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« Reply #600 on: February 13, 2024, 10:15:14 PM »

Suozzi outperforming Biden 2020 is impressive
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« Reply #601 on: February 13, 2024, 10:16:58 PM »

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« Reply #602 on: February 13, 2024, 10:17:10 PM »

To add a fine point, once again: all of the major publications and pundits made SUCH a big deal over the last week(s) about how the race was a tossup, neck and neck, immigration had "dominated" it, etc. only to once again have eggs on their faces.

They continue to literally just make up their own narratives at this point, and funny how it's constantly "dems in disarray"

I still want to see the final margin before saying too much. But it does seem like a lot of the undecided vote lately has been Dem leaning. Sure enough, the Trump share in polls pretty closely reflects his 2020 numbers. I expect the presidential race to converge on the 2020 outcome despite Biden's problems.
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« Reply #603 on: February 13, 2024, 10:17:25 PM »

It’s official according to Wikipedia:
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« Reply #604 on: February 13, 2024, 10:17:43 PM »

Since Suozzi won, the narrative of this is that special elections don't matter at all and changes nothing for November.
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« Reply #605 on: February 13, 2024, 10:17:45 PM »

While better than Trump winning, I'm actually a bit scared what would happen if all the polls show Trump winning or like a tied race, and Biden ends up winning big. I can't imagine it would go over well with the nutjobs in this country.

Biden won't win "big" in the sense of it being way bigger than 2020, but right now the baseline expected outcome should be that Biden will win fairly similarly to 2020 (maybe by a bit more, maybe by a bit less), but that polls will probably show Trump slightly ahead going into election day due to poor methodology and inability to reach a representative sample of voters. And the lower quality polls from Republican robopollsters and the like will have Trump ahead by even more.

You are right it will just lead them into more conspiracy theories. But that is nothing new, and is not really avoidable either. They also have a conspiracy theory for 2020 as well, of course.
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« Reply #606 on: February 13, 2024, 10:19:57 PM »

Guy on CNN mentions Siena poll about Trump beating Biden by 5 and no one mentioning that same poll had Suozzi only up by 4...
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« Reply #607 on: February 13, 2024, 10:20:02 PM »

Since Suozzi won, the narrative of this is that special elections don't matter at all and changes nothing for November.


In regards to the above:

..Cause the immediate narrative is already set to be one of the three:

- "The result means little cause Suozzi has many of the advantages of incumbency, and is running to replace a notoriously awful representative who was one of the few ever expelled from the House. he honestly should have overperformed by more"

- "Democrats inability to match their previous vote share, despite numerous advantages signals significant problems going forward, even with a suburban electorate."

- "Suozzi's failure to win a Biden district last held by George santos of all people suggests that the 2022 New York coalition is still here. The Democrats are in serious trouble."

Which seems to suggest that the data people are expecting outcome 1.

All self-described Experts, innitiate Narrative One!
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« Reply #608 on: February 13, 2024, 10:20:05 PM »

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« Reply #609 on: February 13, 2024, 10:20:23 PM »

Also CNN oddly has not called this race yet. They're airing Pilip's concession speech before even calling it...
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« Reply #610 on: February 13, 2024, 10:20:33 PM »

Congratulations , so much for Biden poor Approval
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« Reply #611 on: February 13, 2024, 10:20:58 PM »

To add a fine point, once again: all of the major publications and pundits made SUCH a big deal over the last week(s) about how the race was a tossup, neck and neck, immigration had "dominated" it, etc. only to once again have eggs on their faces.

They continue to literally just make up their own narratives at this point, and funny how it's constantly "dems in disarray"

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« Reply #612 on: February 13, 2024, 10:21:07 PM »

Also CNN oddly has not called this race yet. They're airing Pilip's concession speech before even calling it...

MSNBC and CNN want views. That's why.
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« Reply #613 on: February 13, 2024, 10:21:11 PM »

Assuming all of Nassau right now is EVote, I project a Suozzi win of about 7% when said and done (He'll lose the Nassau Evote by less than 10). If the reported vote is a combination of both, his total margin could very well approach 10%.
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« Reply #614 on: February 13, 2024, 10:21:14 PM »

Great news for November!

That said, how much did the snow impact things?
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« Reply #615 on: February 13, 2024, 10:22:43 PM »

Suozzi was Santos' immediate predecessor. Kinda funny that you could look at this as Suozzi going "okay, I'm back. Let's just agree to forget about that little weirdo from last year, okay?"
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« Reply #616 on: February 13, 2024, 10:23:17 PM »

Suozzi was Santos' immediate predecessor. Kinda funny that you could look at this as Suozzi going "okay, I'm back. Let's just agree to forget about that little weirdo from last year, okay?"

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« Reply #617 on: February 13, 2024, 10:23:33 PM »



While this shouldn’t be notable, it’s encouraging that Pilip is conceding and not throwing a Trump-inspired tantrum about bogus voter fraud claims.
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« Reply #618 on: February 13, 2024, 10:23:57 PM »

Great news for November!

That said, how much did the snow impact things?
Nah, it was mostly Santos.
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« Reply #619 on: February 13, 2024, 10:24:01 PM »

With Gillibrand on the ballot we are gonna sweep NY in H
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« Reply #620 on: February 13, 2024, 10:24:30 PM »

Can you imagine having a brain and voting for a Republican?
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« Reply #621 on: February 13, 2024, 10:24:41 PM »

so far, the biggest takeaway is that the immigration scare tactics did not work at all

that is bad news for the GOP because this election was taking place at a time when even the rest of the
so called mainstream media was also hyping up the immigration issue

in the end, immigration just was not the effective attack that the GOP Cleary thought it was going to be
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« Reply #622 on: February 13, 2024, 10:24:50 PM »

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« Reply #623 on: February 13, 2024, 10:25:33 PM »

Great news for November!

That said, how much did the snow impact things?

The snow stopped around 1-2 PM and it wasn't a huge amount by NY standards so not that much
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« Reply #624 on: February 13, 2024, 10:27:13 PM »

If this election tells me anything it's that the immigration issue isn't that important politically. NY-3 is ground zero for immigration fearmongering
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