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Question: Does the crisis in Israel help or hurt Biden?
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« on: October 07, 2023, 02:07:39 PM »

Does the crisis in Israel help or hurt Biden?
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2023, 02:08:44 PM »

It hurts him a little.
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2023, 02:09:02 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2023, 02:13:16 PM by pppolitics »

No effect.

The Israel-Palestine conflict has been going on for so long that it's hardly going to change anyone's mind.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2023, 02:09:42 PM »

It won't matter because Iran is giving weapons To Hamas abd Putin is allies with Assad and Iran they funded Iran during Iran Contra during 80 s Russia
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2023, 04:22:34 PM »

Americans generally don’t vote on foreign policy unless the country is actively involved in a foreign conflict. So no difference.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2023, 04:26:30 PM »

No effect unless Biden sends ground troops. At that point it'll depend whether or not the war is popular with the American people.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2023, 05:39:29 PM »

I can also see the braindead America First crowd criticizing Biden for sending aid...after all, any foreign policy action is seen as betraying America to them.
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2023, 05:56:33 PM »

Zero effect. I'm not even sure it will remain relevant by November 2024.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2023, 06:39:48 PM »

Way too early to judge except insofar as it is clearly another risk to consider. Polls could move in the short-term, but there's a lot going on right now, so everyone will argue over why.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2023, 06:53:14 PM »

I'm going to say no effect but if it goes on for a long time then this could really divide the right. One of the biggest potential rifts among conservatives right now is between the Evangelicals that are very supportive of Israel and the isolationists who want nothing to do with Israel (and this may provoke some outrage here but it's a fact that the latter group includes a lot of people who simply hate Israel and Jews, which makes it more difficult). This also takes attention away from Ukraine which I don't think is hurting Biden much if at all but given the economy, support for Ukraine might be a tougher sell for swing voters so it could help Biden if attention is pulled away from that.
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2023, 07:06:18 PM »

Lets use some data and maps:

https://www.prri.org/spotlight/factoring-the-muslim-vote-into-american-elections/

Most of the muslim vote is concentrated in:

San Fransisco
Detroit
Greater New York City
Greater Washington D.C.

Muslims outnumber Jews in:
Michigan
Illinois
Virginia

Jews outnumber Muslims in:
California
Florida
New York
Nevada
New Jersey
Pennsylvania

So basically Michigan vs Pennsylvania in the electoral college.
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2023, 07:39:32 PM »

It won't matter because Iran is giving weapons To Hamas abd Putin is allies with Assad and Iran they funded Iran during Iran Contra during 80 s Russia
Olawakandi posf, the Soviet Union was Iraq's main weapons supplier before and under Saddam.
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2023, 08:34:48 PM »

Lol this isn't 2000/04 right after 911 with Arafat it's not gonna hurt that much it has no effect
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2023, 11:00:34 PM »

Lets use some data and maps:

https://www.prri.org/spotlight/factoring-the-muslim-vote-into-american-elections/

Most of the muslim vote is concentrated in:

San Fransisco
Detroit
Greater New York City
Greater Washington D.C.

Muslims outnumber Jews in:
Michigan
Illinois
Virginia

Jews outnumber Muslims in:
California
Florida
New York
Nevada
New Jersey
Pennsylvania

So basically Michigan vs Pennsylvania in the electoral college.

I don't think it's fair to assume that American Muslims somehow sympathize with Hamas' terrorist actions. They're probably just as mortified as everyone else. It's a counterproductive incident even if you favor a two-state solution and are critical of Israel.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2023, 12:21:11 AM »

Maybe hurts a little for now, but if it continues to get worse for Israel, I can’t exactly see how that would help Biden’s FP image.
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2023, 12:24:03 AM »

Maybe hurts a little for now, but if it continues to get worse for Israel, I can’t exactly see how that would help Biden’s FP image.


Lol it won't hurt Biden because this isn't 2004vwith Arafar
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2023, 01:31:08 AM »

Hurts a little, but obviously things like are there a recession, is Trump is prison, and how high is inflation matter more.
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2023, 04:01:23 AM »
« Edited: October 08, 2023, 07:33:12 PM by Interlocutor is just not there yet »

Way too early to ask this question. Like, so early I don't know why someone thinks of this within 24 hours of the crisis erupting.
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2023, 05:10:44 AM »

No it's a 303 map
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2023, 08:26:34 AM »

Either “No Effect” or “Hurts a Little”
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2023, 08:32:59 AM »

Just remember Trump has to win Ds not Biden winning Rs it's the blue wall map
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2023, 10:26:31 AM »

No effect, since the election is so far away and doesn't affect the daily lives of Americans.
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2023, 10:31:57 AM »

I can also see the braindead America First crowd criticizing Biden for sending aid...after all, any foreign policy action is seen as betraying America to them.

This, as well as the fact that extreme anti-Israel progressives who supported Biden in the past to stop Trump are already all over social media downplaying the seriousness of 500+ dead in terrorist attacks. I know the situation is complicated, but when hundreds of innocent people die, that’s not a good look.
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2023, 05:04:07 PM »
« Edited: October 08, 2023, 05:26:22 PM by SN2903 »

Most Americans don't care about the middle east or Israel sadly and they should because what is happening is absolutely horrific and this is a global issue/intelligence failure but from a pure political point of view this doesn't matter for the election. The issue is if it raises oil prices , which is likely,  this could move Bidens approval down to the low to mid 30s pretty soon so we're reaching a point where the party may step in and tell him he cannot run again. I believe there are serious conversations happening right now behind the scenes to encourage Biden to drop out. Trump is favored to win at this point (things can change). Anyone else saying otherwise is just not being honest. He really is an awful individual but Biden's mismanaging of the economy/inflation plus giving 140$ billion to Ukraine really will doom the democrats in 2024 in my opinion with independents. Americans vote on the economy and the independent vote will shift to Trump in a flip of 2020.
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2023, 05:28:31 PM »

Most Americans don't care about the middle east or Israel sadly and they should because what is happening is absolutely horrific and this is a global issue/intelligence failure but from a pure political point of view this doesn't matter for the election. The issue is if it raises oil prices , which is likely,  this could move Bidens approval down to the low to mid 30s pretty soon so we're reaching a point where the party may step in and tell him he cannot run again. I believe there are serious conversations happening right now behind the scenes to encourage Biden to drop out. Trump is favored to win at this point (things can change). Anyone else saying otherwise is just not being honest. He really is an awful individual but Biden's mismanaging of the economy/inflation plus giving 140$ billion to Ukraine really will doom the democrats in 2024 in my opinion with independents. Americans vote on the economy and the independent vote will shift to Trump in a flip of 2020.

This isn’t going to raise oil prices, because Israel is pretty disconnected from the energy market.
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