SB 118-18: Replacing Subregional Seats with Class II Regional Seats - Failed
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« Reply #75 on: November 25, 2023, 05:52:11 PM »

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« Reply #76 on: November 26, 2023, 11:32:52 PM »

Amendment fails 2-7-1-8
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« Reply #77 on: November 26, 2023, 11:43:52 PM »

Modified version of LT's proposal. This doesn't strike the original reform and also limits the power of the Senate to change state boundaries.

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To replace subregional seats with a second class of regional seats

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Be It Resolved in the Atlasian Senate Assembled, that upon ratification by 2/3rds of the Regions, the Fifth Constitution of Atlasia shall be amended as follows:

Quote from: Article II
1. The several states of this Republic shall be apportioned among three contiguous, autonomous Regions. Each region shall be further subdivided into two subregions.
2. The northern Region shall consist of the states of Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Vermont, and Atlasian Virgin Islands.
i. The Northeastern Subregion shall consist of the states of Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Atlasian Virgin Islands.
ii. The Great Lakes Subregion shall consist of the states of Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

3. The southern Region shall consist of the states of Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia, and the District of Columbia.
i. The Upper Southern Subregion shall consist of the states of Arkansas, Delaware, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and the District of Columbia.
ii. The Deep Southern Subregion shall consist of the states of Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, and Texas

4. The western Region shall consist of the states of Alaska, Arizona, Atlasian Samoa, California, Colorado, Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Montana, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Northern Mariana Islands, Nebraska, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming.
i. The Mountain West Subregion shall consist of the states of Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Montana, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Nebraska, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming.
ii. The Pacific Subregion shall consist of the states of Alaska, Atlasian Samoa, California, Guam, Hawaii, Northern Mariana Islands, Oregon, and Washington.


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2. In addition, no subregional senate election shall admit as eligible voters any person having resided in any other region within the fifty-six days prior to the commencement of the election. All persons registered in a subregion shall have a right to eligiblity for ballot access and a right to popular election to the subregional senate seat.

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3. Aside from the exceptions as laid out by this section, no region-wide or subregional election or referendum may deny any person the right to vote who would, if a federal election were held concurrently, be eligible to vote in such an election.

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Quote from: Article III
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3. The Senate shall consist of eighteen fifteen Senators; nine elected at large and one two elected for each region and each subregion.

4. No person shall be a Senator who has not attained two hundred or more posts, nor whose account is fewer than fourteen hundred and forty hours old, nor shall any person be a regional or subregional senator who is not a citizen of the region or subregion they are chosen to represent.

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2. The manner of election for regional Senators shall be as follows:
i. Each region shall elect a Senator for a term of four months by popular election of the region’s residents administered by the regional government in a manner prescribed by the legislature thereof. There shall be two classes of regional senators. Regional Senate elections for class I Senators shall be held in the months of February, June, and October. Regional Senate elections for class II Senators shall be held in the months of April, August, and December.
ii. Regional Senate vacancies occurring more than thirty days prior to the end of the term shall be filled by special election of the region’s residents administered by the regional government within twenty days of the vacancy.
iii. Regional Senate vacancies occurring within thirty days of the end of the term, as well as the interim between a vacancy and a prescribed special election, may be filled in accordance with the laws of the region in question; should no such law exist then the region’s executive shall have the power to make such an appointment.

3. The manner of election for subregional Senators shall be as follows:
i. Each subregion shall elect a Senator for a term of four months by popular election of the subregion’s residents administered by its constituent regional government in a manner prescribed by the legislature thereof. Subegional Senate elections shall be held in the months of April, August, and December.
ii. Subregional Senate vacancies occurring more than thirty days prior to the end of the term shall be filled by a special election of the subregion’s residents administered by its constituent regional government within twenty days of the vacancy.
iii. Subregional Senate vacancies occurring within thirty days of the end of the term shall be filled by the subregional Senator elected for the following term immediately upon conclusion of their election.


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Quote from: Article VII
Section 2. Lands and States.
New states may be admitted by the Senate into this Union, and apportioned among the several Regions as may be appropriate; but no new state shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the Regions concerned as well as of the Senate.
The Senate shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the Republic of Atlasia.
The Regional legislatures may alter the boundaries of states and counties of states located within their respective Region at will.
The Senate may also alter the boundaries of states and counties, when the border in question is located between two or more regions. 2/3 of Senators voting must agree if a state boundary is being changed.

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This Constitutional Amendment eliminates subregional seats in favor of a second class of regional seats. It also limits the ability of Regions and the Senate to alter certain boundaries.
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« Reply #78 on: November 27, 2023, 01:22:01 AM »

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« Reply #79 on: November 27, 2023, 10:41:59 AM »

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« Reply #80 on: November 27, 2023, 11:47:00 AM »

A vote is open on the amendment

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« Reply #81 on: November 27, 2023, 04:44:47 PM »

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« Reply #82 on: November 27, 2023, 05:34:11 PM »

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« Reply #83 on: November 27, 2023, 05:57:10 PM »

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« Reply #84 on: November 27, 2023, 08:28:50 PM »

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« Reply #85 on: November 27, 2023, 08:49:57 PM »

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« Reply #86 on: November 28, 2023, 06:43:13 AM »

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« Reply #87 on: November 28, 2023, 11:26:32 PM »

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« Reply #88 on: November 29, 2023, 10:54:57 AM »

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« Reply #89 on: November 29, 2023, 11:00:17 AM »

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« Reply #90 on: November 29, 2023, 04:24:05 PM »

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« Reply #91 on: November 30, 2023, 11:57:03 AM »

Aye.

This is exactly how the Senate should be set up! 2 senators per region, plus the slate of at-large senators. The next best thing after bicameralism.
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« Reply #92 on: November 30, 2023, 03:54:54 PM »

Amendment fails 3-8-1-5

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« Reply #93 on: December 02, 2023, 02:20:01 AM »

A final vote is beginning.

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« Reply #94 on: December 03, 2023, 02:57:55 AM »

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« Reply #95 on: December 03, 2023, 06:38:20 AM »

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« Reply #96 on: December 03, 2023, 07:03:26 AM »

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« Reply #97 on: December 03, 2023, 08:02:47 AM »

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« Reply #98 on: December 03, 2023, 01:15:50 PM »

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« Reply #99 on: December 03, 2023, 02:45:57 PM »

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