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« Reply #775 on: June 01, 2024, 09:25:49 PM »

Apparently the BJP candidate for Allahabad ( not calling it Prayagraj) was a former communist party member.
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« Reply #776 on: June 02, 2024, 04:52:34 AM »



This is a good video of why 2004 hopes are little far fetched. These are the reasons he gives:

1. There is no reasonable study that has shown that lower turnout hurts the BJP. Some studies have shown that sometimes lower turnout could benefit the BJP as well

2. NDA is far stronger in UP/Bihar than it was in 2004. In 2004 the NDA only won 22 seats in both states while in 2019 that number was 101 and they got over a 50% vote share as well

3. Ram Mandir helps among Northern voters where the BJP has a lot of seats

4. There is no equivalent to Sonia Gandhi in 2004 for the opposition and the lack of one major leader gives the BJP the advantage on the issue of "strong stable leadership"

5. The BJP has far more momentum in the south today than it did back in 2004 and far more seats are winnable for them there then there was back then.

Bumping for when we receive the final poll results for the last round of voting that just concluded.  I am curious, by the way, to see if the BJP has received the 40 seats in the south this guy mentioned should be their target.

That's a really informative overview that frankly puts to shame a lot of Western election coverage, but... is it me or does the background music sound weirdly ominous for what's supposed to be a dispassionate electoral analysis?
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« Reply #777 on: June 02, 2024, 07:58:53 AM »

The Ram Mandir hysteria make me glad I renounced my citizenship; collective self-delusion like this will only end badly.
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« Reply #778 on: June 02, 2024, 08:36:38 AM »
« Edited: June 02, 2024, 08:54:34 AM by Logical »

Axis My India Andhra Assembly exit poll



NDA 98-120 - 51% (+5)
-TDP 78-96 - 42%
-JSP 16-18 - 7%
-BJP 4-6 - 2%

YSRCP 55-77 - 44% (-6)

INC+ 0-2 - 2% (+1)

Odisha Assembly


BJP 62-80 - 42% (+10)

BJD 62-80 - 42% (-3)

INC 5-8 - 12% (-4)
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« Reply #779 on: June 02, 2024, 10:19:05 AM »

Apparently the BJP candidate for Allahabad ( not calling it Prayagraj) was a former communist party member.

A lot of that about.
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« Reply #780 on: June 02, 2024, 10:23:20 AM »

Apparently the BJP candidate for Allahabad ( not calling it Prayagraj) was a former communist party member.

A lot of that about.
West Bengal says hi.
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« Reply #781 on: June 03, 2024, 06:47:30 AM »

India's descent into uniparty fascism continues.
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« Reply #782 on: June 03, 2024, 07:43:07 AM »

Axis My India Andhra Assembly exit poll

NDA 98-120 - 51% (+5)
-TDP 78-96 - 42%
-JSP 16-18 - 7%
-BJP 4-6 - 2%

YSRCP 55-77 - 44% (-6)
INC+ 0-2 - 2% (+1)

Odisha Assembly

BJP 62-80 - 42% (+10)
BJD 62-80 - 42% (-3)
INC 5-8 - 12% (-4)

Good riddance to YSRCP. I'm no particular fan of the TDP/NDA but the past government had no vision other than enriching their coffers — compare the trajectory of Telangana and Andhra post-bifurcation.

I never expected the BJP/NDA to lose this election, and am totally unsurprised with these exit polls. 2014/2019 rebuilt the political landscape, and the opposition has yet to provide a suitable alternative that would attract voters and challenge the BJP (rather than just running against the BJP). And I say that as someone who greatly dislikes the BJP.
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« Reply #783 on: June 03, 2024, 09:07:10 AM »

Apparently the BJP candidate for Allahabad ( not calling it Prayagraj) was a former communist party member.

A lot of that about.
West Bengal says hi.

Just a bunch of people cosplaying as Marxists, which has a nebulous meaning of “social justice” in India. Btw, BJP is expected to come close to displacing Left as second largest party in Kerela by vote share. Will have to see if that comes true.

The Thiruvanthapuram seat is predicted to be a close contest between Shashi Tharoor and BJP minister Rajeev Chandrashekar. If BJP wins, they will have officially arrived in Kerela.
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« Reply #784 on: June 03, 2024, 09:28:41 AM »

Axis My India Andhra Assembly exit poll

NDA 98-120 - 51% (+5)
-TDP 78-96 - 42%
-JSP 16-18 - 7%
-BJP 4-6 - 2%

YSRCP 55-77 - 44% (-6)
INC+ 0-2 - 2% (+1)

Odisha Assembly

BJP 62-80 - 42% (+10)
BJD 62-80 - 42% (-3)
INC 5-8 - 12% (-4)

Good riddance to YSRCP. I'm no particular fan of the TDP/NDA but the past government had no vision other than enriching their coffers — compare the trajectory of Telangana and Andhra post-bifurcation.

I never expected the BJP/NDA to lose this election, and am totally unsurprised with these exit polls. 2014/2019 rebuilt the political landscape, and the opposition has yet to provide a suitable alternative that would attract voters and challenge the BJP (rather than just running against the BJP). And I say that as someone who greatly dislikes the BJP.

If YSRCP loses, they would have been better off allying with BJP and taking a junior status in parliament for supremacy in state. Their biggest threat is being out of power and people seeing INC as the main alternative to TDP. Same with BJD. YSRCP and BJD being routed, not just losing, would be great for INC.
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« Reply #785 on: June 03, 2024, 12:23:26 PM »

Hi all, many thanks for the updates.

Does anyone know what time the vote counting starts on 4 June?

Also are there any good TV links (eg on YouTube), ideally in English, to watch the vote count?

What are the best sites for results inc result maps?

Thanks so much Smiley

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« Reply #786 on: June 03, 2024, 12:28:47 PM »
« Edited: June 03, 2024, 12:40:40 PM by President Punxsutawney Phil »

Hi all, many thanks for the updates.

Does anyone know what time the vote counting starts on 4 June?

Also are there any good TV links (eg on YouTube), ideally in English, to watch the vote count?

What are the best sites for results inc result maps?

Thanks so much Smiley

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I would personally check out liveblogs for information on these sorts of minitae.
EDIT: My bad lol, I saw 4 and thought you were talking about the UK election. Apologies.
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« Reply #787 on: June 03, 2024, 12:32:02 PM »

Hi all, many thanks for the updates.

Does anyone know what time the vote counting starts on 4 June?

Also are there any good TV links (eg on YouTube), ideally in English, to watch the vote count?

What are the best sites for results inc result maps?

Thanks so much Smiley

DC

Yeah it will be 10:30 PM ET tonight for us (8 AM India time).

I’d say some English channels to watch the results are NDTV, Republic TV, Times Now with NDTV being the least hackish .

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« Reply #788 on: June 03, 2024, 12:37:29 PM »



So seems like I.N.D.I.A is gonna try to claim the election was rigged
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« Reply #789 on: June 03, 2024, 09:36:30 PM »

Counting has begun(here are some streams)

https://www.youtube.com/live/UjTuhpV-7xU?si=8MbLEq8LNHhcRWj8

https://www.youtube.com/live/J1YT_XdABvo?si=3arNCQQ3pMiZS9Eb

https://www.youtube.com/live/Vrz5kghd8Sk?si=NHVN66O72MycThQL
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« Reply #790 on: June 03, 2024, 09:50:29 PM »

CNN India has NDA up 157-62-8


https://www.news18.com/elections/analytics-center/?s=IN&t=LS&v=map&
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« Reply #791 on: June 03, 2024, 09:56:59 PM »

India Today

NDA 140
INDIA 85
OTH 9

Most seats reporting are form Southern states
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« Reply #792 on: June 03, 2024, 10:05:06 PM »

India Today

NDA 140
INDIA 85
OTH 9

Most seats reporting are form Southern states

CNN News 18 has it at

NDA 251 INDIA 134 Other 16

https://www.news18.com/amp/
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« Reply #793 on: June 03, 2024, 10:06:16 PM »

India Today

NDA 200
INDIA 113
OTH 9

Gains for NDA in the East and South, losses in the Hindi belt
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« Reply #794 on: June 03, 2024, 10:07:33 PM »

India Today

NDA 140
INDIA 85
OTH 9

Most seats reporting are form Southern states

CNN News 18 has it at

NDA 251 INDIA 134 Other 16

https://www.news18.com/amp/

Very early still but SP is leading in 15 in UP. INDIA really needs SP to pull out a miracle to have any hope.
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« Reply #795 on: June 03, 2024, 10:12:14 PM »

The good news for INDIA is that under these numbers NDA is on track for 320-340 seats. The bad news is that counting trends usually gets better for the winning party.
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« Reply #796 on: June 03, 2024, 10:18:40 PM »

India Today

NDA 250
INDIA 153
OTH 14

INDIA putting up a good fight in UP, Maharashtra and Karnataka.
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« Reply #797 on: June 03, 2024, 10:21:06 PM »

India Today

NDA 250
INDIA 153
OTH 14

INDIA putting up a good fight in UP, Maharashtra and Karnataka.

UP is completely unexpected, Maharashtra and Karnataka not so much for me.

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« Reply #798 on: June 03, 2024, 10:25:23 PM »

With these trends if the BJP is more dependent on the south it seems delimitation will be delayed again.
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« Reply #799 on: June 03, 2024, 10:31:53 PM »

Seeing BJP leading in 3 seats in Kerala is quite something.
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