Who wins a Tim Ryan vs. Vivek Ramaswamy governor’s race? (Trump midterm)

[DaleCooper]

The only candidates Ramaswamy could beat would be AOC type people. Everything Ramaswamy stands for is a huge middle finger to the people that comprise the Republican coalition now. It'd be about as bad as the Democrats resurrecting a segregationist Dixiecrat and running him statewide in Minnesota or some other likely D state.

[Schiff for Senate]

Ryan but not by much.

[Rjjr77]

Who wins this hypothetical governor’s race between Tim Ryan and Vivek Ramaswamy in a Trump midterm?

JD Vance barely campaigned, Vivek would win by almost the same margin without showing.

Sherrod Brown, a popular incumbent, in a democrat leaning year outspent his terrible unliked opponent by almost 30 million dollars and underperformed his polling.

Underperforming polling is a meaningless assessment of candidate strength, all that tells us is that the polls were getting an inaccurate sample. Brown won comfortably, well beyond what a normal Democrat could do.

Jim Renacci was the closest thing you could get to a sacrificial lamb, in a democrat leaning year, and Brown and Brown supporters, spent over 30 MILLION Dollars to Renacci's 7 Million to not even top 54%. Brown barely won places like Ashtabula and Wood county, despite the massive advantage.

Sherrod Brown has NEVER run in a year where it did not favor him. Hes a heck of a retail politician, and a pretty good senator, but to ignore his flaws is disaster.

Hes an incumbent senator with positive approval ratings polling at 39%, in a state where early polling tends to favor democrats. Hes in for, at best for him, the fight of his life. In a midterm for a row office (which democrats have not won a statewide non-federal race since 2006) hes toast

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Who wins this hypothetical governor’s race between Tim Ryan and Vivek Ramaswamy in a Trump midterm?

JD Vance barely campaigned, Vivek would win by almost the same margin without showing.

Sherrod Brown, a popular incumbent, in a democrat leaning year outspent his terrible unliked opponent by almost 30 million dollars and underperformed his polling.

Underperforming polling is a meaningless assessment of candidate strength, all that tells us is that the polls were getting an inaccurate sample. Brown won comfortably, well beyond what a normal Democrat could do.

Jim Renacci was the closest thing you could get to a sacrificial lamb, in a democrat leaning year, and Brown and Brown supporters, spent over 30 MILLION Dollars to Renacci's 7 Million to not even top 54%. Brown barely won places like Ashtabula and Wood county, despite the massive advantage.

Sherrod Brown has NEVER run in a year where it did not favor him. Hes a heck of a retail politician, and a pretty good senator, but to ignore his flaws is disaster.

Hes an incumbent senator with positive approval ratings polling at 39%, in a state where early polling tends to favor democrats. Hes in for, at best for him, the fight of his life. In a midterm for a row office (which democrats have not won a statewide non-federal race since 2006) hes toast

You hope

[DrScholl]

The candidate with the easier name to pronounce wins. Ohio has lots of areas that would not be comfortable supporting someone like Ramaswamy. With that being said Ramaswamy's name is enough to keep him from winning a primary when there are tons of viable Republicans with easy to pronounce (i.e. European) surnames.

[Spectator]

Like Gaetz in Florida, Ramaswamy might be the one Republican that could lose this race. So of course that means Republicans will likely nominate him.

[TDAS04]

As obvious as it is that Ohio is now a firmly Republican state, a narrow Ryan victory in this scenario sounds like something Ohio Democrats could pull off. Not implausible at all.

[DaleCooper]

I don't even think it would be that narrow of a victory for Tim Ryan. Ramaswamy appeals to no one other than conservative Atlas posters, apparently, and a handful of weird Joe Rogan fans. He's a giant middle finger to the evangelical Republicans, a giant middle finger to the xenophobic Republicans, a giant middle finger to the working class Republicans (especially the Obama-Trump people that rejected Romney). Disastrous candidate for a statewide race, made exponentially worse by it being a Trump midterm. I can't think of a worse fit for "Real America" than him.

[Spectator]

I don't even think it would be that narrow of a victory for Tim Ryan. Ramaswamy appeals to no one other than conservative Atlas posters, apparently, and a handful of weird Joe Rogan fans. He's a giant middle finger to the evangelical Republicans, a giant middle finger to the xenophobic Republicans, a giant middle finger to the working class Republicans (especially the Obama-Trump people that rejected Romney). Disastrous candidate for a statewide race, made exponentially worse by it being a Trump midterm. I can't think of a worse fit for "Real America" than him.

Watch Trump endorse him too despite all those vulnerabilities

[DaleCooper]

I don't even think it would be that narrow of a victory for Tim Ryan. Ramaswamy appeals to no one other than conservative Atlas posters, apparently, and a handful of weird Joe Rogan fans. He's a giant middle finger to the evangelical Republicans, a giant middle finger to the xenophobic Republicans, a giant middle finger to the working class Republicans (especially the Obama-Trump people that rejected Romney). Disastrous candidate for a statewide race, made exponentially worse by it being a Trump midterm. I can't think of a worse fit for "Real America" than him.

Watch Trump endorse him too despite all those vulnerabilities

Even with a Trump endorsement, that primary would be extremely close similar to the Dr. Oz situation. The reason Trump's endorsements are usually so effective is because he's endorsing people who are already perfect fits for the places they're running in. When he goes against that and endorses people like that weird cowboy hat guy for Nebraska governor or the guy that Roy Moore beat, they don't do as well.

[wnwnwn]

Vivek's function as a republican is to attract some young non white males to the party. Why would he run as a republican candidate?
In case he does, I suppose he would try to show an entrepreneur image and campaing with that in northeastern Ohio. I suppose he would also try to show himself as a generic MOR R in the suburbs. Obviously, Ryan and the dems would put some attacks ads on his 2024 primary campaing statements.
I think that he could win thata race if his team helps him to play his strenghs and minimize the rest. If he tries to do his 2024 campaing again, Ryan would win.

[S019]

Why is this forum so obsessed with Ohio?

[Left Wing]

Why is this forum so obsessed with Ohio?

Because we’re just skibidi like that

[FT-02 Senator A.F.E. 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Why is this forum so obsessed with Ohio?

cuz they got the biggest gyatt on this side of the mississippi

[Progressive Pessimist]

Why is this forum so obsessed with Ohio?

cuz they got the biggest gyatt on this side of the mississippi

No way! Illinois is twice as thicc!