house arrest in the White House?

— Four more years of defending an increasingly erratic, aging narcissist. Have fun with that.


Moving beyond Trump is better for everyone. Why can’t people see that?


1. They aren't thinking that far ahead, in fact they never have. In some ways their short term planning has paid off (Supreme Court majority), but as far as polarization goes it has been disastrous. I think Trump would try to cancel elections or invalidate results, but fail to.

2. He would definitely try to run in 2028. Since Republicans believe that him having broad support means he should be on the ballot regardless of the constitution I can see them nominating him again and using polling to say that Democrats were trying to illegally stop "the frontrunner".
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2024, 06:33:41 PM »

I don’t care about the Republican Party. I only care about Making America Great Again, which Americans in both parties and especially those in neither are capable of—but failing to do.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2024, 06:34:41 PM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?

Somehow there’s always an existential threat requiring us to vote for Democrats. It’s been quite the decade of panic.

Well we were right to be concerned. Even I never anticipated January 6th. Thanks for backing up all my arguments Smiley

Sounds like electing TRUMP will prevent another January 6th. Thank you.

Ah yes. At least you admit Trump and his entire cult are engaged in one massive racketeering scheme.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2024, 06:36:49 PM »

You greatly overestimate Trumps abilities. I wish he was that sly and mischievous
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2024, 06:41:23 PM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?

Somehow there’s always an existential threat requiring us to vote for Democrats. It’s been quite the decade of panic.

Well we were right to be concerned. Even I never anticipated January 6th. Thanks for backing up all my arguments Smiley

Sounds like electing TRUMP will prevent another January 6th. Thank you.

Sounds a lot like a threat of violence if Trump is not reelected. If you need to threaten another riot to get your candidate elected then your side is really not confident.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2024, 06:44:14 PM »

Can we really take the accusations of a side that cancels primaries, shifts them around, and takes their political opponents to court to remove them from the ballot (thus restricting democracy) seriously?
Make it make sense.
Not even Trump is talking about removing his opponents from the ballot. Sounds like he’s more confident than the Dems.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2024, 06:48:00 PM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?

Somehow there’s always an existential threat requiring us to vote for Democrats. It’s been quite the decade of panic.

Well we were right to be concerned. Even I never anticipated January 6th. Thanks for backing up all my arguments Smiley

Sounds like electing TRUMP will prevent another January 6th. Thank you.

Ah yes. At least you admit Trump and his entire cult are engaged in one massive racketeering scheme.

Biden would never engage in racketeering Wink
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2024, 06:49:28 PM »

One of his supporters has proposed removing Biden from the ballot in Texas and another has proposed it in Missouri, both without legal grounds.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2024, 08:51:52 PM »

I’ll take a bad midterm in 2026 if we flip 6-7 Senate seats this year. 👍

I’ve got some bad news for you on that front…
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2024, 09:13:26 PM »

Move on from Biden then, too.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2024, 09:48:46 PM »

I’ll take a bad midterm in 2026 if we flip 6-7 Senate seats this year. 👍

I’ve got some bad news for you on that front…

It's unlikely but not impossible with a 2016 style upset. Flip WV, OH, MT, AZ, MI, NV; maybe most of these Ds still outrun Biden but not by enough to win.
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2024, 10:35:30 PM »

I’ll take a bad midterm in 2026 if we flip 6-7 Senate seats this year. 👍

I’ve got some bad news for you on that front…

It's unlikely but not impossible with a 2016 style upset. Flip WV, OH, MT, AZ, MI, NV; maybe most of these Ds still outrun Biden but not by enough to win.

What about WI and PA?
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2024, 11:06:39 PM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?

He'll definitely try it, but I have enough faith to believe there's no question of it succeeding. I'm not saying that's any reason to support him, but it is a reason to tone down the fearmongering of a second Trump term. Of course, the very fact that he'd try to overturn an election is enough of a reason to vote against him no matter how mediocre the opposition.
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2024, 07:13:14 AM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?

Somehow there’s always an existential threat requiring us to vote for Democrats. It’s been quite the decade of panic.

Well we were right to be concerned. Even I never anticipated January 6th. Thanks for backing up all my arguments Smiley

Sounds like electing TRUMP will prevent another January 6th. Thank you.

Heatcharger, you've often skirted the line on here, but this sounds an awful lot like a threat of violence if Trump loses again.
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2024, 07:24:18 AM »

So democracy is over yet Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Interesting.

Thanks for the other point I forgot to add: If Trump’s succeeds in overturning Democracy, you will be responsible for helping him do it.

Frankly, I think Trump will try it. Jury is out on whether he succeeds, but if he doesn’t, Republicans pay the price in the long run.

Make sense, friend?

Somehow there’s always an existential threat requiring us to vote for Democrats. It’s been quite the decade of panic.

Well we were right to be concerned. Even I never anticipated January 6th. Thanks for backing up all my arguments Smiley

Sounds like electing TRUMP will prevent another January 6th. Thank you.

That basically implies the opposite of what you think it does.
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2024, 07:27:52 AM »

Let's just say that the cost benefit analysis here will be unique.
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2024, 07:32:41 AM »

Trump isn't gonna win anyways
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2024, 01:25:24 PM »

The idea that Republicans should be willing to lose 2024 to avoid a bad midterm in 2026 and lack of incumbency in 2028...also applies to Joe Biden lol
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2024, 06:16:15 PM »

Republicans should be just as concerned about another 4 years of Trump. Yeah, you’ll get bragging rights and some policy wins, but is that worth the potential downsides?

- Likely a very, very bad 2026. We’ve already seen Dems overperform in special and midterm elections during the Biden years. Imagine how bad it could be for you under Trump.

- No incumbency in 2028. Try as he might, Trump will not be able to run again in 2028. Meanwhile, Dems will have a strong bench while Trump probably props up one of his kids or favorite syncophant in Congress to be the GOP nominee.

— More democratic norms broken. You may waive it away if it benefits you, but the shoe will be on the other foot eventually. Biden has tried to respect checks and balances, but the next Democratic president may not.

— Becoming President will not make him immune from all the charges against him, like the Georgia case. How will the ‘Law and Order’ party defend a GOP president under house arrest in the White House?

— Four more years of defending an increasingly erratic, aging narcissist. Have fun with that.


Moving beyond Trump is better for everyone. Why can’t people see that?



Republicans more than likely do not think and/or feel the same as you do.

They are not required.

It may be that a Republican who has read what you wrote and posted is laughing.
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