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« on: July 15, 2004, 11:25:26 PM »

How come of all the major metropolitan areas in America, Milwaukee is the one where the Republicans may have gained the most in 2000?

Why Milwaukee?
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2004, 11:26:37 PM »

Where did you get this information from?
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2004, 11:28:55 PM »

It's right there on the map!

Places like the Philadelphia suburbs used to be worse than metro Milwaukee. Not anymore.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2004, 11:38:58 PM »

It's right there on the map!

Places like the Philadelphia suburbs used to be worse than metro Milwaukee. Not anymore.

Oh I thought you meant Republicans in general (local and state candidates) not on a Presidential level.

Now I'm guessing you are saying that the Philly suburbs (Montgomery, Bucks, Delaware...) they used to be more Republican than Milwaukee and this is no longer true. Well I'll tell you I would never expect a town like Milwaukee to be more Republican than the Philly 'burbs. That is odd. One would think that a big union town like that would be strong Kerry.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2004, 11:43:25 PM »

I'm sure Gore carried the city, but he got demolished in the suburbs.

Judging by the 2000 results, Milwaukee is getting to be like Cincinnati where the suburbs are polarized from the city even more so than in other large metropolitan areas.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2004, 11:56:59 PM »

I think it is because of Young Republican like the city.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2004, 03:48:41 AM »

Milwaukee County is totally dominated by the city and is safely Democrat.
The outer suburbs, which are probably not that outer (never been there, just judging from  geography) are very Republican and are, unlike most other large suburban counties, trending further Republican and not Democrat.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2004, 05:14:39 AM »

Milwaukee proper used to elect SPUSA Mayors Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2004, 05:17:29 AM »

Wisconsin 2000 Township map:

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2004, 06:34:36 AM »

That's wierd! I'm guessing the red splodge at the bottom is Madison and surrounding towns? Why are it's surbubs so heavily Democrat?
Northern and Western WI looks odd, why such a mixture of Democrat townships and Republican ones?

What is the huge dark red shape North West of Green Bay?
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2004, 08:41:28 AM »

That's wierd! I'm guessing the red splodge at the bottom is Madison and surrounding towns? Why are it's surbubs so heavily Democrat?
Northern and Western WI looks odd, why such a mixture of Democrat townships and Republican ones?

What is the huge dark red shape North West of Green Bay?
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2004, 10:42:56 AM »

I'm sure Gore carried the city, but he got demolished in the suburbs.

I think Gore got 60-70% in the city, but actually did worse in metro Milwaukee than in the whole state of Wisconsin.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2004, 12:01:48 PM »

Yeah, that dark red county is an Indian reservation.  This type of red and blue mixture is common to the upper midwest as the states are not either heavily Republican or Democrat.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2004, 01:26:24 PM »

theres a little bitty red dot where i live Cool
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2004, 08:37:44 PM »

Looks like the GOP is gaining in metro areas in the Midwest and the Dems are gaining in Florida, the Southwest and the Northeast...

1988-2000 highest Republican swing among large Metro areas:

1. Austin, TX
2. Pittsburgh, PA
3. Milwaukee, WI
4. San Antonio, TX
5. Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN
6. Houston, TX
7. Salt Lake City, UT
8. Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
9. Kansas City, MO-KS
10. Oklahoma City, OK

Largest Democratic swing:

1. West Palm Beach, FL
2. Orlando, FL
3. New York City, NY
4. Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, FL
5. Philadelphia, PA
6. Los Angeles, CA
7. Boston, MA
8. Las Vegas, NV
9. Chicago, IL
10. Phoenix, AZ
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2004, 08:40:22 PM »

I'm sure Gore carried the city, but he got demolished in the suburbs.

I think Gore got 60-70% in the city, but actually did worse in metro Milwaukee than in the whole state of Wisconsin.

It is interesting that the Upper Midwest (and perhaps New Hampshire) are the only areas of the country where non-metro areas are almost as Democratic as metro areas.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2004, 11:05:08 PM »
« Edited: July 16, 2004, 11:05:34 PM by Better Red Than Dead »

That's wierd! I'm guessing the red splodge at the bottom is Madison and surrounding towns? Why are it's surbubs so heavily Democrat?

Madison = The San Francisco of the Midwest
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2004, 01:47:10 AM »

Looks like the GOP is gaining in metro areas in the Midwest and the Dems are gaining in Florida, the Southwest and the Northeast...

1988-2000 highest Republican swing among large Metro areas:

1. Austin, TX
2. Pittsburgh, PA
3. Milwaukee, WI
4. San Antonio, TX
5. Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN
6. Houston, TX
7. Salt Lake City, UT
8. Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
9. Kansas City, MO-KS
10. Oklahoma City, OK

Largest Democratic swing:

1. West Palm Beach, FL
2. Orlando, FL
3. New York City, NY
4. Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, FL
5. Philadelphia, PA
6. Los Angeles, CA
7. Boston, MA
8. Las Vegas, NV
9. Chicago, IL
10. Phoenix, AZ

Prepare for a Pennsylvania Red blob in the east and more blue in the west.  Poconos are taking in a lot of New Yorkers, though I'm concerned about the Lehigh Valley which is startlingly more Republican.  The once GOP strong Philly suburbs are slowly eroding and voting Dem in Presidential elections.  
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2004, 10:49:30 AM »

Looks like the GOP is gaining in metro areas in the Midwest and the Dems are gaining in Florida, the Southwest and the Northeast...

1988-2000 highest Republican swing among large Metro areas:

1. Austin, TX
2. Pittsburgh, PA
3. Milwaukee, WI
4. San Antonio, TX
5. Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN
6. Houston, TX
7. Salt Lake City, UT
8. Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
9. Kansas City, MO-KS
10. Oklahoma City, OK

Largest Democratic swing:

1. West Palm Beach, FL
2. Orlando, FL
3. New York City, NY
4. Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, FL
5. Philadelphia, PA
6. Los Angeles, CA
7. Boston, MA
8. Las Vegas, NV
9. Chicago, IL
10. Phoenix, AZ
Very nice stat!
Source?
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2004, 10:34:54 PM »

Looks like the GOP is gaining in metro areas in the Midwest and the Dems are gaining in Florida, the Southwest and the Northeast...

1988-2000 highest Republican swing among large Metro areas:

1. Austin, TX
2. Pittsburgh, PA
3. Milwaukee, WI
4. San Antonio, TX
5. Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN
6. Houston, TX
7. Salt Lake City, UT
8. Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
9. Kansas City, MO-KS
10. Oklahoma City, OK

Largest Democratic swing:

1. West Palm Beach, FL
2. Orlando, FL
3. New York City, NY
4. Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, FL
5. Philadelphia, PA
6. Los Angeles, CA
7. Boston, MA
8. Las Vegas, NV
9. Chicago, IL
10. Phoenix, AZ
Very nice stat!
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Lewis T.,

A poster at the old forum sent me a spreadsheet of the presidential results of all the Metro Areas in 1988 and 2000. From that, I just looked at the top 50 metros (from the census).

I can e-mail you the spreadsheet if you are interested.
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2004, 09:12:28 AM »

If it's a spreadsheet, it's likely in some newer excel version that I can't read...
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2004, 06:46:37 PM »

Why are [Madison's] surbubs so heavily Democrat?

Probably because of the state employees who live in those suburbs.  If you are a paid (or contributing) member of this site you should check out Maine's city/town map.  Augusta is the city in Kennebec County on both sides of the Kennebec River.  Most of the surrounding towns gave pluralities for Gore in 2000.  Wisconsin is bigger than Maine and it's counties probably smaller, plus I get the sense Wisconsin has a large state bureaucracy (and there are likely many former state employees from the pre-Tommy Thompson era), so it's no surprise that Gore's capitol area edge would extend a few counties out.

Sincerely,

Kevin Lamoreau
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2004, 09:19:32 PM »

Then why are the capital cities of Missouri and Oregon so much more Republican than the rest of the state?
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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2004, 08:47:29 AM »
« Edited: September 11, 2005, 10:39:58 PM by Kevinstat »

Then why are the capital cities of Missouri and Oregon so much more Republican than the rest of the state?

It could be that state employees and former state employees make up a smaller percentage of the population of Jefferson City and Salem then they do of Madison and Augusta.  It could also be that the civil service systems (including employee benefits) in those states is such that it is less likely to make state empolyees supportive of Presidential candidates like Al Gore.  The less different a state employee who lives in the state capitol's economic status is from someone doing similar work in the private sector of a city of comperable size, the more likely those people are to vote similarly in my opinion.

Sincerely,

Kevin Lamoreau
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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2004, 05:49:07 AM »

In the case of Missouri, I'd venture a blind guess that while the Capitol, governor's mansion etc are at Jefferson City, much of the lower branches of state government is elsewhere. Otherwise I'd expect the area to have more inhabitants.
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