There is something f’n rotten in major student orgs on campuses

[Devils30]

How long until this stuff permanently ruptures the Democratic coalition? Jews, Asians, Indians, 1/2 of Hispanics will defect to the GOP whenever one of these lefties gets the nomination. You can see friction coming in 2028.

Israel/Palestine will not rupture the Democratic coalition. Reparations very well could, though.

neither will to any measurable extent

Some of it depends on who the GOP puts forth after Trump and that's really a wildcard at the moment. If Jews defected to the GOP over Israel I bet a lot of donors would pound home the idea of colleges ending standardized tests, which in turn would make Asian voters switch sides too.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Tulane University

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy5OJbetI_W/

[DavidB.]

What the hell is happening in America?

https://twitter.com/AnnieSun16/status/1718749046016221548?s=20

[jojoju1998]

What the hell is happening in America?

https://twitter.com/AnnieSun16/status/1718749046016221548?s=20

Here's a terrible terrible hot take.

These kids, especially the Gen Z kids are not being " open minded ". They're stuck on their phones and social media all the damn time, and so they soak up all of this nonsense, without ironically using their critical thinking skills.... if they had any at all.

And what do I mean by that ? For the vast majority of college students, they can just bullcrap their way through the general education majors.

Not everyone is going to get a degree from a prestigious liberal arts University. It's probably going to be more like Boise State.

[Aurelius2]

Time to ban tiktok already, yeesh.

[Aurelius2]

Hot Take :

American academia is more sympathetic to Palestine because they are stuck in a Cold War mentality, where Israel is seen as a puppet regime of the United States, and imperialism is bad.

No, it's entirely about skin color. It's not even that Palestine is anti-US because if that were the case then we'd see much more academic support for Russia than we do.

This is backwards, I think. The focus on 'skin color' - real or contorted - and 'whiteness', reframing modern issues as between "colonizers"/"the colonized" was built out of a desire a few decades ago to have the Palestinian cause reframed as the ultimate litmus test of good versus evil. This tendency is not the "end result" of this type of discourse: it is the origin.

There's an element of this, but it doesn't capture the full picture. In the 60s and 70s, led by Arafat, the Palestinian movement very successfully sought to recast itself as the vanguard of a wider anti-colonial/anti-imperialist/liberationist movement. In doing so he internationalized the cause and won much support from third worldists and the Western left. Until then, it had been largely a blood-and-soil nationalist movement. Said, Fanon, et al were around long before this shift in Palestinian rhetoric.

[Devils30]

What the hell is happening in America?

https://twitter.com/AnnieSun16/status/1718749046016221548?s=20

Here's a terrible terrible hot take.

These kids, especially the Gen Z kids are not being " open minded ". They're stuck on their phones and social media all the damn time, and so they soak up all of this nonsense, without ironically using their critical thinking skills.... if they had any at all.

And what do I mean by that ? For the vast majority of college students, they can just bullcrap their way through the general education majors.

Not everyone is going to get a degree from a prestigious liberal arts University. It's probably going to be more like Boise State.

This isn't free speech, this is a threat that will result in prison time if the person is actually from here (aka not a Russian troll).

[OSR stands with Israel]

What the hell is happening in America?

https://twitter.com/AnnieSun16/status/1718749046016221548?s=20

Academia is overdue for a reckoning and yes they need to be forced to bend their knee . Some stuff that can be done

1. Cut of all funding to university programs that promote this type of nonsense in the classroom and in research

2. Make it clear that super low Admin-Student ratio is unacceptable and they will lose funding if they don’t reduce their admin staff . You can also ban dei as that would force them to reduce their admin staff too

3. Schools/programs that funds or recognizes organizations should have their funding cut

4. Enforce immigration laws and cancel student visas of international students who went to these pro Hamas protests

5. Obviously expel students who behave in this deplorable manner


If this doenst work then simply only fund degree programs that are actually useful in the job market . So no student loans or scholarships for degrees that don’t fit in that criteria

[T'Chenka]

Academia is overdue for a reckoning and yes they need to be forced to bend their knee . Some stuff that can be done

1. Cut of all funding to university programs that promote this type of nonsense in the classroom and in research

2. Make it clear that super low Admin-Student ratio is unacceptable and they will lose funding if they don’t reduce their admin staff . You can also ban dei as that would force them to reduce their admin staff too

3. Schools/programs that funds or recognizes organizations should have their funding cut

4. Enforce immigration laws and cancel student visas of international students who went to these pro Hamas protests

5. Obviously expel students who behave in this deplorable manner


If this doenst work then simply only fund degree programs that are actually useful in the job market . So no student loans or scholarships for degrees that don’t fit in that criteria

This is extremely authoritarian. It makes sense why you support DeSantis. Lucky for everybody else, America isn't a fascist dystopia (yet) and your policies will not be enacted.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Academia is overdue for a reckoning and yes they need to be forced to bend their knee . Some stuff that can be done

1. Cut of all funding to university programs that promote this type of nonsense in the classroom and in research

2. Make it clear that super low Admin-Student ratio is unacceptable and they will lose funding if they don’t reduce their admin staff . You can also ban dei as that would force them to reduce their admin staff too

3. Schools/programs that funds or recognizes organizations should have their funding cut

4. Enforce immigration laws and cancel student visas of international students who went to these pro Hamas protests

5. Obviously expel students who behave in this deplorable manner


If this doenst work then simply only fund degree programs that are actually useful in the job market . So no student loans or scholarships for degrees that don’t fit in that criteria

This is extremely authoritarian. It makes sense why you support DeSantis. Lucky for everybody else, America isn't a fascist dystopia (yet) and your policies will not be enacted.

The way academia has been behaving the past Month is a complete mask off moment and yes hopefully every red state governor implements these proposals . Doing so would bring such a needed reckoning and as you can see in this thread , it’s getting support from many liberals like Leif , Mongoose , S019 , Frodo as well so the fact is academia is losing the support they had from liberals too cause this was yes a mask off moment .

When mask off moments happen, it causes reckonings because that yes causes institutions to lose the trust they once had and yes if you are an institution that relies on taxpayer funding then yes that is important.

[jojoju1998]

Academia is overdue for a reckoning and yes they need to be forced to bend their knee . Some stuff that can be done

1. Cut of all funding to university programs that promote this type of nonsense in the classroom and in research

2. Make it clear that super low Admin-Student ratio is unacceptable and they will lose funding if they don’t reduce their admin staff . You can also ban dei as that would force them to reduce their admin staff too

3. Schools/programs that funds or recognizes organizations should have their funding cut

4. Enforce immigration laws and cancel student visas of international students who went to these pro Hamas protests

5. Obviously expel students who behave in this deplorable manner


If this doenst work then simply only fund degree programs that are actually useful in the job market . So no student loans or scholarships for degrees that don’t fit in that criteria

This is extremely authoritarian. It makes sense why you support DeSantis. Lucky for everybody else, America isn't a fascist dystopia (yet) and your policies will not be enacted.

The way academia has been behaving the past Month is a complete mask off moment and yes hopefully every red state governor implements these proposals . Doing so would bring such a needed reckoning and as you can see in this thread , it’s getting support from many liberals lien Leif , Mongoose , S019 , Frodo as well so the fact is academia is losing the support they had from liberals too cause this was yes a mask off moment .

American Academia at the vast majority of state middle tier schools ? Not so much. Most average College students major in business, psychology, nursing, education,

I don't think these are the guys that are worrying about the Middle east, actually, it scares me to think so.

What the hell is happening in America?

https://twitter.com/AnnieSun16/status/1718749046016221548?s=20

Academia is overdue for a reckoning and yes they need to be forced to bend their knee . Some stuff that can be done

1. Cut of all funding to university programs that promote this type of nonsense in the classroom and in research

2. Make it clear that super low Admin-Student ratio is unacceptable and they will lose funding if they don’t reduce their admin staff . You can also ban dei as that would force them to reduce their admin staff too

3. Schools/programs that funds or recognizes organizations should have their funding cut

4. Enforce immigration laws and cancel student visas of international students who went to these pro Hamas protests

5. Obviously expel students who behave in this deplorable manner


If this doenst work then simply only fund degree programs that are actually useful in the job market . So no student loans or scholarships for degrees that don’t fit in that criteria

Your last point needs more nuanced though because many jobs that do pay well, and are in demand, are jobs that require a undergraduate 4 year degree to get into graduate professional program.

And in the last 30 years, those programs have been inflated. For example, just 20 years ago, if you wanted to become a Physical Therapist, you need a Masters in Physical therapy.

Now it's a Doctorate in Physical therapy. Same stuff. Same content. It's just more.... expensive.






Most average college students major in Business, nursing, more vocatinally orientated programs so there's that as well.

Academia is overdue for a reckoning and yes they need to be forced to bend their knee . Some stuff that can be done

1. Cut of all funding to university programs that promote this type of nonsense in the classroom and in research

2. Make it clear that super low Admin-Student ratio is unacceptable and they will lose funding if they don’t reduce their admin staff . You can also ban dei as that would force them to reduce their admin staff too

3. Schools/programs that funds or recognizes organizations should have their funding cut

4. Enforce immigration laws and cancel student visas of international students who went to these pro Hamas protests

5. Obviously expel students who behave in this deplorable manner


If this doenst work then simply only fund degree programs that are actually useful in the job market . So no student loans or scholarships for degrees that don’t fit in that criteria

This is extremely authoritarian. It makes sense why you support DeSantis. Lucky for everybody else, America isn't a fascist dystopia (yet) and your policies will not be enacted.

The irony is that DeSantis was a Humanities major and went to Law school, an ivy league one at that.

[Roll Roons]

Academia is overdue for a reckoning and yes they need to be forced to bend their knee . Some stuff that can be done

1. Cut of all funding to university programs that promote this type of nonsense in the classroom and in research

2. Make it clear that super low Admin-Student ratio is unacceptable and they will lose funding if they don’t reduce their admin staff . You can also ban dei as that would force them to reduce their admin staff too

3. Schools/programs that funds or recognizes organizations should have their funding cut

4. Enforce immigration laws and cancel student visas of international students who went to these pro Hamas protests

5. Obviously expel students who behave in this deplorable manner


If this doenst work then simply only fund degree programs that are actually useful in the job market . So no student loans or scholarships for degrees that don’t fit in that criteria

This is extremely authoritarian. It makes sense why you support DeSantis. Lucky for everybody else, America isn't a fascist dystopia (yet) and your policies will not be enacted.

Yes, OSR is a fascist because he's calling for entirely unnecessary DEI administrators to be cut but it's ok when those administrators coddle students who want to wipe an entire ethnoreligious group off the face of the Earth.

[Devils30]

Academia is overdue for a reckoning and yes they need to be forced to bend their knee . Some stuff that can be done

1. Cut of all funding to university programs that promote this type of nonsense in the classroom and in research

2. Make it clear that super low Admin-Student ratio is unacceptable and they will lose funding if they don’t reduce their admin staff . You can also ban dei as that would force them to reduce their admin staff too

3. Schools/programs that funds or recognizes organizations should have their funding cut

4. Enforce immigration laws and cancel student visas of international students who went to these pro Hamas protests

5. Obviously expel students who behave in this deplorable manner


If this doenst work then simply only fund degree programs that are actually useful in the job market . So no student loans or scholarships for degrees that don’t fit in that criteria

This is extremely authoritarian. It makes sense why you support DeSantis. Lucky for everybody else, America isn't a fascist dystopia (yet) and your policies will not be enacted.

The way academia has been behaving the past Month is a complete mask off moment and yes hopefully every red state governor implements these proposals . Doing so would bring such a needed reckoning and as you can see in this thread , it’s getting support from many liberals like Leif , Mongoose , S019 , Frodo as well so the fact is academia is losing the support they had from liberals too cause this was yes a mask off moment .

When mask off moments happen, it causes reckonings because that yes causes institutions to lose the trust they once had and yes if you are an institution that relies on taxpayer funding then yes that is important.

Yes, the gender studies/critical race theory majors are a complete waste of time and money. They are not as useful as political science (which is common as a path to law or another graduate degree). The DEI bureaucracy also needs to end, no taxpayers should pay for this junk and students don't need to take out additional loans to support it. Expelling those on student visas who support Hamas would be popular with 70% of American's but the Dems Ivy League elite will bitch about it.

[jojoju1998]

Academia is overdue for a reckoning and yes they need to be forced to bend their knee . Some stuff that can be done

1. Cut of all funding to university programs that promote this type of nonsense in the classroom and in research

2. Make it clear that super low Admin-Student ratio is unacceptable and they will lose funding if they don’t reduce their admin staff . You can also ban dei as that would force them to reduce their admin staff too

3. Schools/programs that funds or recognizes organizations should have their funding cut

4. Enforce immigration laws and cancel student visas of international students who went to these pro Hamas protests

5. Obviously expel students who behave in this deplorable manner


If this doenst work then simply only fund degree programs that are actually useful in the job market . So no student loans or scholarships for degrees that don’t fit in that criteria

This is extremely authoritarian. It makes sense why you support DeSantis. Lucky for everybody else, America isn't a fascist dystopia (yet) and your policies will not be enacted.

The way academia has been behaving the past Month is a complete mask off moment and yes hopefully every red state governor implements these proposals . Doing so would bring such a needed reckoning and as you can see in this thread , it’s getting support from many liberals like Leif , Mongoose , S019 , Frodo as well so the fact is academia is losing the support they had from liberals too cause this was yes a mask off moment .

When mask off moments happen, it causes reckonings because that yes causes institutions to lose the trust they once had and yes if you are an institution that relies on taxpayer funding then yes that is important.

Yes, the gender studies/critical race theory majors are a complete waste of time and money. They are not as useful as political science (which is common as a path to law or another graduate degree). The DEI bureaucracy also needs to end, no taxpayers should pay for this junk and students don't need to take out additional loans to support it. Expelling those on student visas who support Hamas would be popular with 70% of American's but the Dems Ivy League elite will bitch about it.

Most Americans major in Business, Nursing, Biology. https://www.niche.com/blog/the-most-popular-college-majors/

Engineering for those who are good in math.

https://www.niche.com/blog/the-most-popular-college-majors/

[Ferguson97]

There need to be reforms in academia, but right-wing authoritarians like OSR should absolutely not be the people leading those reforms. His vision for academia is even worse than the status quo.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Those posts "from" Cornell are actually from a site anyone can post at and apparently is regularly full of trolls. No evidence anyone at Cornell was posting them. Still threats that blatant need to be investigated and the poster held accountable. ("Poster" singular because they all have a very suspiciously similar writing style.)

[Meclazine for Israel]

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Sunday said he stands by the decision to decertify any pro-Palestinian student groups that side with Hamas from state college campuses, arguing that to allow these groups to openly side with "brutal terrorist organizations" is like committing "suicide as a country."

DeSantis, a 2024 Republican presidential candidate, appeared on NBC’s "Meet the Press," saying that the pro-Palestinian solidarity group had also claimed to be part of the Hamas movement.

"This is not cancel culture, this group, they themselves said in the aftermath of the Hamas attack that they don't just stand in solidarity, that they are part of this Hamas movement," he said. "And so, yeah, you have a right to go out and demonstrate, but you can't provide material support to terrorism. They've linked themselves to Hamas, and so we absolutely decertified them."

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/october-29-israel-hamas-war

NBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_7-oz79UUk

[T'Chenka]

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Sunday said he stands by the decision to decertify any pro-Palestinian student groups that side with Hamas from state college campuses, arguing that to allow these groups to openly side with "brutal terrorist organizations" is like committing "suicide as a country."

DeSantis, a 2024 Republican presidential candidate, appeared on NBC’s "Meet the Press," saying that the pro-Palestinian solidarity group had also claimed to be part of the Hamas movement.

"This is not cancel culture, this group, they themselves said in the aftermath of the Hamas attack that they don't just stand in solidarity, that they are part of this Hamas movement," he said. "And so, yeah, you have a right to go out and demonstrate, but you can't provide material support to terrorism. They've linked themselves to Hamas, and so we absolutely decertified them."

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/october-29-israel-hamas-war

NBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_7-oz79UUk

And who is going to be in charge of making sure that pro-Palestinian protestors who are NOT supporting Hamas are not being decertified? We're just supposed to trust Republicans to do this in good faith? I barely trust Democrats to do that.

[Lief 🗽]

It’s very unlikely that we have still have publicly-funded university humanities and social sciences programs within the next decade, even in liberal blue states. At a certain point it becomes impossible to defend spending tax dollars on this stuff. Unfortunately, the professors and admins, by so thoroughly politicizing themselves and prioritizing activism over real scholarship and pedagogy, have left state governments with little choice.
https://twitter.com/omriceren/status/1718947991279505782?s=46&t=o2RmfeV6yYJk...

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Sunday said he stands by the decision to decertify any pro-Palestinian student groups that side with Hamas from state college campuses, arguing that to allow these groups to openly side with "brutal terrorist organizations" is like committing "suicide as a country."

DeSantis, a 2024 Republican presidential candidate, appeared on NBC’s "Meet the Press," saying that the pro-Palestinian solidarity group had also claimed to be part of the Hamas movement.

"This is not cancel culture, this group, they themselves said in the aftermath of the Hamas attack that they don't just stand in solidarity, that they are part of this Hamas movement," he said. "And so, yeah, you have a right to go out and demonstrate, but you can't provide material support to terrorism. They've linked themselves to Hamas, and so we absolutely decertified them."

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/october-29-israel-hamas-war

NBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_7-oz79UUk

Just as a reminder, DeSantis serves as a state governor and seeks the Presidential nomination for a party, the self-named "Republican Party", that officially approved of a violent assault on Congress in the Capitol Building as part of an attempt to install Donald Trump as a dictator after he lost the 2020 election.

Republicans are a party that approves of violent terrorism, so long as they agree with the terrorists' goals. (Just like they're a party that's in favor of mass shootings, except when Republican legislators get shot.)

[Meclazine for Israel]

Jason Aldean

Try That In A Small Regional Southern Texas University Campus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1_RKu-ESCY

[Devils30]

It’s very unlikely that we have still have publicly-funded university humanities and social sciences programs within the next decade, even in liberal blue states. At a certain point it becomes impossible to defend spending tax dollars on this stuff. Unfortunately, the professors and admins, by so thoroughly politicizing themselves and prioritizing activism over real scholarship and pedagogy, have left state governments with little choice.
https://twitter.com/omriceren/status/1718947991279505782?s=46&t=o2RmfeV6yYJk...

I sort of wonder if some state will make moves on this after the elections next week. Most of this stuff is complete junk, no one should be paying the salaries of those professors or giving students any loans to take those classes. A lot of Dems at elite schools underestimate how many moderate Jews, Asians and Hispanics would defect to a post Trump GOP. You see the outlines of it in Youngkin, Kemp, Ciattarelli and Zeldin's coalitions. Against an antisemitic Dem, the GOP would have a real chance in a lot of states it has been completely dead in since 1988.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

These statements from "ethnic studies" departments are of course embarrassing (to say the least) but the larger error is being so unbelievably self-important that you think anyone or anything at a university needs to make a public statement on hot-button current events.

Other than self-promotion and catering to small-but-growing groups of activists, I don't understand what kind of purpose these statements serve.

[WalterWhite]

And this is why STEM will always be superior to humanities

[Roll Roons]

They've IDed and arrested a suspect in the Cornell posts and it's a student:
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1719524338074861811